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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:51:42 No.30608483 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30609378 >>30612327 >>30612891

>Hey John what should we do about the Pokemon distribution in Sun and Moon?
>Zubat, Meowth, Rattata, Diglett, Slowpoke, Magikarp. Put them everywhere.
>But John, we're celebrating 20 years of Pokemon, not just Kanto. What about the others?
>I don't know. Just put Wingull or Lillipup or something. Those are Pokemon, right?
>Okay. And what about the new Pokemon? Even if it is an anniversary title this is still a new generation in a new region.
>Yungoos.
>...That's it?
>That's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:53:50 No.30608539 Report

Quoted By: >>30608661 >>30609431

>hey john check out all these cool new pokemon designs we ma..
HIDE THEM IN RARE FISHING SPOTS WITH 1% ENCOUNTERS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:58:13 No.30608661 Report

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>>30608539
Or 5% encounters in semi-optional areas like trials after you've cleared them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 04:58:51 No.30608686 Report

Quoted By: >>30609628

>wahhh i have to look for rare pokemon wahhhhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:00:49 No.30608734 Report

Quoted By: >>30609313 >>30609454

For the first pokemon game that doesn't tie you to HM users, SM sure had a shit Pokémon selection. There were some standouts like Mudsdale, but team building was a little annoying at times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:26:56 No.30609313 Report

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>>30608734
This. I can't wait until bank's updated so I can grab random things I want to use rather than SM's piss-poor selection.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:29:51 No.30609378 Report

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>>30608483
I had a full Alolan party when I got to Akala.
How much of a shitter are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:32:56 No.30609431 Report

Quoted By: >>30609653 >>30609675 >>30609965 >>30610097

>>30608539
>OMG rare pokmeons are so hard to find!!!

I fucking hate this new generations of handholding babbies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:33:58 No.30609454 Report

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>>30608734
this is true. finding a non-physical pokemon i wanted to use was hard. of course finding something fast was also very hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:39:44 No.30609612 Report

Quoted By: >>30610004

This is one of the problems with having a limited amount of new Pokemon: you end up having to fall back on Pokemon players have been catching for over a decade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:40:40 No.30609628 Report

Quoted By: >>30609657 >>30609979

>>30608686
>pokemon native to a region are way, way rarer than the same common yard trash we've been catching for 20 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:41:06 No.30609636 Report

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>he thinks kakui was lying when he said the region is full of rare pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:41:55 No.30609653 Report

Quoted By: >>30609684

>>30609431

Or instead of shitposting you can apply some critical thinking or even a modicum of empathy and realize that having low encounter rates for all of the new pokemon make this game's pokemon variety feel really redundant from older gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:42:08 No.30609657 Report

Quoted By: >>30609912

>>30609628
>native means it's common
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:43:02 No.30609675 Report

Quoted By: >>30609713

>>30609431
It would be fine if this was the standard since Gen I. Pulling this, this late into the game, is bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:43:07 No.30609677 Report

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Maybe I just got lucky but by the second island the old old Pokemon still in my party was Metapod. Old Pokemon were common in the first few routes but I had no issue replacing them with new bros soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:43:23 No.30609684 Report

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>>30609653
The hard truth is most people outside of your /vp/ bubble don't mind playing with older Pokemon.

It's mostly a /vp/ thing to obsess over playing with only new pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:45:06 No.30609713 Report

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>>30609675
>I'd be okay with it if it was established as part of a pattern.

/vp/.txt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:55:46 No.30609912 Report

Quoted By: >>30610352

>>30609657
If nonnative species are more common in an environment than the species that actually evolved there that's a major problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:58:25 No.30609965 Report

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>>30609431

THERES TOO MANY OF THEM YOU FUCKING APOLOGIST!

NO ONE WANTS TO BE A SLAVE TO RNG WHEN IT COMES TO AS SIMPLE AS WANTING TH USE THE POKEMON YOU WANT IN A PLAYTHROUGH!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 05:59:07 No.30609979 Report

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>>30609628
It's Game Freak making an elaborate commentary on invasive species to try and do their part to save the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:00:12 No.30610004 Report

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>>30609612
Not really. All they had to do was not give half the new Pokemon 1%, 5%, and 10% encounter rates in very specific and limited locations. So people could, you know, actually encounter them without having to intentionally go out of their way and dig through piles of Magikarp and Meowth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:04:51 No.30610097 Report

Quoted By: >>30610189

>>30609431
>OMG wanting more than 8 pokemon to have a higher than 10% chance is handholding

I fucking hate the generation right after mine that decided that wanting things to be reasonable automatically meant that you were a whining baby that wanted their hand held.

These distributions are a fucking travesty of game design and you should feel bad for supporting them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:08:36 No.30610189 Report

Quoted By: >>30610247 >>30610266 >>30610764

>>30610097
>Travesty of game design
Pokemon always has and always will be about talking and meeting and sharing secrets and strategy with other people (and buying both versions to do so). Even Pokemon GO is full of this. It's why they keep so many secret mechanics to allow "depth". It started with Gen 1, ever heard of a popular pokemon called Dragonite? Any idea how dratini was found?

Your idea of game design is one that prioritizes convenience and immediate reward, the game's designers do not prioritize that over others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:11:47 No.30610240 Report

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Itt
Whiny kids that wants things handed to them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:12:13 No.30610247 Report

Quoted By: >>30610294 >>30610350

>>30610189
Nice assumption there, bro.

