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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:12:34 No.30447593 View View Reply Original Report

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What is the best type and why is it Bug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:16:42 No.30447715 Report

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>>30447593
it was pretty neat of them to give us two serviceable bug/water types this time around, especially after what they did with masquerain

bug/ground, on the other hand...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:17:21 No.30447737 Report

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>>30447593
It's not, Guzma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:17:53 No.30447750 Report

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>>30447737
look it's literally who

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:17:59 No.30447751 Report

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>>30447593
I like ghosts but bugs are cool too. A bug ghost with more than 1 hp would be nice though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:18:37 No.30447766 Report

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I'm still waiting for a bug/dragon and bug/dark type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:18:59 No.30447776 Report

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>>30447593
>forgetting about Vikavolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:19:47 No.30447803 Report

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>>30447750
Who is hotter, stronger and better than (You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:20:22 No.30447822 Report

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I was hesitant on golisopod but he's grown on me. He's great to have on a team with u turners and volt switchers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:20:38 No.30447832 Report

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>>30447715
>tfw no mole cricket with groundinate and boomburst

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:21:44 No.30447853 Report

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>>30447593
I don't know what to do with my new metagame team

I'm serious, I already use two Bug/Steels because they're so good, I was trying to fit some of the new ones onto it but it's impossible to cover all my weaknesses if I add another bug or steel type

Somm (3282-2427-1399)

Somm (3282-2427-1399) Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:25:09 No.30447932 Report

Quoted By: >>30448087 >>30448723

>only bug/fire pokemon is a pseudo-legendary from 2 gens ago
>STILL no fire ant
>no bug/dark
>no bug/psychic
>no bug/ice
>no bug/dragon Even though Vibrava should be that REEEEEE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:26:38 No.30447960 Report

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>>30447593
I personally feel Golispod is the best. It's got it's own play style and in the right hands its a monster revenge killer.

In battle spot without Volcrona I feel Ribombee deserves special mention. It's obscenely strong and can pull off a sweep, clean up real good late game after things have taken chip damage. Wondering how it stacks up to the newly buffed Masquerain..

Araquanid is also really good, but the lack of recovery hurts. In Mono bug its a solid answer to fire. It's biggest issue is being outclasses without that restriction leaving it in a niche use.

>>30447776
Vikavolt is hella and I love it but its no where near as strong as these three.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:30:30 No.30448061 Report

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>>30447960
Was talking more about design and cool look if anything. I know Vikavolt is not the greatest (especially since it's an early route bug, the only reason Scolipede is good is cause Speed Boost) and Golisopod simple shats and everyone. I love all the bugs this gen. Just feeling bad that propke forget about it cause "muh Speed".

>>30447593
Shouldn't Buzzwole and Pheromosa be in here as well ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:31:33 No.30448085 Report

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>>30448061
*people

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:31:37 No.30448087 Report

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>>30447932
>Volcarona
>pseudo-legendary

fuck off tripfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:38:35 No.30448252 Report

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>>30447593
Redditpod is shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:42:23 No.30448361 Report

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>>30448061
Vikavolt is better then you'd be led to believe despite the meddling speed, Gliscor can be used to PB agility to an AoA set and the two cover eachother pretty well. A slow Volt Switcher has many its own merits as well. Charge + Z-Zap Cannon is seeing use as a free OHKO as long as nothing is immune.

As far as design goes I knew Grubbin was going to be my baby and Im reluctant right now, just because it's new but I am very close to going so far to say it has my favorite design of all pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:43:31 No.30448394 Report

Quoted By: >>30448733

Because it contains Araquanid, Ariados, Mega Beedrill, Scoliopede, Scyther and Scizor.

Other types do not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:45:22 No.30448431 Report

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>>30447715
they also helped pinsir and scizor with the mega mechanics
and stuff like volcarona and few other bugs can now land land solid ohko on what usually are their checks thanks to the z moves

ice still got nothing that isn't aurora veil
not even a little more expansion for freeze dry

same for kyurem and the regis trio

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:48:31 No.30448510 Report

Quoted By: >>30448969

>>30448361
I know Vikavolt is far better then it looks. It's just stupid when people forget about it cause "muh Speed Stat". What, if say Dragonite had base 50 Speed would you forget about it as well ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:56:46 No.30448706 Report

