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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:33:06 No.30717223 View View Reply Original Report

I think earthquake is more effective but my autism won't let me run it over bonemerang. How can I overcome this? What set do you use for this Pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:34:22 No.30717256 Report

Quoted By: >>30717347 >>30717410

>>30717223
The same thing happened to me, my autism can´t let me use earthquake on Mudsdale instead of High Horsepower

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:36:12 No.30717303 Report

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Bonemerang is probably better because EQ does half damage in Grassy Terrain. Also Bonemerang gets through subs. Let your autism be relieved

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:36:51 No.30717318 Report

Quoted By: >>30721248 >>30725440

>>30717223
bonerang breaks subs/sash/sturdy, technically sometimes has higher damage rolls, and isn't affected by grassy terrain, which is why it's on the smogon analysis for marowak in gen6

this isn't likely to change for gen 7 especially with tapu bulu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:37:28 No.30717341 Report

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Just give earthquake to someone else on your team. Get a dugtrio or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:37:51 No.30717347 Report

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>>30717256
High Horsepower and Bonemerang aren't affected by Grassy Terrain and don't have to be worked around in Doubles, so both are good alternatives based on the situation.
Also, Bonemerang cuts through Sturdy/Sash/Disguise and Substitute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:38:59 No.30717368 Report

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>>30717223
>I think earthquake is more effective

it's not though. bonemerang is actually better because of how common grassy terrain is. Breaking sashes and subs is a bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:39:27 No.30717376 Report

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I have similar predicament. Metagross has a unique EQ animation so I feel like I'm "supposed" to use EQ on it, even though it has other coverage options and I have another teammate with EQ.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:40:49 No.30717410 Report

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>>30717256
just stick with bonemerang
you miss then you miss its just apart of the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:40:59 No.30717418 Report

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>>30717223

bonemerang is better because it breaks subs and is stronger in grassy terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:41:03 No.30717419 Report

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>>30717223
Earthquake gets cucked by Bulu and can't hit through Disguise/Sub
Literally original Marowak's niche for the last few gens has been hitting shit hard and not being stopped by subs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:43:44 No.30717486 Report

Quoted By: >>30717513 >>30717540

>>30717223
Isn't Bone Rush better than Bonemerang anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:44:58 No.30717513 Report

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>>30717486
Only if it hits 4-5 times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:46:25 No.30717540 Report

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>>30717223
Bonemerang doesn't get nerfed by Tapu Bulu's ability. EQ is inferior in everyway.
>>30717486
If Marowak had Skill Link, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:48:01 No.30717585 Report

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>>30717223

Bonemerang does the same damage, and isn't fucked over by Grassy Terrain.

The only drawback is the 90% accuracy, but it's worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 04:52:35 No.30717690 Report

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>>30717223
>Breaks through subs, disguise, focus sash, sturdy, multiscale, and shadow shield.
>Doesn't get screwed over by grassy terrain
>Only drawback is that it has 90% accuracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 05:37:02 No.30718747 Report

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>>30717223
Don't sweat it, bonemerang is better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 05:47:15 No.30719032 Report

Quoted By: >>30719291 >>30719598 >>30721298

How is this?

Thicc Club
Careful
Lightning Rod
Bonemarang
Shadow Bone
Flare Blitz
Will-o-Wisp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 05:57:48 No.30719291 Report

Quoted By: >>30719458 >>30720286

>>30719032
I prefer Adamant. And if you wanna use flare blitz go for rock head instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:05:38 No.30719458 Report

Quoted By: >>30719735 >>30720286

>>30719291
Thick Club makes up for Careful nature and Lighting Rod Shuts down Top Kek and Xurkitree

But yea he should replace Flare Blitz

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:11:50 No.30719598 Report

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>>30719032
This is what im using but adament and earthquake.
Earthquake not hitting twice like bonemerang has cost me some battles but it does its job most of the time.
But lightning rod is way to good to give up for a switch into a thunder wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:15:33 No.30719653 Report

Quoted By: >>30719980 >>30720028 >>30722463

>>30717223
So is this the basic set for A-Marowak
@Thicc Club
Adamant
Shadow Bone
Bonemerang
Will-o-wisp
Flame Charge/Fire Punch (which one is better?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:21:34 No.30719735 Report

Quoted By: >>30720193

>>30719458
But the special defense of marowak it's rather mediocre and being weak to ghost and dark which are mainly special attacks I wouldn't use it with a careful nature, Also it's slow so you have to hit and kill. I haven't got in many battles this generation so don't trust me very much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:25:10 No.30719796 Report