My concept of game design is one that doesn't force stupid RNG on me to artificially extend the lifetime of a game.

Having specific pokemon be found in specific locations is fine, but don't make Kangaskhan a literal 1% encounter rate in a single patch of grass. Make it 25% or something in a single patch of grass, or a 1% chance in a LOT of patches of grass.

Battle RNG is usually decent, but the more RNG non-battle mechanics use, the worse these games are. It was fine back when we couldn't do much better, but that we're 20 years of advancement in and we're still relying on the same stupid tricks is a sign that the studio doesn't deserve the popularity they have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:13:13 No.30610266 Report

Quoted By: >>30610428 >>30610764

>>30610189
I doubt they even know what's a safari zone
/vp/ is flooded with lazy millenials now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:14:37 No.30610294 Report

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>>30610247
That's the point, or else everyone would have the same snowflake Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:17:33 No.30610350 Report

Quoted By: >>30610399

>>30610247
You should really get the idea that old is bad out of your head, it's clouding your ability to make sound opinions. The people who came before you were a lot more intelligent than you think, and you lack enough knowledge to accurately judge that so you assume they weren't.

The pokedex will literally show you the patch of grass, you can even zoom in on it. It's added depth for those who choose to use it, meanwhile a normal player will never even tell the difference. It adds variety as well.

You can pretend that the RNG is bad, but it appeals to peoples brains. The grind is suffering, but then they get a large release of satisfaction when they achieve their goal. An addictive release. It's a game for children, but it happens to kids and adults.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:17:36 No.30610352 Report

Quoted By: >>30610837

>>30609912
Tell that to any SJW and send them into orbit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:19:25 No.30610399 Report

Quoted By: >>30610456

>>30610350
I've studied the psychology of game design, so I understand the satisfaction.

But "RNG isn't going my way" is NOT satisfaction. It's "Holy FUCK this shit FINALLY happened so I can do something ELSE that isn't a colossal waste of my time".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:21:07 No.30610428 Report

Quoted By: >>30610469 >>30610548

>>30610266

Pokemon's target audience was millennials from day one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:22:41 No.30610456 Report

Quoted By: >>30610488 >>30610613

>>30610399
That sounds like an abnormal personal problem. People get very excited when, for example, they grind out a very unlikely shiny, or finally catch that feebas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:23:19 No.30610469 Report

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>>30610428

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:24:17 No.30610488 Report

Quoted By: >>30610815

>>30610456
This, else why would you have shiny threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:27:15 No.30610548 Report

Quoted By: >>30610669 >>30610792

>>30610428
>from day one

yeah, no. not really. or else, things like breeding would be mind-numbingly easy now for you lazy bastards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:29:31 No.30610613 Report

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>>30610456
Shiny pokemon are not required to fill the dex. People would sing a much different tune if they were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:32:01 No.30610669 Report

Quoted By: >>30610684 >>30610787

>>30610548
I thought it's mind mumbling easy now, just have Tauros run in a circle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:32:50 No.30610684 Report

Quoted By: >>30610745

>>30610669
After you painstakingly get a Destiny knot and the correct hidden ability from chaining and a few perfect IV's to start off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:36:28 No.30610745 Report

Quoted By: >>30610769

>>30610684
I got destiny knot from a meowth, traded for some good IV and hidden abilities
There's like 5-10 threads here practically giving away these pokemons, what's the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:37:28 No.30610764 Report

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>>30610266
>>30610189
>safari zone
>patience
Were you even there? The only "secrets" we shared were how to cheat to get what we wanted. Visit papa missingno for the masterballs then force encounters with the surf trick. You aren't a real genwunner unless your hall of fame was beyond fucked up and your pokedex was full of lies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:37:35 No.30610769 Report

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>>30610745
They're all hacked.

So your argument is that if you cheat the game is mind-numbingly easy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:38:35 No.30610787 Report

Quoted By: >>30610860

>>30610669
Although it is, millenialfags still find something to complain about.

You just don't know what to say to them anymore

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:38:59 No.30610792 Report

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>>30610469
>>30610548

So which generation was RBY's audience? it sure as hell wasn't Gen X.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:39:55 No.30610815 Report

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>>30610488
Social anxiety, mild aspergers, too much free time, self esteem issues, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:41:12 No.30610837 Report

Quoted By: >>30610866

>>30610352
I think this is implying that people from different countries are different species. Congrats on dumbest post in the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:42:27 No.30610860 Report

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>>30610787
>pokemon fans are millennials and gen z jizz

Unless you were born before 1980 and played RBY when you were 20-25+

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 06:42:41 No.30610866 Report

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>>30610837
If you think that joke post is the dumbest, you haven't been reading the thread. Or are you competing for the spot with your own post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 08:10:11 No.30612327 Report

Quoted By:

>>30608483
>we're celebrating 20 years of Pokemon, not just Kanto
that is the biggest lie i've ever heard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 08:45:58 No.30612851 Report

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One of my favorite things to do is find those 1% pokemon. I understand why people would obviously hate this but for me pokemon is about catching pokemon and catching them is no fun if it's easy.

If all you care about is battling with whatever pokemon you want there is always showdown.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 08:47:25 No.30612891 Report

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>>30608483
HEY JOHN
i GOTTA HAVE A GOOD MEAL

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