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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:37:09 No.30430309 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30431007 >>30431035 >>30431492 >>30432534 >>30433202 >>30433234 >>30433793 >>30435108 >>30435237 >>30437172 >>30437425 >>30437470 >>30437557

>There are people on /vp/ who don't have a zygarde on their team to battle with through the story.
Why would you do this? Zygarde is in alola for a reason, it's the observer pokemon! It's here to stop the UBs and protect the ecosystem! You have to help Zygarde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:43:04 No.30430455 Report

Quoted By: >>30432415

Because its an ugly fuk like you lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:43:14 No.30430459 Report

Quoted By: >>30430628

I should've, but I waited until Drampa for my Dragon type and it really didn't help at all endgame, and all of my team was slow as molasses. Zydoge would've really helped.

Also, considering that you can convert other Zygardes that aren't made in your game, wouldn't it be possible to get a Power Construct Zygarde as soon as you can make it if someone trades you some?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:50:53 No.30430628 Report

Quoted By: >>30430752 >>30430821

>>30430459
>Also, considering that you can convert other Zygardes that aren't made in your game, wouldn't it be possible to get a Power Construct Zygarde as soon as you can make it if someone trades you some?
Yes. I put a totodile on the GTS after I got Zydoge and got it traded for a zygarde. Broke down the new zydoge into 10 cells and it counted towards my collection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:55:52 No.30430752 Report

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>>30430628
And since the level of the Zygarde depends on how far you are in the game, I wonder if you can get a Power Construct Zygarde at level 30 instead of 50. That'd be pretty nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 03:57:57 No.30430821 Report

Quoted By: >>30431055 >>30431142

>>30430628
What happens if you collect more than 100 cells?
>yfw Gamefreak intended you to transfer over an XY Zygarde for 50 new cells to make permanent Perfect form

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:04:44 No.30431007 Report

Quoted By: >>30431255 >>30432456 >>30432860 >>30433051 >>30435269

>>30430309
I feel like many characters have "signature" pokemon.

Hau has Pikachu
Gladion has Null

I'd argue that Zygarde is that for the player.

1) It's introduced as a mandatory story event with Dexio
2) By the time you can make him you will have way over 10 cells
3) You give Zygarde moves and abilities that no other game had
4) You get it right before Po Town, arguably the turning point for the character for the plot. (goes from hur-dur lets do trials to Oh shit Lusamine is a crazy bitch and the skulls are working for her)
5) Nebby was really Lillie's pokemon, but GF knew people would throw a bitch fit if the player didnt get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:05:48 No.30431035 Report

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>>30430309
fuck zygarde, it's a literal WHO with no relevance to the story

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:06:40 No.30431055 Report

Quoted By: >>30431119

>>30430821
You can make permanent perfect form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:07:53 No.30431081 Report

Quoted By: >>30432684

Poor Zygarde. It seemed out of place and only vaguely connected with the box legendaries in X and Y, and while it's supposed purpose, defending the ecosystem, makes more sense in Sun and Moon, he's hardly utilized and is like some weird extra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:09:27 No.30431119 Report

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>>30431055
No, the most you can make is 50% power construct

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:09:50 No.30431129 Report

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bout to use it atm, got an adamant one. Though it will be short lived because as soon as I get dhelmise from the next island its axed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:10:20 No.30431142 Report

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>>30430821
It becomes Beyond Complete Zygarde, where it takes the form of a handgun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:15:10 No.30431255 Report

Quoted By: >>30431380 >>30432860

>>30431007
I throw a bitch fit because Lillie didn't kept it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:19:13 No.30431380 Report

Quoted By: >>30432860

>>30431255
I gave the Poké Doll Lillie gives you to Nebby to hold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:24:03 No.30431492 Report

Quoted By: >>30431526 >>30432184 >>30432197 >>30433236

>>30430309
> I'm well beyond completing the post game and I still haven't assembled even 10% Zygarde
> Judge me all you want, Zygarde is a shitmon, design wise. Zygardoge is disgusting. Zygardetron is even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:25:35 No.30431526 Report

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>>30431492
>I'll judge you for that blatant misuse of memearrows, you dreg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:42:19 No.30431980 Report

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I'm actuallly considering this, I don't have a sixth pokemon for my team and my efforts with the dragon mon of the gen have fallen flat, I tried a modest one but it's attack was still superior to it's special attack despite it's signature move being a special attack and I tried one where it's defense was high but it came at the cost of it's nerfed attack.