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>>30448087
>Getting confused between namefags and tripfags
Hey, did you also find this cool forum during the leaks? xD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:57:29 No.30448723 Report

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>>30447932
>she wasnt bug/psychic
>instead she was just another bug/fighting
I hate GF sometimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 20:57:56 No.30448733 Report

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>>30448394
>Ariados
Muh nugga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:01:21 No.30448846 Report

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>>30447593
It has the poke waifus that dont appeal to normies or are too degenerate, its a perfect balance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:05:59 No.30448969 Report

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>>30448510
remind me, what level does vikavolt get quiver dance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:08:11 No.30449020 Report

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>>30448969
It doesn't learn Quiver Dance. Might just use Agility, your SpAtk is sky high anyway.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:11:07 No.30449089 Report

Quoted By: >>30454281

Vikavolt is pretty good though. It can pretty much sweep Kahili, and is a lot better in general than people like to admit, I think. Bug Buzz, Thunderbolt, Flash Cannon, and HP Ice hits a lot and pretty hard, with survivability being a bit of an issue of course. But it does hit like truck.
I like to pair it with Power of Alchemy Alolan Muk its neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:13:15 No.30449150 Report

Quoted By: >>30449186 >>30449756

>>30448723
I like that Nihilego, Pheromosa, Kartana, Celesteela, and maybe Guzzlord have shocking typings at first but then make sense after a double take. I'm more disappointed that Buzzwole is Bug/Fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:13:27 No.30449157 Report

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>>30449020
it's 11 points higher than dragonite's attack. and dragonite can boost its speed and attack in one move, while bulking a super effective hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:14:45 No.30449186 Report

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>>30449150
The only one that makes sense is celesteela being a rocket ship, I dont get the rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:18:14 No.30449261 Report

Quoted By: >>30449390

>>30449157
You didn't get my questing. I was asking, if Dragonite had 50 base Speed or even just as much as Vikavolt, would you still love it ? Or Gengar and Infernape (let's say), would you still like them ? After all the "LOL IT'S SO SLOW !" memers ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:18:44 No.30449273 Report

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>>30447593
You mispelled 'dark'.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:18:48 No.30449276 Report

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>>30447593
Did someone say bug thread? Bugssssss <3 <3 <3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:19:25 No.30449295 Report

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>>30447593

resisted by 7 types.

explain yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:21:00 No.30449338 Report

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>>30447593
I think you meant to say water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:21:46 No.30449354 Report

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>>30449338
>Most overrated and abundant type in the game
Sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:21:49 No.30449357 Report

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>>30447960
Masquerain gets a buff? In what sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:21:50 No.30449358 Report

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>>30448252
>Redditpod
So Magikarp is Redditkarp?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:22:43 No.30449382 Report

Quoted By: >>30455486

In terms of designs.
1. Ghost
2. Water
3. Bug

Also best bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:22:54 No.30449390 Report

Quoted By: >>30449491

>>30449261
do you have a mental disability?

i just explained why dragonite would still be good even if it had 50 speed. vikavolt does not have the same tools.

Jimmy Neutron !1ahbdFjl0w

Jimmy Neutron !1ahbdFjl0w Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:23:50 No.30449419 Report

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>>30447803
DAMN BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:24:12 No.30449427 Report

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>>30447737
I fucking hate this stupid golf bitch. Stupid face, stupid stance, stupid waifu.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:25:42 No.30449461 Report

Quoted By: >>30449580

>>30449157
I get it, Dragonite has a better movepool and stats, but its a persudo. And luckily for it, it's not help back by a Gradius joke that blew over everyone's head.

Yeah, its unfit for OU. Yeah, its going to be limited to gimmick sets. But why should that stop people from liking it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:26:43 No.30449491 Report

Quoted By: >>30449567

>>30449390
Why do I even bother with autists. I'm not talking about competitive viability, I'm talking about personal fave even after all the epic memers. And what about the other two ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:27:03 No.30449505 Report

Quoted By: >>30449557

>>30449357
+20 Sp attack
+20 Speed
BASE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:28:47 No.30449557 Report

Quoted By: >>30449653 >>30449668

>>30449505
How significant is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:29:09 No.30449567 Report

Quoted By: >>30449616

>>30449491
>vikavolt has agility and sky high attack!
>i'm not talking about competitive viability

nice goalpost moving, vikacuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:29:34 No.30449580 Report

