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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:33:06 No.30425297 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30425317 >>30425321 >>30425340 >>30425395 >>30425409 >>30426768 >>30429751 >>30430641 >>30432421

make a pokemon good by giving it 1 move

>leech life

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:33:38 No.30425317 Report

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>>30425297

>not shell smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:33:46 No.30425321 Report

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>>30425297
>togetic used sacred fire!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:34:31 No.30425340 Report

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>>30425297
it doesn't get it?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:35:58 No.30425388 Report

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Dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:36:10 No.30425395 Report

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>>30425340
nope

>>30425297
this is valid for a lot of other bugs too, like pretty much all gen 5 bugs

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:36:41 No.30425409 Report

Quoted By: >>30425589

>>30425297
>Frost Breath
ability: Sniper

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:36:43 No.30425411 Report

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>>30425321
252+ SpA Togetic (No Move) vs. 252 HP / 128 SpD Assault Vest Escavalier: 200-236 (58.1 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:37:45 No.30425436 Report

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>slow bulky physical rock type
>accelerock
Am I playing your little game right OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:37:50 No.30425438 Report

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>Kommo-o is trying to learn Drain Punch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:39:36 No.30425500 Report

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>>30425411
Sacred Fire is a physical move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:40:36 No.30425544 Report

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>>30425500
252+ Atk Togetic Sacred Fire vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Escavalier: 204-244 (59.3 - 70.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:42:02 No.30425589 Report

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>>30425409
>60 special damage move 90 accuracy
>135 after sniper

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:56:24 No.30425993 Report

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>silvally used Z-conversion!

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 01:05:44 No.30426296 Report

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sketch

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 01:19:14 No.30426704 Report

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>Guzzlord used Slack Off
>Guzzlord stopped being useless!

>Silvally used Drain Punch
>Silvally now has Fighting coverage and a way to regain health!

>Lycanroc Midnite used Dynamic Punch
>Lycanroc Midnite has areason to have No Guard now, beyond accurate Stone Edge, which isn't really that exciting since stone edge is its only move that benefits from it

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 01:21:26 No.30426768 Report

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>>30425297
>Drain Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:02:06 No.30427922 Report

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>>30425317
Not with that Abyssmal Speed that's good for Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:15:39 No.30428264 Report

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>>30426768
Needs Mach Punch much more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:43:56 No.30429047 Report

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>Furfrou - Slack off
Having reliable recovery is something Furfrou deserves, as it doesn't really have a way to use its ability and defence

>Umbreon - Parting shot
A slow-ish parting shot from a mon that gains a ton of momentum just from switching in would give umbreon a huge niche in OU

>Oricorio - Quiver Dance
Self Explanatory

>Braviary - Mirror move
Would allow it to boost speed to become a huge threat

>Hawlucha - Close combat/ Superpower
Allowing Hawlucha to activate Unburden with a white herb would be incredible, similar to Minior... Maybe a little overpowered, but I like Hawlucha

>Comfey - Giga Drain
Ideally it would also have grass typing, but more priority damage and kinda almost coverage is nice

>Araquanid - Aqua jet
Obviously

>Bewear - Drain Punch
Kinda makes sense... I know that throwing drain punch on stuff is a little bland, but it would strengthen Bewear's niche

>Steelix - Head Smash
I like the idea of a lot of Rock head pokemon getting Head Smash

That's all off the top of my head

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:47:08 No.30429117 Report

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>>30425544
Okay but your snail is useless for the rest of the match and can't switch in on anything else.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:47:46 No.30429137 Report

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>It's quick claw lets it move first!
>Chansey used final gambit!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:48:46 No.30429153 Report

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>>30425388

Never happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:49:24 No.30429165 Report

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>>30429047
>Furfrou - Slack off
okay.

>Umbreon - Parting shot
Also okay.

>Oricorio - Quiver Dance
Already gets it.

>Braviary - Mirror move
Just use Staraptor.

>Hawlucha - Close combat/ Superpower
Sure but it wants a better Flying move instead.

>Araquanid - Aqua jet
Sure, makes it less of a shitmon.

