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Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 22:36:36 No.30508762 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30508806 >>30508893 >>30509755 >>30509897 >>30509949 >>30510053 >>30510249 >>30510608 >>30511645 >>30511701

Allegedly, people are getting bans for trades that involve hacked pokemon in Sun and Moon. Thoughts on this?
http://pokemonforever.com/Thread-SUN-MOON-Warning-Please-Be-Careful-Gamefreak-is-Banning
Also, verlisify made a video celebrating it and I know how much we all love verlisify :^)
https://youtu.be/VxWqtKV6-KU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 22:38:08 No.30508806 Report

Quoted By: >>30508911 >>30511610 >>30512432

>>30508762
why do youtubers always yell in their video titles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 22:42:03 No.30508893 Report

Quoted By: >>30509609

>>30508762
Heh. They've had the ability to do this since XY if not earlier.

But it's a shame, hacking in humorous or clever joke pokemon for mass WT was one of the fun things to do in Gen 6.

>Hack in boxes of HA shiny Ho-ohs that were bank-legal
>GTS them to fill my pokedex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 22:42:30 No.30508911 Report

Quoted By: >>30508945

>>30508806
a form of clickbait, I guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 22:43:29 No.30508945 Report

Quoted By: >>30509324

>>30508911

Nononono Verlis doesn't resort to clickbait kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 22:46:21 No.30509025 Report

Quoted By: >>30510450 >>30512243

Do you think if you poked Verlisfy's forehead he would go into an autistic rage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 22:57:48 No.30509324 Report

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>>30508945
you're right, I shouldn't tarnish his good name like that :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:02:07 No.30509461 Report

Quoted By: >>30509609

I think I got a cloned/hacked Yveltal in Pokémon X. I was able to transfer it to the Bank. The moves, the level and the ability are also regular. Do you think moving it to SM will be risky? I'm trying to make a living dex, and also I had to trade a goddamn Xerneas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:07:23 No.30509609 Report

Quoted By: >>30509995

>>30509461
nothing is going to happen unless youre specifically doing >>30508893 this

in fact thats pretty much why theyre so far behind in hack prevention, because theyre not willing to punish people just for owning them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:09:41 No.30509695 Report

Quoted By: >>30509957 >>30509971

Am you fine if you trade offspring bred from hacked parents?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:10:33 No.30509724 Report

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Mmmk not releasing anymore 6IV dittos just to be safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:11:37 No.30509755 Report

Quoted By: >>30509909 >>30509957 >>30510028

>>30508762
I undoubtedly have three hacked pokemon I have revived in a trade, two are in ORAS.

One is a 6iv ditto in SM, I had revived it over the GTS.

The other two I asked for because fuck getting DPP for Rapid spin on Armaldo. And FRLG for Softboiled on Clefable.

If I do not transfer those two, am I safe or is that ditto sealing the deal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:16:25 No.30509897 Report

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>>30508762
So you mean to tell me if I gen my pokemon and edit their stats with powersaves, I get banned if I try and trade? Does this mean Verlis won?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:16:47 No.30509909 Report

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>>30509755
I think the main issue are blant hacks from shitty injections. I imagine if PKHex say it's legal then you're fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:18:24 No.30509949 Report

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>>30508762
Wait, hold on, I'm confused. Are people getting banned for RECEIVING hacked pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:18:27 No.30509950 Report

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I'm pretty sure this can only happen if you're trading mons that have the same PID.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:18:39 No.30509957 Report

Quoted By:

>>30509695
>>30509755
As far as I can tell, it's too soon to say if a pokemon is safe or not. I've received the 6IV Ledybot ditto and have sniped some ultra beasts in return for non legendary pokemon (probably people hacking in legendaries to complete their pokedex the lazy way) but nothing's happened to me yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:19:11 No.30509971 Report

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>>30509695
I hope not. Gas the injectfags. Gas the 6IV Ditto fags. Restore the purity of legit bloodlines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:20:17 No.30509995 Report

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>>30509609
Luckily I already have my living pokedex, so there isn't the same personal urge to hack anymore.
But yeah, if you're naive enough to do the Global Link, they have the data for everything you do on gts, and it's funny that I haven't seen any repercussions, that I am aware of, for that stunt.

