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Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 15:49:26 No.30470923 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30471010 >>30471034 >>30471123 >>30471438

I've been out of the loop, why did Zygarde got banned from OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 15:52:50 No.30470986 Report

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Power Construct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 15:54:00 No.30471010 Report

Quoted By: >>30471066

>>30470923
Zygarde didn't get banned, Power Construct did. Considering it had Chansey level health and moves like Coil, my guess was you would be fucked if you didn't have Ice Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 15:55:22 No.30471034 Report

Quoted By: >>30471066 >>30471538

>>30470923
Basically, it's Chansey level bulky but can hit hard and setup and destroys everything with boosted thousand arrows.

An ice beam from Greninja can't one shot it iirc, insane bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 15:57:09 No.30471066 Report

Quoted By: >>30471115 >>30471376 >>30471538

>>30471010
>>30471034
So you bring either Dog or Snake, use Coil, then after power construct activates you kill everything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 15:58:06 No.30471083 Report

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Because of power construct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:00:01 No.30471115 Report

Quoted By: >>30471538

>>30471066
>send out snek
>activate Power Construct
>unleash RestTalk w/ boosting move of choice
>sweep with Thousand Arrows
The fucker would not goddamn die, so it had to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:00:12 No.30471121 Report

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On the subject of Zygarde, I am loving this doggo right now; excellent lum-raging d-dancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:00:19 No.30471123 Report

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>>30470923
because it was literally gen 2 snorlax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:03:49 No.30471171 Report

Quoted By: >>30471213

This comcept of a Pokémon's base HP changing in the middle of a match compels me.
Shame they didn't explore it with mega evolution.
Would Mega Shedinja be broken if all of its +100 BST went into HP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:05:02 No.30471193 Report

Quoted By: >>30471407 >>30471503 >>30471518 >>30472086

So does Power Construct actually heal Zygarde or is it just adjusting for the improved Health base stat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:06:05 No.30471213 Report

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>>30471171

Nope, its defenses are so shit it would barely make a difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:15:00 No.30471376 Report

Quoted By: >>30471425 >>30471429

>>30471066
If it's at max Health by resting, it has a chance to survive a life orb blizzard from Obama.

252 SpA Life Orb Obama Blizzard vs. 200 HP / 252+ SpD Zygarde-Complete: 551-655 (88.4 - 105.1%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:17:18 No.30471407 Report

Quoted By: >>30471518

>>30471193
It's a full heal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:18:10 No.30471425 Report

Quoted By: >>30471440 >>30471445

>>30471376
>Obama
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:18:21 No.30471429 Report

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>>30471376
Just sash doggone and you don't have to worry about anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:18:57 No.30471438 Report

Quoted By: >>30471513

>>30470923
What's the best set for dragon dog?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:19:02 No.30471440 Report

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>>30471425
Abomasnow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:19:16 No.30471442 Report

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>There were people who actually thought Power Construnct wouldn't get banned
Who's laughing now, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:19:24 No.30471445 Report

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>>30471425

Abomosnow. Obama/Obamasnow is its nickname.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:22:14 No.30471503 Report

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>>30471193
The latter, but it's like 30% heal which is good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:22:43 No.30471513 Report

Quoted By: >>30472170

>>30471438
Band or D-Dance.

Personally run Zygarde-10% @ Lum Berry
Ability: Aura Break
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thousand Arrows
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed
- Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:22:48 No.30471518 Report

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>>30471193
Ignore >>30471407, it's adjusting for the improved base HP stat. For a full heal you have to use Rest, which isn't a bad move on Zygod.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:23:41 No.30471538 Report

Quoted By: >>30471559 >>30471579 >>30471644 >>30471731

>>30471066
>>30471115
>>30471034
I remember when a couple of /vp/ fags were talking shit about Perfect Zygarde after the datamine. Funny how he turned out to be damn near invincible. It goes to show how stupid /vp/ can be and how quick /vp/ Anons are to judge mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:25:03 No.30471559 Report

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>>30471538
He's good as a wall in ubers. He won't be able to set up, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:26:20 No.30471579 Report

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>>30471538
it's always been like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:30:03 No.30471644 Report

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>>30471538
Because people thought from the start it would be sent to Ubers. And look, it's not good there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:35:10 No.30471731 Report

Quoted By: >>30471975

>>30471538
They were right though. For all the hype he was getting, he was expected to be able to throw down with Mega Fug. As it is, he's average in ubers and STILL gets railed on by Xerneas whom he's supposed to be able to best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:49:51 No.30471975 Report

Quoted By: >>30472051

>>30471731
Perhaps they should give it belly drum to help it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:54:10 No.30472051 Report

Quoted By: >>30472165

>>30471975
No, GF should just make the comp form permanent and give it an aura break buff that keeps the old effect but also fucks over Fairy and Dark moves used on Zygarde by 33% less damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 16:56:03 No.30472086 Report

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>>30471193

Specifically, it adjusts the HP percentage so that the amount missing is the same.

So if doggo has 200 HP and complete has 600 HP, dealing 150 damage wold leave it at 25%, activate Power Construct, then heal it to 75% (600 HP - 150 HP = 450 HP).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 17:01:20 No.30472165 Report

Quoted By: >>30472210

>>30472051
Aura Break does that anyway now. It actively reverses the other two auras.

IMO core enforcer should be like thousand arrows and hit fairy types. I agree with perfect form having aura break

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 17:01:35 No.30472170 Report

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>>30471513

You should REALLY use Jolly. Base 115 outspeed a lot of important stuff, and lets you use Zydog without setting up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Dec 2016 17:04:03 No.30472210 Report

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>>30472165
I am fairly sure it inverts the buff, which isn't the same. (It goes from 4/3 to 3/4, which is -25%)

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