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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:38:05 No.30673542 View View Reply Original Report

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What did Gamefreak mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:39:26 No.30673573 Report

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>>30673542
Better than Tierno

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:39:27 No.30673574 Report

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>>30673542
it's a fucking team you retarded fuck. how autistic are you to ask this on /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:39:33 No.30673576 Report

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>>30673542
>horsecock-addict loli uses a shitty team with the meme dragon
??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:39:43 No.30673581 Report

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>>30673542
I want Hapu to tie me up and force his Mudsdale to rape my ass

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:42:29 No.30673636 Report

Quoted By: >>30673975

>Play with Exp. Share off so underleveled
>No Grass-type in party
>Her fucking Gastrodon stalls me all day

FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:43:54 No.30673671 Report

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>Mega Flygon N E V E R: The team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:44:37 No.30673688 Report

Quoted By: >>30673703 >>30673742

Why is the difficulty spike so massive once you reach Poni Island? Even with Tsareena, Hapu wrecked my shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:44:42 No.30673690 Report

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>>30673542

M E M E

H O R S E

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:45:40 No.30673703 Report

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>>30673688
because Tsareena is shit! SHIIIIIIIIIT!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:46:32 No.30673724 Report

Quoted By: >>30678087

>>30673542
That she is very down to earth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:47:15 No.30673742 Report

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>>30673688
Seriously. I beat the skull brigade without issue but this tiny little girl literally eviscerated my team like no ones business with no exp share on. That fucking horse man

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:50:01 No.30673787 Report

Quoted By: >>30673841 >>30673852 >>30674084

>>30673542
>yfw they do these 2/3 move sets just to make sure the dumbfuck ai uses the right moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:50:45 No.30673803 Report

Quoted By: >>30674084

>>30673542
If you're complaining about the moves, its normally to keep the AI in line. Now better AI would be ideal, but in the mean time I'll take sets like this that least attack with a semblance of reason instead of buffing/debuffing while they're being KO'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:51:33 No.30673817 Report

Quoted By: >>30674084 >>30682127

Would Flygon even have any reason to use a move that wasn't Earth Power/DragonBreath?

It's not like Tierno who made his Pokemon only know one/two moves for a shitty gimmick, Flygon has everything it needs since it should hit most everything but Ribombee at least neutrally. 2 moves was probably an insurance plan that the AI only used it's strongest STABs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:52:14 No.30673829 Report

Quoted By: >>30678174

Honestly, she caught me off-guard first by being 5 levels above my team and starting off with a Dugtrio. Had to soft-reset when my panda got rekt against it due to Sand Veil making it miss three times.

Second time I had less accuracy hax and won fairly easily. I don't get why people complain about how difficult her Mudsdale is, just use a Special move. If you've got only physical attackers, then yes, you deserve to lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:53:03 No.30673841 Report

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>>30673787
this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:53:22 No.30673852 Report

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>>30673787
>can make the AI read your inputs and act accordingly in Battle Facilities
>can't make the AI use moves properly outside of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:58:59 No.30673962 Report

Quoted By: >>30674051 >>30678377

>>30673742

If you want to be underleveled you also have to know how to build a proper team.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 17:59:22 No.30673975 Report

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>>30673636
>mfw screech + bullet seed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 18:00:12 No.30674000 Report

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>>30673542
The Dugtrio and Mudsdale don't look too bad but what the fuck is with the others?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 18:01:55 No.30674051 Report

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>>30673962
Not that anon, but going through this game with an underlevelled, lopsided team of mostly physicals with little coverage has been damn fun. I prefer it when I lose the odd big fight and can come back for another go, but perhaps thats just me. Sure I could build a team with total coverage and an answer to every situation, but thats what online play/showdown is for, in game I just throw together whatever I like and have at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 18:02:57 No.30674084 Report

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>>30674000

see

>>30673803
>>30673817
>>30673787

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 18:13:28 No.30674357 Report

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>>30674051
You don't need "total coverage" or whatever shit you are spouting, just have fucking set up moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 18:18:43 No.30674500 Report

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>give flygon dragon dance
>give the flygon user a special flygon without dragon dance
why tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 18:31:47 No.30674818 Report

Quoted By: >>30675686 >>30675769

>>30673542
do they give these things two moves so their ai doesn't ever fuck up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:09:47 No.30675686 Report

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>>30674818
Yup

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:13:24 No.30675764 Report

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>>30673542
The only trainer who ever wrecked me. I learned very quickly that all but one of my then-current team members was weak to steel/ground coverage and the one that wasn't was 10 levels under Dugtrio and slower, so my shit got rekt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:13:42 No.30675769 Report

Quoted By: >>30675820 >>30677974 >>30679930

>>30674818
Yeah. The better question is: why the fuck is the AI so bad to begin with?