Quoted By: >>30449600 >>30449671

>>30449461
>moving the goalposts completely off the field
You were the one that dragged dragonite into this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:30:21 No.30449600 Report

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>>30449580
Check my spelling and punctuation. He's a different poster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:30:57 No.30449616 Report

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>>30449567
......was reponding to your question if it got QD or not and what you could use instead of it if you wanted to use it. Good job showing your lack of attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:32:35 No.30449653 Report

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>>30449557
Alright, alright. Would have been better if it was +30 to those base stats but I'll take it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:33:01 No.30449668 Report

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>>30449557
Its Bug Buzz crit OHKOd my Oricorio.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:33:04 No.30449671 Report

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>>30449580
Please leave already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:33:54 No.30449684 Report

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>>30447960
hella what? slow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:37:41 No.30449756 Report

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>>30449150

Why is Nihi a rock type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:39:32 No.30449794 Report

Quoted By: >>30449919 >>30453460

>>30447715
one is a special attacker and the other a physical attacker
pretty good

>>30447593
bugs are best because of best design

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:39:49 No.30449808 Report

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>>30449756
she's supposed to be made of crystals or some shit

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:43:52 No.30449919 Report

Quoted By: >>30450088 >>30453460

>>30449794
>one is a special attacker and the other a physical attacker

they're both physical attackers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:46:26 No.30449986 Report

Quoted By: >>30450026

>>30449808
Glass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:48:06 No.30450026 Report

Quoted By: >>30450088 >>30450148

>>30449986
she should be a ground type then

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:51:01 No.30450088 Report

Quoted By: >>30450121

>>30450026
That would be retarded.

>>30449919
It's got better physical attack, but it really shines as a mixed attacker with Scald + Leech Life. Bugs getting reliable powerful recovery is pretty huge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:52:35 No.30450121 Report

Quoted By: >>30450173

>>30450088
mixed =/= special

it only takes scald because it has nothing else to put in that slot. it's a physical attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:53:01 No.30450129 Report

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>>30448723
She (Gender Unknown) is stronk, just uses speed instead of mass to strike hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:54:13 No.30450148 Report

Quoted By: >>30450189

>>30450026
The problem is, sand has been distributed between both Ground AND Rock.

Don't believe me? Then tell me what type Sand-Attack and Sand Tomb are, and what type Soft Sand boosts. Now tell me what type Sandstorm is, as well as what type it boosts the Special Defense of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:55:04 No.30450173 Report

Quoted By: >>30450215

>>30450121
Agreed, but if you were going raw power you use Liquidation. The burn chance has always been why you use Scald over anything else, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:55:37 No.30450189 Report

Quoted By: >>30450229

>>30450148
every sand themed pokemon and attack is ground type, including sandstorm. its rock boost is the only exception.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:56:46 No.30450213 Report

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>>30449186

Nihilego was described as glass-like in its initial description, and it pumps people full of a neurotoxin drug. Rock/Poison aka crystal meth.
Pheromosa is a roach that runs and kicks. Bug/Fighting.
Kartana is grorious Nippon origami folded 1000 times. Paper is made from plants, and blades are made from metal. Grass/Steel.
Guzzlord is the sin of gluttony in living form, and it has claws, horns, vestigial wings, and a tail alongside resembling Zygarde. Dark/Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:56:54 No.30450215 Report

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>>30450173
>The burn chance has always been why you use Scald over anything else, though

uh, no. liquidation is a must. people carry BOTH liquidation and scald because again, there is nothing to put in the fourth slot, and the utility is nice. but nobody is using araquanid without that physical fucking nuke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 21:57:29 No.30450229 Report

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>>30450189
...You might want to double-check Sandstorm's type, friend.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:02:15 No.30450360 Report

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK SMOGON

I ACTUALLY USE HIM AND HE IS VIABLE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:04:04 No.30450411 Report

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>>30450360
what are you complaining about? he's a sleeper hit like tangrowth. do you need recognition that badly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:06:51 No.30450479 Report

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>>30450360
Half of those will be usable.
Take heart, because that just means Smogshitters can't go look up what counters it. On top of that they wont know what to expect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:10:09 No.30450567 Report

Quoted By: >>30450664

>>30447593
>bugs were the laughing stock of gen 1
>gamefreak proceeds to deliver one based bug after another

Apologize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:13:25 No.30450636 Report

