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Nerfs and buffs in Gen 7

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:10:45 No.30431153 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30431203 >>30431246 >>30431279 >>30431425 >>30431462 >>30431994 >>30432173 >>30432348 >>30432436 >>30433994

>mfw Gengar becomes UU and Pelipper becomes OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:12:34 No.30431203 Report

Quoted By: >>30432217

>>30431153
>uninspired design drops, while best water bird rises
nothign wrong with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:12:52 No.30431208 Report

Quoted By: >>30431233 >>30431240 >>30431346 >>30431702 >>30435801

I'm curious to see what the dominant Gigalith set will be and where he ends up.
I figure Sand is far too strong for NU, but there's no goddamn way he's getting into UU/OU with Hippo and T-Tar being better than him up there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:14:11 No.30431233 Report

Quoted By: >>30431321 >>30431324

>>30431208
He's the only one with sturdy. Suicide SR niche

And iirc weather abilities are relegated to only OU or high, here's to hoping they change that sometime soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:14:29 No.30431240 Report

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>>30431208
Hippo and Tyrant are OU, so it could end up in UU.
Then again, it has a shit movepool and shit typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:14:46 No.30431246 Report

Quoted By: >>30431342 >>30431554

>>30431153
I don't think losing levitate hurts Gengar THAT much

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:15:55 No.30431279 Report

Quoted By: >>30432660

>>30431153
>people have trouble dealing with mega Gengar
>address this by nerfing normal Gengar
Nailed it guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:17:17 No.30431321 Report

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>>30431233
>i wonder where will sand stream take gigalith...
>HE CAN SEPARATE HIMSELF FROM OTHER SETTERS WITH STURDY!!!1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:17:23 No.30431324 Report

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>>30431233
>He's the only one with sturdy
Sand Stream >>> Sturdy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:17:58 No.30431342 Report

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>>30431246
It can no longer switch in on the scarfed variant of the most used Pokemon of ORAS OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:18:04 No.30431346 Report

Quoted By: >>30431519

>>30431208
He's the middleman of Tyranitar and Hippowdon

Gigalith has better attack and def then Tyranitar
But people really only use tyranitar for pursuit traping or DD mega

Hippo is the main defensive one

Gigalithe probably better suited for doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:21:18 No.30431425 Report

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>>30431153
Dodrio with Jump Kick is interesting. It doesn't hit as hard as Staraptor, but it's faster and gets Swords Dance. Might do okay in UU on the off chance it survives long enough to set up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:22:50 No.30431462 Report

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>>30431153
>mfw the apprentice guy is the president and a mongoose pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:25:17 No.30431519 Report

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>>30431346
>But people really only use tyranitar for pursuit traping or DD mega

t. sub 1600 elo shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:25:24 No.30431522 Report

Quoted By: >>30431564 >>30431594

>pelipper becomes OU

explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:26:30 No.30431554 Report

Quoted By: >>30432441 >>30435709

>>30431246
Everything is running EQ now to deal with Toxapex, Aegislash, and to a lesser extent Togedemaru as well as things like Salazzle and Alolan Marowak. M-Metagross is also one of the best Megas right now, and it lost access to Ice Punch, so EQ is the best coverage move to run on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:26:37 No.30431556 Report

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>>30431462
We are in the era where memes are transcending into different mediums and reality

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:26:51 No.30431564 Report

Quoted By: >>30431607

>>30431522
Rain setter with Hurricane, Roost, and slow U-Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:27:47 No.30431594 Report

Quoted By: >>30431607

>>30431522
It now gets Drizzle as its second ability. Not even its hidden ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:28:23 No.30431607 Report

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>>30431594
>>30431564
oh fug

never did I think that faggot seagul harassing me in the sea of gen 3 would ever be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:31:50 No.30431702 Report

Quoted By: >>30431787

>>30431208
Ttar is OU for life. Hippo is borderline. It'll bounce between OU and UU like always. Whenever it drops to UU, Gigalith will drop to RU. Whenever it becomes OU, Gigalith will rise to UU.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:33:56 No.30431757 Report

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i really hope based Pellicanbro gets more love this gen, he deserves it after being a literal joke for all these years
fuck rocks though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:34:53 No.30431787 Report

Quoted By: >>30431831

>>30431702
When was Hippo UU or BL?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:36:34 No.30431831 Report

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>>30431787
The first half of every gen. It takes several bans for it to rise up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:37:07 No.30431844 Report

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>mfw GF killed Gengar of all things just to make Mimikyu worth using
How much you want to bet this'll get retconned in next year's "Pokémon Cloud?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:42:45 No.30431994 Report

Quoted By: >>30432055 >>30432095 >>30432147

>>30431153
>Implying Gengar will drop even though it can now benefit from the new terrain meta while easily killing all of the terrain setters as well

>being this much of a clueless casual

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:44:52 No.30432055 Report

Quoted By: >>30432270

>>30431994
How does it benefit from the new Terrain Meta? I haven't had much of a chance to mess around with Gen 7, unfortunately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:45:52 No.30432095 Report

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>>30431994
1st stage: Denial

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:47:37 No.30432147 Report

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>>30431994
>Diglett used EQ
>Gengar fainted

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:48:27 No.30432173 Report

Quoted By: >>30432196 >>30432267

>>30431153
>Aguav/Figy/Iapapa/Mago/Wiki pinch berries all got buffed to do 50%HP depending on your Nature

WHY is no one talking about this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:49:01 No.30432196 Report

