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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:40:28 No.30608210 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30608239 >>30608244 >>30608504 >>30608868 >>30609063 >>30609640

Are all the Ultra Beasts glass cannons?

>Playing OU
>Opponent sends out Celesteela
>Have out Gastrodon
>Hit it 3 times with Scald
>It dies

>Opponent sends out Pheromosa
>Have out Toxapex
>Use Scald
>It OHKO's without a crit

T-they can't seriously be this flimsy, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:41:18 No.30608239 Report

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>>30608210
MIN MAXING MOTHERFUCKER LOOK IT UP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:41:20 No.30608241 Report

Quoted By: >>30608288

>Hit it 3 times
>Glass cannon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:41:22 No.30608244 Report

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>>30608210
>Are all the Ultra Beasts glass cannons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:42:49 No.30608288 Report

Quoted By: >>30608558

>>30608241
For a pokemon hyped up to be as broken as it supposedly was, I was expecting more "broken-ness" from Celesteela. Not getting 3 shot by a staller.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:52:27 No.30608504 Report

Quoted By: >>30608575

>>30608210
a 252 sp atk ev modest gastrodon has a .1% chance of 3 shotting a 0 sp def ev, 252 hp ev neutral nature celesteela with scald.

your opponent might have been running some weird ass sweeping set, did they use automatize by chance?

pheromosa is that frail normally though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:54:32 No.30608558 Report

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>>30608288
0 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 0 HP / 252+ SpD Celesteela: 58-69 (17.3 - 20.5%) -- possible 5HKO
(58, 58, 60, 60, 60, 61, 61, 63, 63, 64, 64, 66, 66, 67, 67, 69)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:55:11 No.30608575 Report

Quoted By: >>30608635 >>30608760 >>30609055

>>30608504
Nope. And my setup with Gastrodon was 252 HP 244 Defense and 16 SpDef With an active Rain dance.

My opponent used Iron Defense like twice but that's for normal defense; not special. I have no idea what his stat was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:57:18 No.30608635 Report

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>>30608575
your opponent was just a shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:01:51 No.30608760 Report

Quoted By: >>30608842

>>30608575
>Iron Defense
Your opponent was literally just a shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:05:52 No.30608842 Report

Quoted By: >>30608966 >>30609134

>>30608760
I don't know man. Seems like Celesteela is pretty shit for getting dumped by a staller. The hype seems pretty unreal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:06:36 No.30608868 Report

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>>30608210
Pheromosa is literally mini-Deoxys-A.
Guzzlord is literally Chansey with an offensive Mew stapled to it.
Both Kartana and Buzzwole are Wurld of STR who don't believe in Special Stats.
Celesteela is literally Skarmory with Leech Seed, so no idea what his problem was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:10:42 No.30608966 Report

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>>30608842
No, you just fought against a shitter. If you honestly think 1 battle proves she's bad, you're a shitter too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:14:42 No.30609055 Report

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>>30608575
ok 0 investment gastrodon scald in the rain is a 50% chance to 3 hit ko for celesteela with max hp and no special defense investment.

I don't know what the best/common stat spread for celesteela is but it sounds like the main issue is your opponent was an idiot, since celesteela usually just leech seed/protects with the occasional max damage heavy slam or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:15:06 No.30609063 Report

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>>30608210
>Glass Cannon
>3 Hits
That not how that works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:18:13 No.30609134 Report

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>>30608842
>He doesn't know
>He hasn't dealt with a troll SubSeed with Roots set

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:41:22 No.30609640 Report

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>>30608210

>Three hits
>Glass cannon

Celesteel has 97/103/101 bulk, that's far from a glass cannon

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