Quoted By: >>30450689

>>30450360
Link?
Also calm your autism, Smogon is writing about hat they think will be OU right now. We don't even have the usage statistics yet, so they're doing hat they feel like will be OU. If Araquanid does end up OU (I don't think it will) then you'll have your analysis.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:14:25 No.30450664 Report

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>>30450567
>get buffed considerably
>can't even be used

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WHY DIDN'T YOU RELEASE BEEDRILLITE YET GAMEFREAK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:15:33 No.30450689 Report

Quoted By: >>30455233 >>30455890

>>30450636
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sun-moon-ou-reservation-index-read-the-op.3588447/

vikavolt is getting an ou analysis for some reason, bugbros win again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:23:40 No.30450885 Report

Quoted By: >>30450948 >>30455961 >>30465182

OFFICIAL GEN RATINGS BY THEIR BUGS
1. Unova
Absolute great bugs and a shit ton at that. Gen 5 brought justice to bugs.
2. Johto
They were a bitch to get often but the bugs of johto are some of the best. Great designs like heracross, scizor, shuckle, and forretress. Yeah ledian exists but one dud doesn't ruin the greats.
3. Alola
Great designs and unique in battle. The alola bugs are a bit weird but are quite interesting in terms of bugs.
4. Hoenn
Things fall off from here. After the silver age that was johto things kinda went bad for bugs. There were some interesting ones like ninjask, shedinja, and masquerain but nothing insane.
5. Sinnoh
Sinnoh bugs are pretty weak. None of the real new ones like kirketune or vespiqueen were really good and less said about the burmy evolutions the better. Yanmega was great.
6. Kanto
Unfortunately the bugs of kanto are, or at least started, quite weak. They were either early shitmon (butterfree and beedrill) or insanely outclassed (pinsir, scyther, venomoth, and parasect). Fortunately megas and new evolutions helped some but not for awhile.
7. Kalos
One fucking bug line, just one.

Its not a terrible line but a single bug is disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:26:27 No.30450948 Report

Quoted By: >>30451161

>>30450885
The only good Gen 5 bugs were Volcarona and Galvantula

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:27:19 No.30450962 Report

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>>30447593
Extremely neat looking animals to find inspiration from.

So many things resist them that some moves can be unique.

I don't know. They just are the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:35:35 No.30451161 Report

Quoted By: >>30451304 >>30451350 >>30451370 >>30453489

>>30450948
>not scolipede
>not crustle
>not durant

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:41:59 No.30451304 Report

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>>30451161
You forgot Escavalier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:43:31 No.30451350 Report

Quoted By: >>30451374 >>30451389

>>30451161
>scolipede
Pretty good

>crustle
shit

>durant
meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:44:46 No.30451370 Report

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>>30451161
>implying anyone has ever used durant in game
>no leavanny

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:44:54 No.30451374 Report

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>>30451350
>scolipede
great
>crustle
great
>durant
great
>your opinion
shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 22:45:26 No.30451389 Report

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>>30451350
Crustle with Sturdy and Shell Smash can do some considerable damage so it isn't exactly shit, but it's not the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:05:51 No.30453460 Report

Quoted By: >>30454410

>>30449794
>>30449919
Araquanid isn't an attacker at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:07:09 No.30453489 Report

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>>30451161
>cyndaquil used ember!
>Durant fainted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:11:29 No.30453599 Report

Quoted By: >>30455338 >>30455476

>>30450360
>of all the three starters Decidueye is both the most commonly seen one on the ladder and the most viable one
>is the only one of the starters not getting an analysis
Somebody please explain this to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:14:29 No.30453682 Report

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>>30447593
>forgetting thunderbug
sadboys
still, gen 7 has to be the best generation for the bug type ever
>Four new regular mons, all of which seem to have at least a niche in UU
>two great UBs
>huge Leech Life buff
>Lunge
>Fell Stinger buff
>Mega Evolution buffs making Mega Beedrill much better

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:26:21 No.30453975 Report

Quoted By: >>30458240 >>30458448

>>30447715
>TFW no giant sandworm pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:28:47 No.30454039 Report

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>>30447737
Don't train your Mandibuzz's HP stat that high, goddamn girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:38:28 No.30454281 Report

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>>30447593
>no Vikavolt
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>30449089
Roost helps with survivability at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:40:14 No.30454326 Report

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>>30450360
>caring about smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:43:35 No.30454409 Report

Quoted By: >>30454900

>no Alolan Butterfree that's Bug/Psychic and is actually decent
Fucking why, Game Freak?
Why did you have to halfass Alola formes?