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>>30432173
Sitrus Berry on suicide watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:49:41 No.30432217 Report

Quoted By: >>30432264

>>30431203
your taste is wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:51:21 No.30432264 Report

Quoted By: >>30432463

>>30432217
>fat purple blob with a face

It's literally Clefable with less details and even less thought put into its design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:51:24 No.30432267 Report

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>>30432173
Gluttony will see some more use to better use those berries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:51:30 No.30432270 Report

Quoted By: >>30432580 >>30432687

>>30432055
Because it no longer counts as flying, so it gets psychic terrain's priority immunity and grass terrains leftovers boost, so its immune to sucker punch and its substitute set will see use on gimmick teams again

>>30432147
>switching Gengar into any attack
>being this bad at the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:53:45 No.30432348 Report

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>>30431153
>Gengar UU
>With the Tapus of healthy meta running amok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:54:04 No.30432357 Report

Quoted By: >>30432476 >>30432511

so does gengar from XY and ORAS lose its ability when transferred over?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:57:24 No.30432436 Report

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>>30431153
Have they given a reason why they made Gengar trash now? It makes no sense. Is game freak just retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:57:40 No.30432441 Report

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>>30431554

aegislash was banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:58:25 No.30432463 Report

Quoted By: >>30432517

>>30432264
better than pelipper
it looks like a toilet with shitty wings

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:59:05 No.30432476 Report

Quoted By: >>30432484

>>30432357
Yeah, it simply can't have Levitate as its ability anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 04:59:32 No.30432484 Report

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>>30432476
thats gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:00:52 No.30432511 Report

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>>30432357
Its ability is just changed to Cursed Body when it is transferred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:01:19 No.30432517 Report

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>>30432463
toilet > blob

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:03:47 No.30432577 Report

Quoted By: >>30432721 >>30432738

Does Arcanine become BL or OU because of Burn Up?

Do Moltres or Typhlosion get any more play at all because of it? I personally doubt Typhlosion goes anywhere because Burn Up doesn't really improve or change its niche of spamming Eruption with a scarf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:03:55 No.30432580 Report

Quoted By: >>30432648

>>30432270
>implying it can switch in at all now
Sticky Web says hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:07:04 No.30432648 Report

Quoted By: >>30432777

>>30432580
>Sticky Web
>good distribution
>choose one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:07:47 No.30432660 Report

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>>30431279
Sad!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:09:17 No.30432687 Report

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>>30432270
Oooh, that sounds really cool. Thanks Anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:11:03 No.30432721 Report

Quoted By: >>30432757 >>30432926 >>30435677

>>30432577
Burn Up is terrible. However you think it works, it doesn't work that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:11:48 No.30432738 Report

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>>30432577
No, because no one runs offensive arcanine

Only moltres could use it to avoid 4x rock weakness but even then....

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:12:27 No.30432757 Report

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>>30432721
Please elaborate, I'm curious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:13:18 No.30432777 Report

Quoted By: >>30433029 >>30433037

>>30432648
>implying Smeargle isn't one of the most common suicide leads

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:18:58 No.30432926 Report

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>>30432721
Burn Up is great, what are you on about? Unless you're referring to offensive sets, in which case I'd have to agree. For defensive sets, however, it's fantastic, especially on Arcanine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:23:24 No.30433029 Report

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>>30432777
>suicide leads
shout out to gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:23:40 No.30433037 Report

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>>30432777
>implying suicide leads are worth using when most teams run Defog

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 05:36:21 No.30433326 Report

Quoted By: >>30434636

They could have at least given it Sludge Wave as a level-up move or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:06:00 No.30433994 Report

Quoted By: >>30434592

>>30431153
Is special Water Shuriken for Accelgor going to make a difference?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:40:54 No.30434592 Report

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>>30433994
Will probably see a lot more usage(but certainly not UU/OU level) as any Special Priority paired with even remotely mediocre Special Attack like Accelgor's is always a godsend, it's just mostly squandered on shit like Machamp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 06:43:11 No.30434636 Report

Quoted By: >>30434993 >>30435016

>>30433326
Do 5 BP make that much of a difference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:03:54 No.30434993 Report

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>>30434636
I haven't run any calculations or anything, but it does make a difference especially after chip damage from things like Stealth Rock.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:05:31 No.30435016 Report

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>>30434636
With the raise of vgcucks around the corner Gengar loses Levitate & Icy Wind (for now) BUT gains the minor utility of eating Toxic Spikes. Plus it's always appreciated the ability to hit multiple targets, especially if your partner is Steel or has Telepathy.

And with Bulletproof Kommo-o running around it won't be able to come in scott free anymore, but then again you could just Gleam it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:49:40 No.30435677 Report

Quoted By: >>30435694

>>30432721
*In Drumpf's voice*
Wrong!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:50:50 No.30435694 Report

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>>30435677
>Drumpf's
COOL JOHN OLIVER REFERENCE DUDE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:51:53 No.30435709 Report

Quoted By: >>30435775

>>30431554
aegislash is banned and marowak is only useful until pheromosa is banned. EQ will drop again as heatran is the best answer to steel types and people would rather take neutral choices for more coverage than EQ/earth power based teams to deal with tran. same will happen with toxapex

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:56:39 No.30435775 Report

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>>30435709
>marowak is only useful until pheromosa is banned
bruh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 07:58:52 No.30435801 Report

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>>30431208
Hippo also isn't rock type

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