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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:30:27 No.30525655 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30525668 >>30525680 >>30525704 >>30525740 >>30525742 >>30525926 >>30525930 >>30526633

How do we fix it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:31:25 No.30525668 Report

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>>30525655
Dunno. 100 on all stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:31:39 No.30525672 Report

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Horn Leech

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:32:13 No.30525680 Report

Quoted By: >>30530821

>>30525655
dark type will probably be quite good.
He also learns parting shot but he's nopt quite fast enough to be fast and he can't really have an item

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:32:16 No.30525683 Report

Quoted By: >>30530593

>will probably be OU or UU

What's the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:32:26 No.30525687 Report

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Take 5 points from hp def and soec defense and add them to attack special att and speed
Hp: 90
Attack:100
Defense:90
Spec att:100
Spec def:90
Speed:100

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:34:09 No.30525704 Report

Quoted By: >>30525723 >>30525749 >>30525772 >>30525876

>>30525655
Don't bother, use Null with eviolite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:35:42 No.30525723 Report

Quoted By: >>30525749

>>30525704
muh movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:36:45 No.30525740 Report

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>>30525655
> Can change type with Z-crystals

There.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:37:02 No.30525742 Report

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>>30525655
make RKS system apply to Z-Crystals

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:37:31 No.30525749 Report

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Move tutors can give it everything it needs!
>pain split or synthesis
>superpower
>knock off
>earth power
>helping hand for doubles
>tailwind too because fuck Arceus gets it
>>30525704
>>30525723
Give him pain split, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:37:38 No.30525754 Report

Quoted By: >>30525769

Make the memories not shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:38:27 No.30525769 Report

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>>30525754
It hurts to remember

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:38:53 No.30525772 Report

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>>30525704
Damn I didn't even think of that.
Although the speed and movepool will definitely suffer.
Silvally can learn way more than Null unfortunately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:39:45 No.30525785 Report

Quoted By: >>30525805 >>30525806 >>30525810 >>30528786 >>30530593

>OU guaranteed
>THAT'S NOT ENOUGH

fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:40:05 No.30525788 Report

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>>30525772
I usually use slow mons anyway so this wouldn't be too much of a problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:40:13 No.30525790 Report

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Make his stats all 105
Make him be able to learn all TMs

S rank in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:40:39 No.30525793 Report

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BEST NATURE AND MOVESET FOR SILVALLY??????

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:41:07 No.30525805 Report

Quoted By: >>30525815 >>30525826

>>30525785
>ou guaranteed
It's going to be UU though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:41:13 No.30525806 Report

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>>30525785
It's not even getting an OU analysis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:41:30 No.30525810 Report

Quoted By: >>30525815 >>30525826 >>30525874

>>30525785
>OU guaranteed
It will end up in UU, no way it stays in OU for more than 2-3 months

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:41:59 No.30525815 Report

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>>30525806
>>30525805
>>30525810
screencapped for future hilarity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:42:36 No.30525826 Report

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>>30525805
>>30525806
>>30525810
rank 1000 and below shitters detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:44:29 No.30525858 Report

Quoted By: >>30525894 >>30525926

What set should I use on it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:45:26 No.30525873 Report

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>>30525826
>rank 1000 and below
But I have 1200 :^)
I know a thing or two about Pokeymanz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:45:26 No.30525874 Report

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>>30525810
It's gonna be one of those mons not strong enough to be banned from UU but still very useful in OU nonetheless because of unique gimmicks (Z-Parting shot, better coverage moves than Persian)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:45:37 No.30525876 Report

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>>30525704
Have you even looked at the difference in learnsets? Null is trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:46:15 No.30525883 Report

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>>30525790
>make it better Mew

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:46:58 No.30525894 Report

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>>30525858
Jolly max speed and attack
The move that changes tyoe
Parting shot
Then coverage moves