>Bewear - Drain Punch
k

>Steelix - Head Smash
Also okay but it will literally never use it.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:49:37 No.30429169 Report

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>>30429137
another quick claw one
>Slaking used explosion!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:52:04 No.30429220 Report

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>>30429165
>Araquanid
>Shitmon
I'm sorry, did you forget about water bubble and liquidation?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:52:07 No.30429221 Report

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>Boomburst

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:53:20 No.30429262 Report

Quoted By: >>30429321

>>30429165
>Already gets it.
Is it an egg move? It isn't listed on Serebii

>Sure but it wants a better Flying move instead.
Once you've procced unburden, acrobatics is what you use

>Sure, makes it less of a shitmon.
Probably not, but still gives it some amount of viability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:53:45 No.30429273 Report

Quoted By: >>30429327

>>30429220
Yes but it was popular for like four days then everybody figured out it's still kind of dump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:54:21 No.30429291 Report

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>>30429117
That's the point of giving it leech life

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:54:53 No.30429303 Report

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It doesn't make too much sense, but I'd love Drampa to get Boomburst

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:55:16 No.30429316 Report

Quoted By: >>30431311

Accelrock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:55:24 No.30429321 Report

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>>30429262
>Already gets it.
>Is it an egg move? It isn't listed on Serebii

Ah, apologies, looks like it doesn't. I've seen it so little that I thought it did. got it confused with Calm Mind, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:55:25 No.30429322 Report

Quoted By: >>30429427

>>30429117
So is your Togetic because you're using a fucking physical Togetic. What point are you even trying to make here? Fire bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:55:35 No.30429327 Report

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>>30429273
It's one of the things rn that can survive and actually kill a Specs Psychic Tapu Lele

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:59:35 No.30429427 Report

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>>30429322
>implying togetic/togekiss cares fuck all about the phys/special split when it has a guaranteed burn move

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 02:59:57 No.30429441 Report

Quoted By: >>30429603 >>30430344 >>30431311

why does it have rock head if it doesnt learn recoil moves
fucking head smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:03:02 No.30429511 Report

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>>30429221
That ability was practically made for boomburst.
What was GF thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:06:58 No.30429603 Report

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>>30429441
Take Down man

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:09:01 No.30429650 Report

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>>30429603

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:09:16 No.30429656 Report

Quoted By: >>30429689 >>30431311

>anything with good bulk but no reliable recovery
Slack Off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:10:57 No.30429689 Report

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>>30429656
>slack off steelix
>groudon making AG
>aegislash allowed to recover at all

STOP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:11:50 No.30429718 Report

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>>30426704
>Lycanroc with Dynamic Punch
>tfw it's not actually a thing

It hurts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:11:51 No.30429720 Report

Quoted By: >>30430432 >>30431311 >>30431677

>Silvally
Extreme Speed

>Incineroar
Sucker Punch

>Kommo-o
Close Combat/Drain Punch

>Tapu Fini
Moonlight

>Mudsdale
Slack Off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:13:10 No.30429751 Report

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>>30425297
>Sceptile
Tail Glow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:14:02 No.30429777 Report

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Silvally needs fire blast and earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:38:14 No.30430344 Report

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>>30429441
>doesn't even get double-edge

end my life senpai

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:42:14 No.30430432 Report

Quoted By: >>30432869

>>30429720
>Mudsdale
>Slack Off
NEVER EVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:51:38 No.30430641 Report

Quoted By: >>30430669

>>30425297
> Hydreigon used Nasty Plot!

I miss my boy in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:52:40 No.30430669 Report

Quoted By: >>30431091

>>30430641
Alakazam deserves it more.
Hydreishit belongs in UU.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:58:49 No.30430845 Report

Quoted By: >>30431311

Quiver Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:03:34 No.30430978 Report

Quoted By: >>30431250 >>30431311 >>30431995

Give Shell Smash to Shelgon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:08:16 No.30431091 Report

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>>30430669
Alakazam is already in BL, and it's already gotten a Mega with sky-high speed and Sp. Atk.

Hydreigon has a great typing, a great movepool, a solid ability, and good Sp. Atk. Really, it's fairies, it's awkward speed, and some power creep that hurt it.

