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>>30707441
The real answer to this is because most people would rather use something that has been tested and used and shown to be effective than try to make their bros viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:10:12 No.30707614 Report

Quoted By: >>30707657

>>30707586
Who is that spread meant to take on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:11:53 No.30707657 Report

Quoted By: >>30707722 >>30707752 >>30707760

>>30707614
This spread is guaranteed to live LO garchomp's earthquake then get a ko after ice fang/quick attack. This is also a solid check to toxapex.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:14:24 No.30707722 Report

Quoted By: >>30707752 >>30707972 >>30709587

>>30707657
>quick attack on anything other than M-Pinsir

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:15:29 No.30707752 Report

Quoted By: >>30707822

>>30707722

Read>>30707657

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:15:41 No.30707760 Report

Quoted By: >>30707823 >>30710296

>>30707657
>-1 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Luxray: 296-351 (89.6 - 106.3%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
?

Dies after Rough Skin or just Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:18:08 No.30707822 Report

Quoted By: >>30707904

>>30707752
...that was literally the post i was responding to?
what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:18:15 No.30707823 Report

Quoted By: >>30707947

>>30707760
Set the level to 50 then add intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:20:55 No.30707891 Report

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>>30707441
Used one back in gen 4. Sadly the physical Electric type meme just doesn't work, especially with Luxrays piss poor coverage options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:21:34 No.30707904 Report

Quoted By: >>30707972

>>30707822
Quick attack is for a guaranteed ko on Garchomp if ice fang doesn't KO. Having a priority move on a slow mon is useful for certain situations, this mon doesn't have the most diverse move pool either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:23:41 No.30707947 Report

Quoted By: >>30708073

>>30707823
>-1 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Luxray: 151-182 (88.8 - 107%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:24:28 No.30707972 Report

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>>30707904

>>30707722

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:26:51 No.30708026 Report

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>>30707441
because it's fucking garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:28:44 No.30708061 Report

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>>30707441
Emolga is a better niche electric type when paired with Alola Marowak

nuzzle, air slash (not released yet)/thunderbolt, Baton Pass and Encore are great to shut down Koko and Xurkitre. Or counter their counters after getting them stuck on EQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:29:16 No.30708073 Report

Quoted By: >>30710296

>>30707947
1 252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Luxray: 116-140 (68.2 - 82.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

You're right. Seems almost impossible to avoid the OHKO entirely if garchomp is holding a life orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:34:53 No.30708205 Report

Quoted By: >>30708378 >>30708950

MUXW-WWWW-WWW2-RT3E

From what I've seen its been doing pretty well in battle, getting a volt-switch into gyrados pretty much assures the opponent will switch after 2 intimidates, you can then DD and sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:42:23 No.30708378 Report

Quoted By: >>30708416 >>30708424

>>30708205
where am I supposed to input this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:44:10 No.30708416 Report

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>>30708378
You go into festival plaza, then go into the castle and select the battle video option from the computer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:44:40 No.30708424 Report

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>>30708378
X --> Battle Recorder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:57:22 No.30708736 Report

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>>30707441
>>30707508
>>30707535
I'm sorry OP.
I love Luxray's design a lot... a lot a lot (really really like the shiny male)
But... it just isn't good enough, and there are other (better) mono-electrics that do their job better.
With a bit of tweaking to its BST + maybe the addition of a move tutor move or two, it could be really good... but as is... Sorry, but no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:59:45 No.30708802 Report

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>luxray
>running
you mean walking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 22:59:59 No.30708803 Report

Quoted By: >>30709079

Because I don't have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:06:05 No.30708950 Report

Quoted By: >>30709057

>>30708205
>Opponent's garchomp used rock tomb
This proves Luxray's superiority!

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:07:31 No.30708986 Report

Quoted By: >>30710226

I'm running an Electric Silvally which does the same job a lot better since it gets Swords Dance and has the same bulk without an Assault Vest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:10:12 No.30709057 Report

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>>30708950
That was because he mis-predicted. Still got the OHKO from luxray.

This video is a better example of its usefulness.

68TG-WWWW-WWW2-S2SW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:11:17 No.30709079 Report

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>>30708803
I can trade you a luxio with egg moves if you want one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:12:25 No.30709108 Report

Quoted By: >>30709173

>>30707508
Because he likes the pokemon, maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:15:07 No.30709173 Report

Quoted By: >>30709323

>>30709108
I like Scyther.
If I brought a Scyther to a Pokémon tournament, I would be laughed out the door.
Sorry, anon, but like =/= usefulness.
If we were talking about playing the base game, then go ham and use your favorites.
Unfortunately competitive doesn't work like that...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:20:52 No.30709323 Report

Quoted By: >>30709438 >>30709447 >>30710154

>>30709173
Then how do you explain Pachirisu winning a VGC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:21:47 No.30709336 Report

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>>30707441

Because Luxray kinda sucks, thats why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:24:16 No.30709379 Report

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>>30707441
If you're asking about VGC, it's because VGC rules say Alola Dex only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:27:04 No.30709438 Report

Quoted By: >>30709521

>>30709323

Because everyone went in prepared for Amoongus because of Amoongus bullshit duing 2011 and 2012, and Pachirisu just happened to have just the right amount of stuff with the Kalos Dex being just there right about of mons that led to victory. Plus it was more of the fact that Megados won VGC but of course no one will ever say that cause Gyarados was OU prior to Gen 6.

In a meta with all 721, there are way more pokemon that could do what Pachirisu did in 2013 and do it a hellva lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:27:29 No.30709447 Report

Quoted By: >>30709521

>>30709323
Niche mon that fulfilled a specific role the dude wanted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:30:26 No.30709521 Report

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>>30709447
Right.. so what's your point?

>>30709438
If you really wanted to run a scyther you could do the calcs and find a spread that works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:33:36 No.30709587 Report

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>>30707722
>not knowing about quick attack sylveon from vgc last year
it was great

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:34:02 No.30709599 Report

Quoted By: >>30709675 >>30709706

>>30707441
Minior used Earthquake!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:37:29 No.30709675 Report

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>>30709599
>non-stab attack
>fully evolved pokemon
>using this meme on a pokemon without a quad weakness
sm really brought in the newfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:38:31 No.30709706 Report

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>>30709599
1 252+ Atk Minior Earthquake vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Luxray: 56-66 (32.9 - 38.8%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO

252+ Atk Luxray Wild Charge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Minior: 162-192 (120 - 142.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:56:12 No.30710154 Report

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>>30709323
Because Korean esports.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2016 23:58:36 No.30710226 Report

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>>30708986
>doesn't get intimidate
>can't hold an item
>doesn't get volt-switch

It might be better for pure offense but can't pivot like luxray, which is what this set does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 00:01:31 No.30710296 Report

Quoted By: >>30710475

>>30708073
>>30707760
Not that anon, but...
>-1 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 116 HP / 132 Def Luxray: 112-135 (65.8 - 79.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
you're both forgetting Earthquake only does 80% damage output in doubles.

and...
>252+ Atk Luxray Ice Fang vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Garchomp: 160-192 (87.4 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
heh, he's right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 00:09:37 No.30710475 Report

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>>30710296
The absolute madman.

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