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:47:13 No.30525898 Report

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>>30525815

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:48:08 No.30525909 Report

Quoted By: >>30525922 >>30525923 >>30525925

>>30525898
>bruxish
>golisopod

literally fucking OU

why is smogon so retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:48:16 No.30525911 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBULmGH9R9Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:49:34 No.30525922 Report

Quoted By: >>30525953 >>30525996

>>30525909
What's even good about Primarina, It's a worse Tapu Fini

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:49:34 No.30525923 Report

Quoted By: >>30525953

>>30525909
>fish cucked by sharpedo
>muh emergency exit
Do you even competitive anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:49:40 No.30525925 Report

Quoted By: >>30525953

>>30525909
Heres your (Y[OU]) retart

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:49:44 No.30525926 Report

Quoted By: >>30526044

>>30525655
Give it a wider more expansive move pool including recovery options and utility.
Make it so the Memory items give an added bonus to STAB like the Plates do.
That's pretty much all it needs, really.

>>30525826
>>30525815
You're underestimating just how fucking strong, fast, and or bulky a mon needs to be to make OU. That's not even counting move pool or abilities.
This>>30525874 anon has the right idea.

>>30525858
Try here; the Explosion band set seems to the most interesting to me desu.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/silvally.3587391/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:49:53 No.30525930 Report

Quoted By: >>30525977

>>30525655

Give it an actual Special movepool so that stat isn't a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:50:49 No.30525953 Report

Quoted By: >>30525970 >>30525992

>>30525922
>>30525923
>>30525925
more screencaps

/vp/ is so predictable, this same pseudo intellectual predictions happened in gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:52:13 No.30525970 Report

Quoted By: >>30525981

>>30525953
But anon, (you) ARE /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:53:05 No.30525977 Report

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>>30525930
It gets boltbeamthrower and shadow ball, I guess it could use surf and psychic maybe, heck aura sphere, just give it all the ~90 bp special moves, all of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:53:26 No.30525981 Report

Quoted By: >>30526021

>>30525970
No I'm not. I was linked to this thread from nuggetbridge where people were mocking this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:54:26 No.30525992 Report

Quoted By: >>30526000

>>30525953
In the meantime you didn't replay with arguments

You just "hope" on someone discovering a possible way to use them in OU, but the probability to that happening is close to 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:54:28 No.30525994 Report

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>Memories/Z Crystals work like Arceus' plates, even if they're a little weaker (say 10% bonus instead of 20%)
>Give it EQ, Stone Edge, Calm Mind and Nasty Plot
>Expand its supportive options slightly (Wish, Will-O-Wisp)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:54:40 No.30525996 Report

Quoted By: >>30526486

>>30525922
they serve 2 different roles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:55:19 No.30526000 Report

Quoted By: >>30526026 >>30526044 >>30526045

>>30525992
sylvally/type:null will end up in OU and you will look back at this thread remembering how retarded you were

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:56:58 No.30526021 Report

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>>30525981
The moment you make a post it's already too late

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:57:16 No.30526026 Report

Quoted By: >>30526039

>>30526000
care to enlighten me with movesets, oh wise one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:57:56 No.30526039 Report

Quoted By: >>30526442 >>30526483

>>30526026
are you serious? it's carried by stats, not moveset

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:58:09 No.30526044 Report

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>>30526000
You haven't given any reasons why, though. All you've done is shit talked people who've said it'll be UU.
Give me some good points and I'll reconsider my stance >>30525926 on Silvally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:58:25 No.30526045 Report

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>>30526000
It kinda only has Z-Parting Shot, and then pick either special or physical coverage. It does that really well but it's kinda one-trick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 11:59:40 No.30526442 Report

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>>30526039
> it's carried by stats, not moveset
I got it, you have no clue what are you talking about

Return the play the main games anon, leave competitive for others

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:02:49 No.30526483 Report

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>>30526039
But it doesn't have good stats
It's not strong enough to sweep or wallbreak
It's not bulky enough to be a wall
It's not fast
The only thing going for it is that it doesn't have any terrible stats either
This is not enough to be an OU mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:03:13 No.30526486 Report