It's far from a shit mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:09:30 No.30431122 Report

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Dhelmise - Shift Gear

Mimikyu - Belly Drum/Fake Out

Araquanid - Aqua Jet

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:14:58 No.30431250 Report

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>>30430978
>shell smash salamence

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:17:01 No.30431311 Report

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>>30429316
I can dig that, but I'm not sure it's works thematically.

>>30429441
my dude, yes

>>30429656
>anything with good bulk but no reliable recovery
>Slack Off
that's a bad mentality

>>30429720
I can get behind all of that except slack off on mudsdale. I agree mudsdale would be really good with recovery, but I still can't agree with it.

>>30430845
wat

>>30430978
fucking god no please that's actually bullying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:31:00 No.30431677 Report

Quoted By: >>30432232

>>30429720
GF is very fickle with healing and priority moves. Also please create a special priority move that isn't vacuum wave, thanks GF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:41:07 No.30431946 Report

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>>30429603
>weaker and less accurate than Return, which fucking everything gets
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:42:46 No.30431995 Report

Quoted By: >>30432308

>>30430978
Can we give Shell Smash to Pupitar as well while we're at it? At least SS Tyranitar still dies to Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, Aqua Jet, and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:48:22 No.30432168 Report

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Give Type: Null Recover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:50:12 No.30432232 Report

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>>30431677
>Swift isn't a priority move
This has always baffled me. Even the nip name of "Speed Star" sounds like something that should usually hit first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:52:47 No.30432308 Report

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>>30431995
>At least SS Tyranitar still dies to Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, Aqua Jet, and so on

I guess that seems fair, as long as it doesn't get sucker punch in the future. Thing is, I can see people doing something like a defensive shell smash set with white herb to outcalc certain priority users.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:55:03 No.30432379 Report

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Fiery Dance for Lilligant

Earth Power for Typhlosion

Won't make them good per se, but it'll make them better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:56:52 No.30432421 Report

Quoted By: >>30432482 >>30432594

>>30425297
Silvally
Fucking anything, really. His movepool seems so half-hearted. They threw in the fangs, Dragon Claw, and a couple of decent-damage coverage moves, but nothing decisive.

Seriously, somebody tell me how retarded I am beacuse everything I try to build on this fucker seems "meh".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:59:30 No.30432482 Report

Quoted By: >>30432594

>>30432421
no that seems to be the general opinion on him. most people seem to just go for a mixed sweeper with as much coverage as possible to tree cheese with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:04:40 No.30432594 Report

Quoted By: >>30432706

>>30432421
>>30432482
His movepool has gaps, but you can definitely make a really solid set however you choose to play.

Most success I feel is from a Parting shot set with U-turn with a good Volt Switch user and one or two pokemon who benefit a ton from Parting shot like (no h8) wishiwashi.

I've noticed there's a ton of synergy with Silvally, Tapu Koko & Wishiwashi, as Electric terrain allows Wishiwashi to rest to full on a whim and when elec terrain is down and they poke out wishiwashi to stop schooling, you can come back in off the back of Silvally really comfortably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:10:13 No.30432706 Report

Quoted By: >>30432773 >>30435700 >>30435952

>>30432594
>Tapu Koko
Allowing Totally Not Legendaries into competitive play when the cover legendaries all get universally banned (even if they're garbage outside of their statblocks) is something I'll never understand.

Still, that's not bad advice. I'll look into trying that combo out, or shit similar to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:13:05 No.30432773 Report

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>>30432706
Cover legendaries have huge BSTs. Sublegends have lower BSTs than Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Garchomp, etc.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:13:26 No.30432779 Report

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let's just give every fucking thing priority and recovery why don't we

when everybody's super, yadda yadda yadda

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:16:30 No.30432869 Report

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>>30430432
This is actually such a cute Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:00:05 No.30434941 Report

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If Miltank could use Rapid Spin, she'd probably be used in OU.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:01:11 No.30434957 Report

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Crabhammer

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:02:42 No.30434979 Report

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Icicle Crash

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:51:20 No.30435700 Report

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>>30432706
Kyurem-B is a cover legendary and isn't banned
or at least it wasn't last I checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 08:10:15 No.30435952 Report

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>>30432706
Both Vanilla and Black Kyurem are not banned to Ubers. Fuck, base Kyurem is legal in UU, last I checked.

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