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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:54:58 No.30676719 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30676753 >>30676767 >>30676780 >>30676870

Would it still be equal to Primal Kyogre?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:56:02 No.30676753 Report

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>>30676719
It's already the better Primal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:56:38 No.30676767 Report

Quoted By: >>30676912 >>30676960 >>30678770 >>30680430

>>30676719
>equal to Primal Kyogre

It's already leagues better than Kyogre, and good thing too, it keeps the tradition that the first version legendary is more viable than the cuckold noncanon second version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 19:57:34 No.30676780 Report

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>>30676719
If you mean "replace Precipice Blades with Solar Blade" then maybe, but you need a good nerf for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:01:33 No.30676870 Report

Quoted By: >>30677085

>>30676719
It's literally a thousand times better than primal kyogre if you haven't existed for the last three years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:03:15 No.30676912 Report

Quoted By: >>30676955 >>30677000 >>30677001 >>30677019 >>30677289 >>30681407

>>30676767
Lugia, Lunala and Zekrom are better than their counterparts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:05:28 No.30676955 Report

Quoted By: >>30676995 >>30677017

>>30676912
>lugia
debatable

>lunala
Also debatable but it looks like Lunala's winning

>Zekrom
100%. For reshiram, wasting away in D rank.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:05:33 No.30676960 Report

Quoted By: >>30677000

>>30676767
>keeps the tradition that the first version legendary is more viable than the cuckold noncanon second version.

Uhuh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:07:01 No.30676995 Report

Quoted By: >>30677060

>>30676955

Zekrom's advantage is that his Kyurem fusion has a shit movepool where as Kyurem-W is purely a better Reshiram.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:07:12 No.30677000 Report

Quoted By: >>30677046 >>30677283

>>30676912
>>30676960
>implying Moon isn't the canon version

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:07:25 No.30677001 Report

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>>30676912
Xerneas. Also wasn't Ho-oh much better in ORAS ubers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:07:53 No.30677017 Report

Quoted By: >>30677090

>>30676955
what does solgaleo even do other than checking xerneas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:07:54 No.30677019 Report

Quoted By: >>30677060

>>30676912
No way is lugia better than ho-oh. Banded sacred fire is just too good. They do different things, but ho-oh does its nuke thing better than lugia does its stall thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:08:59 No.30677046 Report

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>>30677000
>Reading comprehension is hard

Moon isn't the first version. If it is "canon" or not doesn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:09:25 No.30677060 Report

Quoted By: >>30677192

>>30676995
Kyurem aside, Zekrom has a unique STAB combination that hits everything but Primal Groudon hard and sits at a decent ranking.

>>30677019
I think they're talking about it in terms of ubers viability rather than comparing their sweeping capabilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:10:15 No.30677085 Report

Quoted By: >>30677122

>>30676870
> It started to rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:10:33 No.30677090 Report

Quoted By: >>30677537

>>30677017
Lunala is outclassed by every offensive Psychic and Ghost in the tier, at least Solgaleo does it's job pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:11:43 No.30677122 Report

Quoted By: >>30677175

>>30677085
And then it gets 2HKOed by 0 Atk Precipice blades after sneaky pebbles and can't switch in again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:13:58 No.30677175 Report

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>>30677122
Origin Pulse. Hell, Waterfall would OHKO Groudon without investments under normal weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:14:40 No.30677192 Report

Quoted By: >>30677264

>>30677060
>I think they're talking about it in terms of ubers viability rather than comparing their sweeping capabilities.
Ho-oh is still more viable than Lugia.

Nice try, furfags.

Ho-oh WON.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:16:56 No.30677264 Report

Quoted By: >>30677389

>>30677192
>lugia
>furry

>>30677192
0 Atk Kyogre-Primal Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Groudon-Primal: 328-388 (81.3 - 96.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

uh huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:17:30 No.30677283 Report

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>>30677000
I wish anon, but fatshitsunlion is the canon nebby

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:17:35 No.30677289 Report

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>>30676912
>lugia
nope
>lunala
both are shit
>zekrom
only because kyurem-white exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:20:03 No.30677335 Report

Quoted By: >>30680717

Ho-oh > Lugia
Groudon > Kyogre
Dialga > Palkia
Reshiram < Zekrom
Black Kyurem < White Kyurem
Xerneas > Yveltal
Solgaleo < Lunala

So, first version legends are typically better. Second versions still beat them with Gens V and VII.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:22:00 No.30677389 Report

Quoted By: >>30677445

>>30677264
>Under normal Weather and using a Modest Nature Kyogre

0- Atk Kyogre-Primal Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Groudon-Primal: 436-520 (108.1 - 129%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:24:15 No.30677445 Report

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>>30677389
Well shit. Wrong calculations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 20:27:57 No.30677537 Report

Quoted By: >>30680818

>>30677090
>Lunala is outclassed by every offensive Psychic and Ghost in the tier

It's funny how wrong you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 21:21:30 No.30678770 Report

Quoted By: >>30679708

>>30676767
>676767
Anyway, like other anons said, +they forgot xerneas geomancy fucking everything, meanwhile yveltal does... what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 22:00:56 No.30679708 Report

Quoted By: >>30681128

>>30678770
Hit fucking hard with one of the most busted priority attacks in the game and just became more viable now that Darkrai fucked off in a corner

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 22:29:03 No.30680430 Report

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>>30676767
Except White is more canon than Black

Most non-game depictions of N give him Reshiram

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 22:40:13 No.30680717 Report

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>>30677335
>Dialga > Palkia
Both are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 22:43:40 No.30680818 Report

Quoted By: >>30681948

>>30677537
>gives no proof of said statement

Kek. KEK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 22:55:40 No.30681128 Report

Quoted By: >>30681310

>>30679708
It also has Foul Play and Oblivion Wing, Xerneas is better since Geomancy is busted but it's a one trick pony. Also, why didn't Darkrai drop, Genesect is now better than it and it dropped

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:04:03 No.30681310 Report

Quoted By: >>30682746

>>30681128
Couldn't tell you about Genesect, but Darkrai's still busted as it still has ways of fucking with its counters (such as Taunt, Will-o-Wisp or coverage attacks outside of Sludge Bomb) and unlike Greninja it doesn't need a gimmick ability to hit harder and faster right off the bat.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:07:26 No.30681407 Report

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>>30676912
Zekrom is the canon legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:27:32 No.30681948 Report

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>>30680818
It shouldn't need explaining.
She hits hard through high special attack, excellent coverage due to good special movepool, good bulk especially if you manage to use Shadow Shield and can handle anything other than bulky Yveltal and Arceus Dark. Great scarf user too due to ignoring Extreme Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2016 23:56:59 No.30682746 Report

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>>30681310
I always forget it gets good status moves due to its stat distribution. I've always wondered if Spacial Rend was any good on it, since I have a Timid event one in my Pearl cart

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