What nature is best for Zygarde so if I can at least have something not crap in my sixth Slot? I can't fight the elite four with just Neppy, my starter and my johto starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:46:49 No.30432130 Report

Quoted By: >>30432393

I refused to use any legendaries until post game, that's why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:47:12 No.30432141 Report

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I literally couldn't remember where Dexio said to go and I never stumbled across the lab (because I thought it on the map was Acerola's place). I really wanted a zygardogoo too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:48:43 No.30432184 Report

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>>30431492
>>30431492
Learn what greentexting is for.
Other than that, you're completely correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:49:00 No.30432197 Report

Quoted By: >>30432557

>>30431492
Agreed, but Zygarde core is adorable. Oh WOOPS you can't fucking use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:50:20 No.30432236 Report

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The legendary with no home. He was an outsider in X and Y and he is an outside in Sun and Moon. So sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:55:40 No.30432393 Report

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>>30432130
autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:56:39 No.30432415 Report

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>>30430455
dam

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:58:11 No.30432456 Report

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>>30431007
>more zycuck headcanon
Goddam

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:02:12 No.30432534 Report

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>>30430309
the reason is 'his game was never made, so let's port the idea into the new game and ignore him otherwise.

for fuck's sake his 100% form has a blue tipped arm and a red tipped arm, the X/Y legends had red and blue, Bw2 had the fused forms, it's obvious the original idea was that stupid mech was a fusion of all 3's power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:02:57 No.30432557 Report

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>>30432197
>wanting to use something with a BST of 6

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:09:08 No.30432684 Report

Quoted By: >>30432880 >>30432965 >>30435150

>>30431081
No legendary trio member was ever cucked this hard, from a low ass BST to basically being a gift in a region it doesn't belong in

Rayquaza always gets special benefits, Giratina and Kyurem-White are pretty well off as well. Kyurem-Black WAS the most cucked until Zygarde and its underwhelming Perfect form

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:12:04 No.30432747 Report

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Didn't use Zygarde during the main game, but since I'm focusing on filling out my Dex, I'm using it as a "babysitter" of sorts, since it's strong enough to defeat high-level trainers by itself while passing down the EXP to unevolved mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:16:13 No.30432860 Report

Quoted By: >>30433034

>>30431007
>>30431255
>>30431380
You get another Cosmog postgame, just let Lillie keep hers, and yours evolves into NOT the opposite Legendary, but the same as Lillie's.

Why? Because
> m-muh version exclusives

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:17:00 No.30432880 Report

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>>30432684
>an uber mon is more cucked than an OU mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:20:40 No.30432965 Report

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>>30432684
>underwhelming Perfect form
what

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:23:31 No.30433034 Report

Quoted By: >>30433110 >>30433351

>>30432860
You can let Lillie keep Nebby? How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:23:58 No.30433051 Report

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>>30431007
that's not a mandatory story event that's a mandatory pass off to vaguely justify him existing

"yeah hey your pretty tough, go grab a bunch fo these glowing spots, it does something eventually, whatever see you in ten routes."

they should have just had us get Nebby's 'sibling' who shows up trying to protect Nebby and Lillie, and let Lillie's nebby evolve into the opposite version legend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:26:06 No.30433097 Report

Quoted By: >>30433357

I have 90/100 and I don't even know how to make him. Please help

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:26:41 No.30433110 Report

Quoted By: >>30433955

>>30433034
You can't Neppy is a big mon now that wants to go on adventures, fight strong opponents and see the world and Lillie cannot give it that. If you're a guy she tells Nebby that the player is their father now, if you're a girl, she tells Nebby that player is her mommy now. Lillie basically gave her poke-child up for adoption once she realized she realized they out grew her. It's a fitting end to her story when you compare her to her mother.

So remember,anons. That big ass lion or bat looks at you like a child would to a parent so don't go trading them away or locking them up in box ville that's just messed up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:30:55 No.30433202 Report

Quoted By: >>30433350

>>30430309
I will when I restart in January. Don't want to mess its EVs up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:32:53 No.30433234 Report

Quoted By: >>30433341 >>30433377

>>30430309
Two reasons. I don't want to use legendaries as a self-induced challenge. And I didn't know if the first nature you get from a Zygarde you form is its nature forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:32:57 No.30433236 Report

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>>30431492
Who are you quoting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:37:07 No.30433341 Report

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>>30433234
it isn't, everything you assemble him it reroll's him, you can just keep breaking him apart and rerolling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:37:22 No.30433350 Report

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>>30433202
Why? You can just create them and break them down as much as you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:37:22 No.30433351 Report

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>>30433034
Sadly, no. I wasn't clear, I was just proposing something GF could have done instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:37:33 No.30433357 Report

