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!IMYSknK/Jg Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:12:24 No.30442287 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30442470 >>30442781 >>30442847

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ToTT : What do you think should be banned once pheromosa is gone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:21:11 No.30442436 Report

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first for remove phero from this fucking tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:23:06 No.30442470 Report

Quoted By: >>30442524

>>30442287
fucking nothing get out smogon fag let the meta play itself
why are people so ban happy ffs
PS I do agree phero needs a ban rn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:25:15 No.30442508 Report

Quoted By: >>30442581

MOVE ASIDE, PEASANTS. Best competetive player coming through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:26:23 No.30442524 Report

Quoted By: >>30442546

>>30442470
>why are people so ban happy
Because we enjoy playing the game when it is at least closed to balanced.
Genesect needs to go Imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:27:38 No.30442546 Report

Quoted By: >>30442566

>>30442524
Yes except that nothing but Pheromosa is currently unbalanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:28:14 No.30442566 Report

Quoted By: >>30442595

>>30442546
If that were the case then nothing will be banned, but not everyone agrees with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:29:10 No.30442581 Report

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>>30442508
>tfw verlis paid game freak to add lycanroc-midnight to the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:29:38 No.30442595 Report

Quoted By: >>30442743 >>30443052

>>30442566
Luckily for all of us the OU council wont rest until stall is viable again.
Use as much as you can of Lando-i, Xurk, Hoopa etc while you still can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:37:34 No.30442743 Report

Quoted By: >>30442778

>>30442595
I doubt lando or xurk are going atm
Gene and hoopa though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:39:17 No.30442778 Report

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>>30442743
They will. Maybe not now, but they will

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:39:32 No.30442781 Report

Quoted By: >>30442833

>>30442287
Why did they ban Aegislash and leave Pheromosa? I thought the general consensus was banning them both at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:42:11 No.30442833 Report

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>>30442781
Aegis needed to go asap, phero is Marginally less broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:42:53 No.30442847 Report

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>>30442287
about time pheromosa is fucking banned. as for after that, I don't think anything is obviously as bad for the tier, so probably no bans without tests besides perhaps gene. as for what I think SHOULD be banned? maybe lando and maybe gren with time. well see narmean

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:49:52 No.30442999 Report

Quoted By: >>30443052 >>30443249

What nature is ideal for z-conversion porygon-z?

Ran calcs against special walls and modest doesn't help much, so thinking timid. Not sure if modest would allow some 1hko's that ordinarily wouldn't happen, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 16:51:55 No.30443052 Report

Quoted By: >>30447101

>>30442999
Timid so you're not outsped by literally any scarfer

>>30442595
that's incorrect, the current council is notable for being composed of stall-haters

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:02:21 No.30443249 Report

Quoted By: >>30443305

>>30442999
Timid always unless you plan on passing speed to it. What type you plan on using?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:05:42 No.30443305 Report

Quoted By: >>30443475

>>30443249
just standard electric

!IMYSknK/Jg

!IMYSknK/Jg Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:12:51 No.30443444 Report

Quoted By: >>30443469

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!IMYSknK/Jg

!IMYSknK/Jg Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:14:08 No.30443469 Report

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>>30443444
Ask a mod to voice you*
Http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/tpc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:14:26 No.30443475 Report

Quoted By: >>30443574

>>30443305
Ah, sounds fine. I was thinking of going psychic for psyshock, terrain, and priority immunity. Just need an 6IV Ditto or lots of prayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:19:19 No.30443574 Report

Quoted By: >>30443773

>>30443475
that actually sounds pretty great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:27:33 No.30443773 Report

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>>30443574
I built a team with it

Porygon-Z @ Normalium Z
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
- Conversion
- Recover
- Thunderbolt

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 232 HP / 172 Def / 88 SpD / 16 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Blast
- Soft-Boiled

Tapu Lele @ Terrain Extender
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 116 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Swords Dance
- Roost

Tapu Fini @ Leftovers
Ability: Misty Surge
EVs: 224 HP / 184 Def / 72 SpD / 28 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Defog
- Moonblast
- Taunt

Marowak-Alola @ Leftovers
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpD / 16 Spe
Careful Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Bone
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:28:54 No.30443802 Report

Quoted By: >>30443814

I just started trying showdown out and can't stop playing random battles. How is this not the best?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:29:35 No.30443814 Report

Quoted By: >>30443936

>>30443802
Building with your own gimmicks and winning is more fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:34:55 No.30443936 Report

Quoted By: >>30443994

>>30443814
But you don't build with your own gimmicks, you ape other people's ideas and run a variation of a handful of teams.

At least this way you have to try and adapt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:37:30 No.30443994 Report

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>>30443936
Speak for yourself. I only use my own teams and try to be as innovative as possible though I obviously don't count for everyone

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:42:34 No.30444100 Report

Quoted By: >>30444192 >>30444988 >>30445170

For golisopod would you guys say leech life or liquidation is better? Thinking leech life as it restores hp and means golisopod isn't walled by other water types but wanted advice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 17:47:07 No.30444192 Report

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>>30444100
Liquid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:21:34 No.30444988 Report

Quoted By: >>30446047

>>30444100
it's trash and you'd be better off without it if you ask me but if you really want to it probably depends on your team comp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:28:18 No.30445120 Report

Quoted By: >>30446047

Is anyone else playing LC? Everyone is saying cutiefly is broken, but I personally think it's overrated. Like it's definitely good and all, but it's not broken.