Not to mention all the ditto/hidden ability scamming from back in XY, but that wasn't hacking, just exploiting the demand and built-in lack of accountability on GTS. Those were fun times.

My favorite hack was genning Kecleons with the Hidden Ability flag, and tutor moves from BW2, and the ability would automatically turn into Protean upon transfer. Wonder Traded boxes of those.

Whatever,
The point is that Game Freak has had the data on this since XY and they should have been banning people based on this since XY, but they're fucking lazy it seems.
It's really hard to take it seriously when they never fixed the ability to search for and request event-only pokemon on GTS that you can't even trade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:21:37 No.30510028 Report

Quoted By: >>30510321

>>30509755
>getting DPP for Rapid spin on Armaldo
???
It's an egg move, you don't need DPP to get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:22:26 No.30510053 Report

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>>30508762
surely this is in no way clickbait

uh uh

nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:23:04 No.30510076 Report

Quoted By: >>30510214

This doesn't hit anyone who hacks for personal use.

It will possibly hit big Youtube/Twitch channels who establish themselves by whoring out hacked Pokemon for donations and subscribers. And to that I say good fucking riddance. Those channels need to die in a fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:23:33 No.30510096 Report

Quoted By: >>30510154 >>30510214

Even if it was true what is the point, unbanning yourself is easy as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:25:11 No.30510154 Report

Quoted By: >>30510190

>>30510096
Why do retards keep saying this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:26:25 No.30510190 Report

Quoted By: >>30510231

>>30510154
if you're hacking you probably have CFW anyways, which you can easily change your system ID with

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:27:17 No.30510214 Report

Quoted By: >>30510843

>>30510096
The point is is that people who updated and can't get hacked pokemon can risk getting banned too
>>30510076
There's multiple channels like that? The only one I know of is AusLove

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:27:38 No.30510231 Report

Quoted By: >>30510384 >>30510498

>>30510190
No you can't.

People banned from the leak are still banned, there's absolutely no way to unban yourself out of a permanent system ban. You can inject the friend seed from a different 3DS and get around the wi-fi ban, but system ID bans are permanent and there is no workaround outside buying a new system or motherboard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:28:06 No.30510249 Report

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>>30508762

The article is mainly talking about bans related to disconnecting from the GTS during a trade and makes several explicit statements that it's not related to hacked mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:28:07 No.30510251 Report

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How exactly does one know if he's banned? I know that I've had some connection issues resulting in restarting the console (and losing a few ranks in my Plaza ffs), but I'm not sure if this is connected to bans or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:30:35 No.30510321 Report

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>>30510028
It was only chain-breedable in DPP, moreover a pain in the ass and fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:31:52 No.30510352 Report

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Meh, I got a 6IV Ditto and am not banned.

That's all I wanted really. I'll chain for the Ditto Natures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:33:12 No.30510384 Report

Quoted By: >>30510554

>>30510231
>he doesn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:34:56 No.30510439 Report

Quoted By: >>30510551 >>30510618 >>30510905

So in others words, this has nothing to with hacking but with people shitty wifi? Nice thread op

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:35:14 No.30510450 Report

Quoted By:

>>30509025
Probably, but if you touched an animal that has fur within the last 72 hours, he would instantly orgasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:36:46 No.30510498 Report

Quoted By: >>30510554

>>30510231
but noone cares about system id bans, everyone who got banned for playing SM early could've unbanned themselves by now and kept playing normally. The nnid is gone, but that's it.