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:43:35 No.30454410 Report

Quoted By: >>30457664

>>30453460
>Araquanid isn't an attacker at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:53:19 No.30454652 Report

Quoted By: >>30454715

Legend has it that one day the two best types, Bug and Ghost, will once again cross to create a proper Pokemon line. From first to final stage, it will indisputably be one of the greatest designs ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:55:39 No.30454715 Report

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>>30454652
Shedinja is the prophet but we have yet to meet his god
>inb4 its a fucking mythical
>yes im still mad about water/fire
>yes im still mad about ghost/fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 00:59:34 No.30454815 Report

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>>30450360
That just means the average shitter you'll meet won't know what the fuck to do against it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:02:28 No.30454900 Report

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>>30454409

They're spooning them out to us, we'll get more in version 3 if there even is a version 3 or... oh god, gen 4 remakes are we really that far along?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:02:53 No.30454915 Report

Quoted By: >>30455546

I'm starting a new run and my team is gonna be Mimikyu, Tsareena, Salazzle, Wishiwashi, Minior

I want to use one of the bug/water pokemon, but I can't decide which. Leaning towards Golisopod, but does anyone have any reasons to go Dewpider instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:13:08 No.30455233 Report

Quoted By:

>>30450689
>Crabominable gets an analysis
>Araquanid, Salazzle, Silvally, Golisopod don't
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:16:50 No.30455338 Report

Quoted By: >>30455409

>>30453599
anyone that is decent knows that it is overhyped trash, it is totally outclassed by dhelmise

there is a reason dhelmise is getting one and it isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:19:23 No.30455409 Report

Quoted By: >>30455456

>>30455338
They serve different purposes, so I wouldn't say totally outclassed.

It's just odd to exclude Decidueye while including pokémon that see far less usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:20:54 No.30455456 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455409
they aren't including it so it can drop to a tier where it can excel

its going to have the same problem as last gen ambipom/vaporeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:21:01 No.30455459 Report

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Remember when bug was the joke type for 4-5 gens? Glad that shit finally changed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:21:25 No.30455476 Report

Quoted By: >>30455664 >>30455689 >>30461982

>>30453599

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:21:46 No.30455486 Report

Quoted By: >>30455533

>>30449382
>ghost
>good design
Chose one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:23:12 No.30455533 Report

Quoted By: >>30455741

>>30455486
You probably hate Pallosand and Dhelmise, don't ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:23:47 No.30455546 Report

Quoted By: >>30455604 >>30461931

>>30454915
available earlier
doesn't switch out like a bitch
water moves hit like a fucking truck
stronger scald which is available as a TM in the same area you catch it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:24:01 No.30455554 Report

Quoted By:

>>30449358
No because Magikarp evolves into a good Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:25:37 No.30455604 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455546
oh and it resists fire, serving the purpose of a water type, while goliso is neutral and can get crippled by burn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:25:57 No.30455612 Report

Quoted By: >>30459265

Ah, a bug type thread! How do you do fellow bug lovers? Sure is nice to be a lover of bugs, yes sir, full on bugbro here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:26:58 No.30455664 Report

Quoted By: >>30455775

>>30455476
As far as OU is concerned Decidueye will see more usage as Primarina is outclassed by Tapu Fini.
Keep in mind that shit like Crabominable, Gumshoos, Passimian and many other pokémon without a chance of reaching UU are getting OU analysises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:27:35 No.30455689 Report

Quoted By: >>30455718 >>30455822

>>30455476
Necrozma's not an Uber?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:28:44 No.30455718 Report

Quoted By: >>30455818

>>30455689
look at his stats brah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:29:52 No.30455741 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455533
I don't hate any mon, but the design of the ghosts aren't good as the bug ones
as a overall they are 6.5/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:31:18 No.30455775 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455664
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Gumshoos Return vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Landorus-Therian: 236-278 (73.9 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:33:10 No.30455818 Report

Quoted By: >>30457786

>>30455718
Huh, I guess I should've. I assumed he'd be stronger because he's a legendary (he is, right?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:33:14 No.30455822 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455689
>its signature move is psychic hyper beam
what do you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:35:28 No.30455890 Report