Other than that, what else have you've been having fun with? I've been having fun with z-splash buneary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:30:48 No.30445170 Report

Quoted By: >>30446047

>>30444100
You should be using both desu. Use first impression, leech life, aqua jet, and liquidation. Slap an assault vest on it or something. I mean it's pretty shit, so it doesn't really matter what you do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:43:30 No.30445453 Report

Quoted By: >>30445502

I'm running a mono Poison team. Anything I should add/remove/fix? Keep in mind that I don't have Mega Beedrill because this is something I'm going to use in game once Bank comes out

Cyanide (Nidoking) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Wave

Hemlock (Amoonguss) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spore
- Stun Spore
- Giga Drain
- Foul Play

Sulfur (Salazzle) @ Life Orb
Ability: Corrosion
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Sludge Wave
- Fire Blast
- Toxic

Polonium (Crobat) @ Choice Band
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Cross Poison
- Defog

Saponin (Toxapex) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Haze
- Recover
- Toxic
- Scald

Ricin (Gengar) @ Life Orb
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Destiny Bond
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Wave
- Focus Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:44:46 No.30445492 Report

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Adamant Solgaleo, what do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:45:11 No.30445502 Report

Quoted By:

>>30445453
>no bulky eviolite golbat with nasty plot
kys now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:46:41 No.30445553 Report

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Hentai (Nihilego) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic Spikes
- Sludge Wave
- Power Gem

Chizzum (Leavanny) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Sticky Web
- Poison Jab
- Leaf Blade
- Swords Dance

Styling (Bruxish) @ Life Orb
Ability: Strong Jaw
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Crunch
- Psychic Fangs
- Swords Dance

Xurkitree @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Calm Mind
- Energy Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Loud Mouth (Pelipper) (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Hurricane
- U-turn
- Ice Beam

Gyallic-Ho (Magnezone) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 1 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Flash Cannon
- Thunderbolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 19:09:56 No.30446047 Report

Quoted By: >>30446809 >>30446906 >>30447214

>>30444988
>>30445170
Golisopod is really that bad? I know it wasn't OU but I could see UU at least.
>>30445120
Cutiefly definitely is going to be relevant in LC. As I think about it now not much comes to mind in terms of new threats, mareanie probably with it being baby toxapex.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 19:12:24 No.30446120 Report

Quoted By: >>30446878

What are the general thoughts on this guy?

I've been running this.
Dhelmise @ Assault Vest
252 Atk / 252 Def
Brave Nature
-Power Whip
-Shadow Claw
-Anchor Shot
-Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 19:39:48 No.30446809 Report

Quoted By:

>>30446047
everything about it is pretty good except that ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 19:43:08 No.30446878 Report

Quoted By:

>>30446120
what meta is this in?
why are you brave nature?
why are you max def and not max hp?
if this is singles why don't you have rapid spin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 19:44:10 No.30446906 Report

Quoted By: >>30447214

>>30446047
Golisopod being bad is a meme or not being a good fit for the player. It's high tier UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 19:52:33 No.30447101 Report

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>>30443052
You mean the same council that unanimously voted to ban every wallbreaker that got kicked to Ubers in Gen 6, as well as unanimously voting to try and keep Sab legal in ORAS's last suspect test.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 19:57:32 No.30447214 Report

Quoted By: >>30449362

>>30446047
>>30446906
Golisopod's ability is far too crippling on such a mediocre Pokemon for Golisopod for it to be UU. Reminder that a Pokemon that is initially much more powerful with better offensive typing in Archeops has a similarly crippling ability (it stops existing once it drops below 50) could also trivially play around its crappy ability, like Golisopod, and ended up in NU. If Arceops isn't good enough to go above NU, Golisopod isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:35:57 No.30448186 Report

Quoted By: >>30448340

user z0mOG will be the Style of gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:41:46 No.30448340 Report

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>>30448186
Thanks

yuuy

yuuy Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:43:16 No.30448388 Report

Quoted By: >>30448591 >>30449159

Best SM OU player here, ask me anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:51:36 No.30448591 Report

Quoted By: >>30448600

>>30448388
is alolan raichu good?

yuuy

yuuy Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:52:01 No.30448600 Report

Quoted By:

>>30448591
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:00:44 No.30448826 Report

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>tfw running a team you ran in gen 3 in gen 7
why can't i enjoy new things

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:13:29 No.30449159 Report

Quoted By: >>30449161

>>30448388
Are you an S or an M

yuuy

yuuy Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:13:47 No.30449161 Report

Quoted By: >>30449300

>>30449159
S.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:19:34 No.30449300 Report

Quoted By:

>>30449161
lame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:21:54 No.30449362 Report

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>>30447214
You do realize emergency exit is a free switch that lets you use Golisopod's signature move twice?

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