Also the "ban" they are talking about in this shit is the one for disconnecting during trade, which is literally what happens when you lose connection during trading. This has NOTHING to do with hacking/injecting/whatever. And I'm saying this as someone who has sent the same hacked pokemon 4k+ times without any issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:37:57 No.30510538 Report

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Did a giveaway shortly after launch, thought it may have been due to playing offline on a leaked copy then was detected after it went live.

More than likely this now, huh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:38:16 No.30510551 Report

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>>30510439
Yep.
OP's link literally says that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:38:23 No.30510554 Report

Quoted By: >>30510626 >>30510784

>>30510384
Considering I'm on the Discord and IRC channels where CFW and homebrew devs discuss shit like this, yes I do know.

>>30510498
>noone cares about system ID bans
Enjoy never using Pokebank.
>muh homebrew Bank
Yeah good luck getting your Homebrew bank to connect with the next game on the Switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:39:47 No.30510608 Report

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>>30508762
After being told I'll be banned for RNG abuse in Gen 5 VGC, being told I'll be banned for downloading an Australian Pokémon Go app, being told I'll be banned for injecting with PKhex both in gen 6 and gen 7, I don't think I'm going to believe an article on some obscure blog telling me I'll be banned this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:39:55 No.30510618 Report

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>>30510439
;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:40:17 No.30510626 Report

Quoted By: >>30511560

>>30510554
>the next game on the Switch
Didn't Nintendo say the Switch won't replace the DS line?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:44:36 No.30510784 Report

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>>30510554
No interest in pokebank at all on my side. But even if, I could just grab any spare 3ds of myself or a friend and get it there to transfer my pokemon over... you know I can copy them all within seconds right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:45:57 No.30510843 Report

Quoted By: >>30510934 >>30511285

>>30510214
yep, there are channels dedicated to wonder trading bullshit off. some blatant hacked clone shit, others will try to justify their clones by saying they were legit bred & that using the gen 6 trade glitch was """""""""legit"""". all sides unfortunately rope saps in and open their channels up for "donations".

those trade glitch fucks are more annoying than the people using powersaves or pkhex OR the bike sim purists. they're clearly exploiting for their own gain, but turn their nose down to the ones who fuck about with the cheat devices. it isn't any better desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:47:10 No.30510885 Report

Quoted By:

So, what would be proper compensation for a female Turtonator in a Repeat Ball?
Or an apricot ball, but I doubt that's a reasonable request.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:47:39 No.30510901 Report

Quoted By: >>30510934

oh yeah, if someone gets hit with the trade ban & has some way to go to a previous save somehow, it can be bypassed pretty much. iicr someone with a physical cart & powersaves was able to do this, but i forgot which place i read this at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:47:46 No.30510905 Report

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>>30510439
but people on that website are giving away hacked pokemon and users in the forum are involved in hacked pokemon trades. If you watched the video you would know :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Dec 2016 23:48:38 No.30510934 Report

Quoted By: >>30511292

>>30510843
considering not a single person of this group has been banned tells you that these "bans" are not aimed at all and just an automated system against people who try to cheat the system by disconnecting at the right time

>>30510901
can confirm, the ban is stored in the save and loading a old save unbans you instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:00:21 No.30511285 Report

Quoted By: >>30511371

>>30510843
>spending real money on hacked pokemon when you could request someone to make a custom made one for free on a forum
what fools

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:00:32 No.30511292 Report

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>>30510934
the system IS supposed to be preventing all of that though, which is fine. seeing all of those people with the fucked up portraits & names on gen 6 gts was probably just as bad too. the effort to try to fix up the old glitches like the trade shit isn't unappreciated by most players, i'd reckon.

i just have an issue with this sort of shit happening to those who just want to play and are, more or less, innocent players. unfortunately, some of those guys who get into an issue (like i did} got their bans lasting for up to 3 days. it's really bullshit how those players get fucked over by the trade ban like that. customer service being unable to help sucks and, as far as i'm aware, they have not tried to come up with some sort of notification on one of their damn websites.