Quoted By:

>>30450689
>Vikavolt is the only Gen 7 bug getting an OU analysis
Why does everyone exclude it from Gen 7 bug threads again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:38:15 No.30455961 Report

Quoted By:

>>30450885
Ledian's design is great, it's not a total loss

yes it is who am I kidding

why does best bug never get any love

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 01:49:24 No.30456277 Report

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Heracross is and always will be my brofu. Sun and Moon introduced a lot of fucking great bug and water types, and I have a hard trouble keeping my party varied and balanced because I wanna fill it with bugs and fish. I've had Wishiwashi practically the entire game and he still beasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 02:39:44 No.30457664 Report

Quoted By: >>30457924 >>30458281

>>30454410
>base 70 attack
>base 42 speed
>b-but muh boost to water type attacks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 02:44:21 No.30457786 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455818
Yes, it's officially been called the third Legendary. It's continuing the trend of Kyurem/Zygarde of starting off weak then getting a powerful forme in a future game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 02:50:24 No.30457924 Report

Quoted By: >>30458372 >>30458493

>>30457664
you are fucking retarded. with water moves it has somewhere around 190 base attack. and water is resisted by a whopping three types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:02:42 No.30458240 Report

Quoted By: >>30458487

>>30453975
>tfw no earthworm Pokemon
>tfw no earthworm Pokemon that evolves into a giant monstrous sandworm with Arena Trap
Make it happen, Gamefreak; this stuff makes itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:03:50 No.30458281 Report

Quoted By: >>30458372 >>30458493

>>30457664
You do realize that Water Bubble gives it a base 170 power Liquidation, right?

That hits harder than Keldeo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:07:19 No.30458372 Report

Quoted By:

>>30457924
>>30458281
Trolled.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:10:18 No.30458448 Report

Quoted By: >>30458487 >>30459164 >>30459178

>>30453975
what would its stats be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:11:53 No.30458487 Report

Quoted By: >>30458856

>>30458448
High Attack and Bulk, but not sub-par speed

and also:>>30458240
Arena Trap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:12:01 No.30458493 Report

Quoted By: >>30458974

>>30457924
>>30458281
>42 base speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:26:36 No.30458856 Report

Quoted By: >>30459178 >>30459517

>>30458487
if we're going full shai-hulud 600 bst would be appropriate
so bug/ground (resistance fighting/ground/poison. weakness flying/fire/water/ice, immunity electric)

needs high bulk and attack. higher physical bulk than special seems appropriate, so given its size having most bulk come from hp
sp-atk can be full on dump stat, reasonable speed would be necessary

what about
140 hp
135 atk
110 def
45 sp-atk
90 sp-def
80 speed

ability arena trap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:28:26 No.30458908 Report

Quoted By:

>>30447853
Entrainment Water Bubble Araquanid for doubles, maybe? Don't know what kind of help it would be for a scizor or a durant to have water bubble protecting it from fire, but it's a start at least. Also, the secondary typings allow a lot more coverage than it first seems-all major bug weaknesses have at least one mon that is neutral to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:30:20 No.30458963 Report

Quoted By:

>>30447960
Wait, doesn't araquanid get aqua ring, leech life, and at least rest on top of those two? It does get some minor recovery that way at least, might be doable with leftovers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:30:37 No.30458974 Report

Quoted By:

>>30458493
who cares if it can eat special attacks and hit hard with water

no Pokemon can be perfect

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:38:18 No.30459164 Report

Quoted By: >>30460537 >>30461154

>>30458448
Shai'Hulud.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:38:45 No.30459178 Report

Quoted By: >>30459224 >>30459863

>>30458448
>>30458856
>tfw we'll never get a Bug/Ground sandworm pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:40:53 No.30459224 Report

Quoted By:

>>30459178
>it'll never be the ace of a desert nomad E4 member

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:42:18 No.30459265 Report

Quoted By: >>30462741

>>30455612

Well met, fellow Bug!