Do any Pokemon games even have good AI? I'd say Platinum but the AI in that game acts really fucking stupid sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:15:23 No.30675802 Report

Quoted By: >>30675824 >>30678039

>>30673975
This

Also, Grass know Alakasam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:16:19 No.30675820 Report

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>>30675769
SM has better AI than average since trainers switch much more often, it's not perfect though.
>Do any Pokemon games even have good AI?
They up the AI for things like the Battle Tree/Tower/Frontier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:16:24 No.30675824 Report

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>>30675802
>know
Knot* fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:27:34 No.30677526 Report

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>>30673542
EYEBROWS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:30:41 No.30677594 Report

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>>30673542
>Sticky Hold Gastrodon
>no held item

>Special Flygon even when it got Dragon Dance
>100 Attack vs. 80 Sp. Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:46:44 No.30677974 Report

Quoted By: >>30678047

>>30675769
Aren't standard trainers basically just on a roulette system with all their move choices being randomised, then Kahunas and other special trainers are just the same but with the ability to use items when conditions are met?

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:49:22 No.30678039 Report

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>>30675802
>Grass Know
>Alakasam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:49:33 No.30678047 Report

Quoted By: >>30678101

>>30677974
Move choices are usually determined by how much damage their attacks are calculated to do. Some will prioritise status/support moves too. It's why Kukui's Lycanroc usually just sets up rocks if it won't OHKO/2HKO. He actually has the best AI in the game I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:50:49 No.30678066 Report

Quoted By: >>30678083

>>30673542
That Flygon sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:51:44 No.30678083 Report

Quoted By: >>30678268

>>30678066
>Flygon sucks
FTFY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:51:57 No.30678087 Report

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>>30673724
>levitate
Kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:52:25 No.30678096 Report

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>>30673542
I just beat Hapu last night. Fun fight. Although I wish kahunas were more than just "get one Pokemon to tank the Z-move, then you're good to go". Mimikyu is basically built to fuck Z-moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:52:38 No.30678101 Report

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>>30678047
That's interesting, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I knew that the special trainers (gym leaders in past gens, kahunas, etc.) had special AI but didn't think this applied to randoms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:56:23 No.30678174 Report

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>>30673829
You had to reset yourself, so you don't get to complain about complainers. Besides, no one is "complainig" just because they say "Holy shit, rekt me at first 2bh!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 21:00:20 No.30678268 Report

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>>30678083
Did you?

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 21:03:17 No.30678325 Report

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>>30673542
I want to Heavy Slam Hapu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 21:05:54 No.30678377 Report

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>>30673962
Whatever. I had fun and won in the end. I enjoy being pushed to my limit instead of cruising through without issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 21:10:09 No.30678485 Report

Quoted By: >>30681619

>>30673542
What is it with GameFreak giving Pokemon movesets that go of their weaker attacking stat?

It's not smart, unpredictable or whatever, it's just fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 22:09:48 No.30679930 Report

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>>30675769

>Do any Pokemon games even have good AI?
Colosseum and Gale of Darkness

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:06:18 No.30681368 Report

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>>30673852
>Wants every NPC to cheat

No, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:07:32 No.30681412 Report

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>>30673542
Gamefreaks wants to show, how dumb you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:15:58 No.30681619 Report

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>>30678485
It's for coverage. They always have at least one move that works off of their strong attack stat, generally the strongest available. Which is all you really need. The other moves are then used to exploit different type advantages so the pokemon is at least a fair bit more effective at dealing with more different types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:33:50 No.30682127 Report

Quoted By: >>30682219

>>30673817
I just don't see why not give him better moves? Dragon Dance + EQ would be tons better, it's weird that they gave this Flygon only Special moves when it has a higher base attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:36:50 No.30682219 Report

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>>30682127
Meant to say Dragon claw not dragon dance!

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