Quoted By: >>30433562 >>30437505

>>30433097
Go to lab, touch stone, you'll automatically get it likely a 50 percent of it's strength if you've been collecting the pieces after wayward duo throw their work on you and fuck off to the hotel to screw each other's brains out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:38:24 No.30433377 Report

Quoted By: >>30433448

>>30433234
>I don't want to use legendaries as a self-induced challenge
Have you seen 10%'s stats? That is not a legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:41:36 No.30433448 Report

Quoted By: >>30433494

>>30433377
it's still a form of a legendary, just not one stat wise. not like you'd be hurting for interesting or 'new' ground type's by the time you can even make 10% anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:43:40 No.30433494 Report

Quoted By: >>30433620

>>30433448
oh, so you're just autistic. my bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:44:39 No.30433517 Report

Quoted By: >>30433609

for a good part of the game I had no idea what the fuck zygarde cells/cubes were

I still don't have a good grasp of it

apparently it's something from X/Y? I didn't play those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:46:29 No.30433562 Report

Quoted By: >>30433649 >>30433666

>>30433357
I'm even more confused. I tried assembling but it asks me to pick a pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:48:54 No.30433609 Report

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>>30433517
Zygarde was the third member of the legendary trio in X and Y, being the only one not to get on a box. Like Rayquaza before Emerald. In X and Y you just go through a cave and find him and catch him, he's just sitting there and has virtually no story associated with him.

In X and Y he was a snake, they brought him back for Sun and Moon but he's broken up into 100 cells across Alola. The snake form from X and Y is his 50% form now, what you can make at the lab on route 16 when you have 50 cells. You can make the 10% dog form with 10 cells, and you can make a Zygarde with the Power Construct ability, which lets it assume 100% form in battle, when you have all 100 cells. The Power Construct Zygarde can change its base-form between 10% and 50% at will.

10% form, 100% form, the Power Construct ability, Zygarde Cells and having to find them, and the Zygarde Cube you collect them in, are all made up for this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:49:34 No.30433620 Report

Quoted By: >>30437387

>>30433494
No i'd just rather use the damn horse i caught way earlier.

he's a leftover gimmick from a never made game shoved into the game that did get made.

and all his forms look stupid so who care's if he's good or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:51:00 No.30433649 Report

Quoted By: >>30434277

>>30433562
It gives you two options, and another two options that explain what the first two options are. The first one is to append cells onto a Zygarde you already have. It even says, "please select Zygade", not to just select any Pokemon, so you can upgrade a 10% to 50% or a 50% to complete. The second option is to make one from scratch, which is what you have to do the first time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:51:39 No.30433666 Report

Quoted By: >>30434277

>>30433562
Do you want to create it's 10 percent form, it's 50 percent form or just go full perfection,anon? It doesn't really matter in this game zygarde is a jigsaw puzzle that you can deconstruction and reconstruct as many times as you want, even after you officially add it to your party and battle with it for a few minutes. I honestly feel like the thing was being built up as going up against either Guzzlord, the strongest of the ultra beasts or against Necrozama, level 75 being that's justl ike Nebby/Cosmog.

God, at least Zygarde got a map model in xy, Necrozama is a damn generic wild encounter in the clearing on the hill top. You could go from a rockruff to that thing and be completely surprised if you didn't pay attention to Looker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:56:19 No.30433793 Report

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>>30430309
>tfw I had to use zygarde because I needed the electric immunity and dragon resistances
Its not like I wanted it originally, but I've grown a soft spot for the dragon alien pupper

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:59:29 No.30433856 Report

Quoted By: >>30433878 >>30433889

>Core enforcer is a SPECIAL ATTACK.
They legitimately didn't want Zygarde to be good at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:00:27 No.30433878 Report

Quoted By: >>30433950

>>30433856
Thousand Arrows is still fantastic. Complete Zygarde is very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:01:15 No.30433889 Report

Quoted By: >>30433910

>>30433856
zygarde was banned to ubers the day OU came out you shitter

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:01:18 No.30433892 Report

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I'm not a huge fan of the specific Pokemon, but I absolutely adore the idea of having a little science lab devoted to assembling and customizing your Pokemon. Really makes me feel like some mad scientist with too much power for their own good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:02:18 No.30433910 Report

Quoted By: >>30437141 >>30437315 >>30437487

>>30433889
and it's shit there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:03:49 No.30433949 Report

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I already made the Power Construct Zygarde, but if I can get some dumb kids to trade me their Zygardes, would I be able to separate them into more cells?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:03:55 No.30433950 Report

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>>30433878
I always run Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves. Hit with arrows, it becomes grounded, gets shit on by waves.
Really fun combo.
Too bad core enforcer is so useless when it looks so cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:04:11 No.30433955 Report

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>>30433110
And right after you beat the E4 Lillie decides to gon on an adventure, fight strong opponents, and see the world. She fostered Cosmog for most likely months of time and the PC just comes and cucks it from her after a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:06:01 No.30433996 Report

Quoted By: >>30434044

Zygarde is ass and giving him 80 trillion forms won't make him less ass.