all of the bans i had so far were on the gts trying to select a generic breedject pokemon after picking someone else's breedject. an error about turning the power off popped up, which forced a reset. customer support basically tells players whom that happens to "tough luck" pretty much. time frame lasted around 30-60 minutes, which is considered lucky i guess.

with my dex complete, i don't have to worry about that shit as much anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:03:18 No.30511371 Report

Quoted By:

>>30511285
yep, they get suckered into those donation incentives & whatnot. it is probably the same sort of crowd that spend real money on ebay & amazon for hacked shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:03:37 No.30511379 Report

Quoted By: >>30511500

>yfw when you traded hacks to Wifi general and they did not know

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:07:06 No.30511500 Report

Quoted By:

>>30511379
lol whom

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:09:06 No.30511560 Report

Quoted By:

>>30510626
Didn't Nintendo say the DS wouldn't replace the GBA line?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:10:57 No.30511610 Report

Quoted By:

>>30508806
>all caps video titles full of exclamation points and question marks
>video thumbnails are oversaturated images with all caps writing in huge tacky font
Why is Pokemon youtube so terrible

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:12:17 No.30511645 Report

Quoted By: >>30512040

>>30508762
The post says people are being banned for random GTS trades or doing a lot of GTS trading completely unrelated to hacking, using legitimate pokemon.

Nobody gives a fuck what Verlisfy says. He's biased and has special interest in lying about what the post says.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:14:01 No.30511701 Report

Quoted By: >>30511766

>>30508762

Gee I wonder who's behind this post...?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:16:18 No.30511766 Report

Quoted By: >>30512280 >>30514173

>>30511701
IT WAS ME, DIO!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:25:29 No.30512040 Report

Quoted By: >>30512107

>>30511645
it's not the "a lot" of GTS trading part, I have a few thousand trades by now, sometimes 1 trade per minute for several hours. I got trade-ban exactly once when my whole wifi dropped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:27:55 No.30512107 Report

Quoted By: >>30512178

>>30512040
That's just a theory presented for why this could be.

Overall, my guess is that whatever code GF is using to detect and ban people over disconnects, is faulty and catching innocents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:30:12 No.30512178 Report

Quoted By:

>>30512107
idk, I feel like the connection to their servers is pretty wonky. I could stay online in ORAS with hours on end without a problem, but in SM my connection drops at least every hour at the same spot of my apartment. It's fine if I put the 3ds next to the router, but just one wall further and the connection becomes shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:32:12 No.30512243 Report

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>>30509025
Do you think if I could 1-v-1 him and his team of furries and BURASTO BAHN him, he'd finally shut up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:32:31 No.30512251 Report

Quoted By: >>30512316 >>30512974

>Gamefreak thinks people cheat by abusing disconnection during trades
are they stuck in Gen II or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:33:30 No.30512280 Report

Quoted By:

>>30511766
could this be a jojo reference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:34:40 No.30512316 Report

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>>30512251
I don't know, to be honest.

It seems they might be aware of an issue with their trading system that creates clones, but rather than fixing it before release they choose to not bother and instead ban the people who disconnect even though it can be due to shitty internet connectivity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:39:00 No.30512432 Report

Quoted By:

>>30508806
Titles in all caps catch people's attention. This is also why people put bright colors in their thumbnail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:49:17 No.30512713 Report

Quoted By: >>30512743

do I need to trash the 2 shiny dittos I got? I used the GTS to get a ditto for every nature and got 2 most likely hacked shiny ones in the process.

I probably won't even get rid of them though lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 00:50:58 No.30512743 Report

Quoted By:

>>30512713
No. This is a connectivity issue, not a hacking one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 01:01:47 No.30512974 Report

Quoted By:

>>30512251
that was a thing in gen6, too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 01:35:54 No.30513831 Report

Quoted By:

I mass-sent out eight boxes of cheatyface Ditto and haven't been banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 01:49:25 No.30514173 Report

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>>30511766
could this be the work of a funposter?

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