Quoted By: >>30526505 >>30526509 >>30526550

>>30525996
genuinely wanna know what Primarina does better. Spread status?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:04:53 No.30526502 Report

Quoted By: >>30526552 >>30526576 >>30526582 >>30526584 >>30526607 >>30526650 >>30526692 >>30526759 >>30529085 >>30529570 >>30531023

Come on guys, UU is an amazing tier. Why is everyone upset Silvally won't be top tier OU/Uber? Were you seriously expecting it would come even remotely close to that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:05:10 No.30526505 Report

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>>30526486
It hits harder. A lot harder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:05:23 No.30526509 Report

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>>30526486
Specs hydro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:08:18 No.30526550 Report

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>>30526486
not that anon, but Primarina is mostly for specs Hyper Voice Liquid Voice and coverage, while Tapu fini is a bulky tank which can defog or calm mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:08:32 No.30526552 Report

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>>30526502
I love these images.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:11:17 No.30526576 Report

Quoted By: >>30526610 >>30526614

>>30526502
>hydreigon
>conkeldurr
>metagross
>in uu
Wtf happened???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:11:46 No.30526582 Report

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>>30526502
>Hot dog
>bee right back
those are horrible puns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:11:58 No.30526584 Report

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>>30526502
Are there any images like that for tiers below UU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:13:57 No.30526607 Report

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>>30526502

Shit. I've bred up 14 on that list. I guess I love UU.

Sheer Force Gatr has always felt higher than UU to me, though. Weird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:14:06 No.30526610 Report

Quoted By: >>30526659

>>30526576
Power creep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:14:19 No.30526614 Report

Quoted By: >>30526659

>>30526576
Fairies, Bird Spam, and Ghost/Dark buffs respectively. Also speed creep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:15:54 No.30526633 Report

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>>30525655
New forme in remakes/stars/niji/gen8?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:17:45 No.30526650 Report

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>>30526502
>This is the power of the 「Steel Ball」

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:18:51 No.30526659 Report

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>>30526610
>>30526614
I skipped gen 6 entirely

Rip gen 5 kingz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:23:48 No.30526692 Report

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>>30526502
UU hass always been my favorite tier
Full of great Pokemon that are also usable in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:24:35 No.30526698 Report

Quoted By: >>30526730

What typing works best for him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:28:29 No.30526730 Report

Quoted By: >>30526814

>>30526698
Normal for Z-Parting Shot and the ability to use items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:31:24 No.30526758 Report

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Why the fuck are Elemental Memories in the game when Z-Crystals should do the exact same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:31:28 No.30526759 Report

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>>30526502
Love wrecking shit with iron tail on my Hydreigon. So predictable, and always 2HKOs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 12:36:25 No.30526814 Report

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>>30526730
I guess I'll do that then.
I was using Fairy up until now, but I've got Mimikyu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 15:16:19 No.30528786 Report

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>>30525785
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 15:20:52 No.30528872 Report

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Literally LITERALLY all it needs is good priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 15:22:22 No.30528890 Report

Quoted By: >>30528909

Modest or Adamant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 15:23:11 No.30528909 Report

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>>30528890
Hasty

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 15:30:28 No.30529061 Report

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True memory: An item only silvally can hold. Boosts the power of normal type moves by 50%. Level up while holding to learn extremespeed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 15:31:09 No.30529085 Report

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>>30526502

>Azelf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 16:00:24 No.30529570 Report

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>>30526502

>not "I heard U liek MURDER"
shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 16:56:29 No.30530593 Report

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>>30525683
>>30525785
How? 95's where it counts are eh and there's plenty of fighting moves for coverage to shit on him anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 16:59:38 No.30530659 Report

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Just been using the water variant as a wall, parting shot and thunder wave are great and all but he really needs something like Scald or aqua jet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 17:07:57 No.30530821 Report

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>>30525680
>he's nopt quite fast enough to be fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Dec 2016 17:16:47 No.30531023 Report

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>>30526502
>The majority of my favorite pokemon/waifus are in UU

At least its fun.

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