Bro doesn't even belong in the game. He's just a forced meme like Lucario

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:08:30 No.30434044 Report

Quoted By: >>30434086

>>30433996
Lucario was forced marketing, Zygarde is leftovers they didn't want to throw out. Not really the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:10:46 No.30434086 Report

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>>30434044
This. Lucario literally forces itself on your team, and forces itself to be your 'first' mega evolution.

Zygarde you battle one person, they give you a box and then ten routes later if you want, you can make him if you grabbed enough shiny spots or ignore the thing forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:23:00 No.30434277 Report

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>>30433649
>>30433666
Thank you for attempting to explain, but I'm missing a key bit of information here. Both options want me to select a Zygarde that I don't have? I am at 96/100.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:12:16 No.30435108 Report

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>>30430309
if the perfect forme wasnt a gimmick i'd use it more

id be better for the perfect form to keep aura break or just get an actual helpful ability that will negate its counterparts abilities and boost itself much like mega fug's delta stream

and it being a permanent form rather than a zen mode gimmick with a slight health regain would be better than what was forced into SM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:16:12 No.30435150 Report

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>>30432684
its underwhelming due to it being a zen mode gimmick, though it is good due to certain moves such as thousand arrows, coil, d-dance etc

it would just be more helpful for the complete forme to be permanent and either retain aura break or gain something else like mega rayquaza's delta stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:20:56 No.30435237 Report

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>>30430309
>Have Zygarde
>Nobody mentions it in the slightest because it is an optional side quest
Why the fuck to games do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:22:40 No.30435269 Report

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>>30431007
Also
>50% Zygarde, the ol' snake we know and love, is available JUST before the Ultra Wormhole opens, assuming no traded cells.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 08:20:20 No.30436049 Report

Quoted By: >>30436062 >>30436849

>lost 50% Zygarde in my Nuzlocke
>had to replace it with a useless Gastrodon who suddenly decided to kick ass during the Elite Four

Could have been worse I guess. Even at 50%, Zygarde didn't feel that powerful or good, mostly because Alola traniers are so beefed up statwise compared to previous regions anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 08:21:26 No.30436062 Report

Quoted By: >>30437193

>>30436049
So... is it breaking the rules to build another one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 09:31:08 No.30436849 Report

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>>30436049
Such a shame that the 100% form isn't permanent, it certainly would be different if it was and either kept Aura Break or some type of ability that nullified fairy/dark types' moves instead of power construct that does nothing for it until it has taken 50% or more damage to its health when it could of had something more beneficial for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 09:56:50 No.30437141 Report

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>>30433910
are you retarded, it's a complete stop to primal groudon. That alone is A+ rank material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 09:59:37 No.30437172 Report

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>>30430309
Maybe they want to properly EV Train it for competitive? You can only have one 'garde after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:01:15 No.30437193 Report

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>>30436062

Yeah, because only one encounter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:13:48 No.30437315 Report

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>>30433910
So are Kyurem W, Palkia, Zekrom and a bunch of other legends.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:22:02 No.30437387 Report

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>>30433620
The only one who looks stupid here is you with your shit opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:25:16 No.30437425 Report

Quoted By: >>30437545

>>30430309
When do you get Zydoge? I collected enough cells for 10% and Sina told me to go see hee but I can't find her anywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:25:23 No.30437428 Report

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I hope they never do shit like this again finding all of these is a pain in the ass I wish I didn't collect them throughout the story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:29:47 No.30437470 Report

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>>30430309
I already had a ground type on my team (Mudsdale) and planned for a dragon type at the time (Kommo-o).
>inb4 "avoiding having two of the same type on your team is autistic"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:32:00 No.30437487 Report

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>>30433910
You haven't even played this meta, have you ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:33:36 No.30437505 Report

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>>30433357
Man, that reminds me, there really needs to be more Sina hentai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:38:37 No.30437545 Report

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>>30437425
On route 16

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 10:40:01 No.30437557 Report

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>>30430309
can i take zygardes from the GTS and convert them into cells?

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