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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 12:56:45 No.30615785 View View Reply Original Report

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Is Lillie basicaly the main character of Sun/Moon and you just do the dirty job?
>literally smd all over again but with worse plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 12:58:32 No.30615796 Report

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>>30615785
There can be more than one main characters, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 13:05:34 No.30615846 Report

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Yes, but I'd say it's necessary.
The protagonist is silent and a player insert, and while that works for games light on plot (Like most of the other Pokémon games), if you want a plot any deeper than than a puddle then it's basically required that you either have a non-player insert, non-silent protagonist or have other characters drive the plot instead. Sure, there are probably games that have managed it anyway, but GameFreak aren't skilled enough to pull that kind of thing off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 13:11:12 No.30615907 Report

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>>30615785
Stars will basically have the same plot, but you'll actually play as Lillie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 13:11:19 No.30615909 Report

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>>30615846
>not letting us to actually make choices and speak
>not making an actual rpg
I'd pay more for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 13:12:18 No.30615920 Report

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>>30615846
Dead Space managed this but that's not exactly a Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 13:14:25 No.30615937 Report

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>>30615907
>Stars
You're aware the Sun is a star right? If they're going to name the third game anything it will be named after Nebby.
Nebula

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 13:17:02 No.30615960 Report

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>>30615846
SMT and DQ disagree.
The secondary characters get the focus, but a silent protagonist still works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 13:29:22 No.30616134 Report

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>You pick your starter
>Hau has the pokemon weak to yours

>You reach the championship before him
>He challenges you, the champion

You're the rival.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 14:47:05 No.30617089 Report

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>>30615785

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 14:49:28 No.30617114 Report

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>>30615846
Final Fantasy protags aren't silent and contribute to the story

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 14:50:50 No.30617134 Report

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>>30616134

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 14:52:29 No.30617166 Report

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>>30615785
What the hell is smd?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 14:56:12 No.30617237 Report

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>>30617166
small mini dicks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 14:57:17 No.30617260 Report

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>>30617166
sick mega dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 15:47:04 No.30618004 Report

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>>30617166
suck my dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 15:59:20 No.30618165 Report

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>>30615846
>The protagonist is silent and a player insert
It's a relict of the late 90ies
Rockstar realised early that this doesn't work well, so we got Tommy and CJ instead.
GameFreak on the other hand stubbornly holds on it as if their life depended on it.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 16:08:14 No.30618299 Report

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>>30615785
>gives nebby to you because she's not a trainer so she can't give nebby the thrill of battling
>outright says that she's going to be a trainer in Kanto
10/10 writing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 16:27:42 No.30618612 Report

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Lillie was supposed to be the main heroine character like Yuna from Final Fantasy, which is basically a co-protagonist. The only reason she "took over" was because they forgot to give MC relevance. The main issue was basically that the entire third act was about saving Lusamine and Nebby so it was 100% about Lillie; ideally, they would have kept Lusamine a threat and make the third act about saving Alola/the world so that MC has a reason to tag along with her beyond "because Lillie is cute, I guess".

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 17:10:49 No.30619494 Report

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>>30617166
Ampharos's game

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:23:17 No.30620666 Report

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>>30615785
Worst character in the series. Mainly because she won't shutup and GF can't even into character growth stories. Even when they are simple and safe as all fuck.

Loved how instead of showing her growth throughout the game they just put her on a bus and imply that its going to happen later offscreen, which makes me wonder why the fuck did she railroad me the whole game just for no pay off.

shoutouts to rotomdex for only existing to railroad you from cutscene to cutscene. really like how useless he became once there were no more cutscenes. why'd they get rid of pss for this shit?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:27:07 No.30620741 Report

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>>30615785
Except my partner is cuter than Lillie

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:28:03 No.30620763 Report

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>>30615785
>what is a coprotagonist

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:32:47 No.30620861 Report

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>>30618612
>not wanting to save your waifu from her evil mother

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:41:23 No.30621035 Report

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>>30615960
Speaking of SMT, is it better than FF?

I need to play one of either but feel I'd enjoy SMT more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:45:36 No.30621121 Report

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>>30615785
Not really, the majority of the game are unrelated Team Skull stuff and trials,really the last 1/4 max is actually Lillie related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:48:47 No.30621182 Report

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>>30621035
SMT will probably feel more familiar to you because most entries revolve around recruiting and fusing demons. There's a lot of good places to start, I'd personally recommend Digital Devil Saga or Devil Survivor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 18:49:03 No.30621188 Report

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>>30615846
I think they could do it. In this game you were given more "dialogue" choices than other games. Maybe Gamefreak could pull off a story with a bunch of different dialogue based on what you say and have it carry on until the end of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 20:40:24 No.30623615 Report

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>>30615785
lillie is a ultra bag

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Anonymous Thu 08 Dec 2016 20:44:18 No.30623700 Report

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>>30618165
Because it's a game for children about catching and battling pokemon. Your character needs to be empty for the kids to project onto and to appeal to the widest demographic possible.

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