Boy, I sure do love being a Bug. Ain't nobody here but us Bugs, am I right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:51:57 No.30459517 Report

Quoted By: >>30459581

>>30458856
>full shai-hulud
get out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 03:54:50 No.30459581 Report

Quoted By: >>30460429

>>30459517
I know I fucked up the spelling, but its the idea that counts right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:04:24 No.30459863 Report

Quoted By: >>30459950

>>30459178
>worm
>bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:07:19 No.30459950 Report

Quoted By:

>>30459863
shuckle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:24:34 No.30460429 Report

Quoted By: >>30460529

>>30459581
true

too bad its not 4x weak to water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:28:16 No.30460529 Report

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>>30460429
yeh, though I do like the idea of it having arena trap

maybe give it arena trap, custom ability that trades fire immunity for water weakness (sandworms are described as being virtually immune to heat in the books) and something like multiscale for HA?

would also give it 2 distinct uses, one as a trapper and one as general purpose wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:28:31 No.30460537 Report

Quoted By: >>30460588

>>30459164
gesundheit, fellow lost soul

I'm planning on training a Ribbombee for the battle tree, what sort of set should I go for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:30:09 No.30460588 Report

Quoted By: >>30460711

>>30460537
We're sill alive, though we haven't pretended to be on topic in ages.

We're actually doing gristmas right now.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:34:51 No.30460711 Report

Quoted By: >>30460768

>>30460588
I left vriskachan about a year ago, it was just too far gone by that point. actual threads on /co/ came to become a reincarnation of the original, to some point. haven't seen a thread in a few days at least.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:36:45 No.30460768 Report

Quoted By: >>30460931

>>30460711
>actual threads on /co/ came to become a reincarnation of the original
I heard /hst/ was utter garbage but then again I haven't checked. Carry on well.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:42:38 No.30460931 Report

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>>30460768
It was at least usually on topic, in whatever twisted way, usually complaining about the game and the snapchat. Thanks for keeping the memories alive, friend.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:44:54 No.30460993 Report

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Why is he so perfect?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:47:59 No.30461084 Report

Quoted By: >>30461800

>Using toxapex and Starmie
>Probably don't want another water type
>Feels bad
>Island scan gives me Roselia
>Who I can use as my grass coverage, getting rid of Tsareena and also take Toxapex's role of poison setup
>Which would let me use Golisopod
Should I do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:50:41 No.30461154 Report

Quoted By: >>30461203

>>30459164
>you must collect the spice
>fuck that

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 04:52:19 No.30461203 Report

Quoted By:

>>30461154

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 05:13:57 No.30461800 Report

Quoted By:

>>30461084
Yes, it's a beast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 05:20:17 No.30461931 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455546
But I already have Wishiwashi for all that shit
I want a bug type, not another water type that also happens to be bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 05:22:49 No.30461982 Report

Quoted By:

>>30455476
>Primarina
>"Assault Vest"
no don't

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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 05:35:26 No.30462208 Report

Quoted By:

>>30450360
>Crabrawler and Vikavolt get analyzed
>Based waterbugs, Decidueye, Salazzle, and Guzzy dont

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 06:00:42 No.30462664 Report

Quoted By: >>30462768

>>30450360
>list of new pokemon that are NOT getting SM OU analyses
>anything else not listed here is NOT getting an analysis
sorry, what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 06:03:52 No.30462741 Report

Quoted By: >>30467202

>>30459265
Why wasn't the Flygon line bug/dragons?
Why isn't Yanmega a bug/dragon?!

In flygon's case it would remove the immunity to sandstorms, which lore says it thrives in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 06:05:15 No.30462768 Report

Quoted By: >>30462851 >>30462895

>>30462664
The top mods are basically sucking each other off in the discord chat. The reason behind Decidueye not getting an analysis is that he's a popular shitmon. Golisopod due to "having a weird ability"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 06:09:05 No.30462851 Report

Quoted By: >>30463416

>>30462768
I mean that according to that no pokemon in the list AND outside of it are not getting an analysis, or I'm reading it wrong and need to sleep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 06:11:42 No.30462895 Report

Quoted By:

>>30462768
>having a weird ability
Isn't that why it should be analyzed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 06:37:17 No.30463416 Report

Quoted By:

>>30462851
The ones listed are SPECIFICALLY not getting analyzed. Anything else they didn't mention aren't getting analyzed either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 08:27:49 No.30465182 Report

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>>30450885
Gotta give Sinnoh a little credit: while the bugs weren't the best, at least it gave bug MOVES so they could finally be a viable type to use. Before X-Scissor was invented, what did they really have? Silver Wind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 11:03:58 No.30467202 Report

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>>30462741
Give Flygon sand veil as a second ability
bam

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