Quoted By: >>30720078

I use one on AG and passed it evasion and speed
Adamant @thicc club
Lighting rod evs on hp and attack
Belly drum
Shadow bone
Bonemerang
Fire punch
Maybe I can try a more defensive ev spread but not sure what

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:34:26 No.30719980 Report

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>>30719653

flareblitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:36:41 No.30720028 Report

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>>30719653
@Thick Club
Adamant
Shadow Bone
Bonemerang
Flame Charge
Flare Blitz

This is how I run mine, hasn't dissapointed.
Except for those really unfortunate Bonemerang misses of course, I'm seriously considering dropping the meme for another move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:37:19 No.30720042 Report

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>>30717223

>not running bonemerang to deal with this sub tail glowing faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:38:18 No.30720078 Report

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>>30719796
he's way too slow to get away with a belly drum, even passing it speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:44:37 No.30720193 Report

Quoted By: >>30720465

>>30719735
Yeah but he resists so much. He resists Fairy, Steel, Fire, Posion, Grass which all tend to be special. Investing in his SpD makes sure that he shuts down threats like 3/4ths of the tapus and stuff like magnezone/magnearna or salazzale.

Besides thicc club really makes your Atk overkill. You don't need to put all your EV's into Atk to one shot things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:49:54 No.30720286 Report

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>>30719291
>>30719458
What to replace Flare Blitz with? Flame Charge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 06:54:41 No.30720365 Report

Quoted By: >>30720465 >>30721017

So give me the run down: Careful or Adamant? EV spreads?

Can a SpD focused Marowak still bring enough damage threat to be useful and slap around Tapus and UBs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:00:01 No.30720465 Report

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>>30720193
I see your point. I try some battles simulations to see how it is

>>30720365
As long as you give it the t-tick bone it will hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:01:58 No.30720512 Report

Quoted By: >>30721035

How many attack can an uninvestment Marowak can get with the thick club?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:34:52 No.30721017 Report

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>>30720365
Yes, in fact that is the recommended type of marowak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:36:02 No.30721035 Report

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>>30720512
I've invested only 16 EVs into attack to get it over 400.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:38:08 No.30721076 Report

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I feel like they should've given Boomerang the same treatment as Freeze Dry and made it SE against flying types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:44:13 No.30721176 Report

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>bonemerang STILL can't hit flying types

Get your shit together GameFreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:49:27 No.30721248 Report

Quoted By: >>30722112

>>30717318
This. The advantages of Bonemarang make up for the accuracy hit, if only because Tapu Bulu is now a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:52:15 No.30721298 Report

Quoted By: >>30728028

>>30719032
I'd go Adamant or Impish. You can invest EV's in Special Def, but the stat is too low to really benefit from a nature. Remember that Nature bonuses are more valuable on higher stats.
Adamant is probably better overall, because you are also getting a buy one-get one free deal on any Attack purchase made through Nature, Effort or Individual values thanks to the club.

Consider going Fire Punch. It should still utterly destroy Bulu or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 07:54:06 No.30721329 Report

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With the slow meta I'm running mine brave to upset tr teams. Outslowing their ace is delicious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 08:48:26 No.30722112 Report

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>>30721248
>tfw your bro wouldn't be relevant in a meta without tapus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 08:52:49 No.30722164 Report

Quoted By: >>30722207 >>30722517 >>30725416

this thread is literally just a bunch of posts saying the same thing.

why does each person feel compelled to tell the op that bonemerang isn't affected by grassy terrain and breaks through subs when there are multiple posts before saying the exact same thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 08:55:48 No.30722207 Report

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>>30722164
Which reminds me, did you know bonemerang is unaffected by grassy terrain and breaks through subs/sturdy/disguise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 08:56:33 No.30722212 Report

Quoted By: >>30727197

>>30717223
Nah, bonemerang is better with bulu running rampant. Earthquake gets shafted by grassy terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 09:16:20 No.30722463 Report

Quoted By: >>30722480

>>30719653
F L A R E B L I T Z
You dont need rock head to use flair blitz man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 09:17:21 No.30722480 Report

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>>30722463
But you need lightening rod to absorb those volts it is no longer naturally immune to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 09:20:09 No.30722517 Report

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>>30722164
cause op dont get it! Its really not affected by grassy terrain and it breaks through subs!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 09:22:56 No.30722547 Report

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>>30717223
op, bonemerang isn't affected by grassy terrain and breaks through subs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 09:26:05 No.30722583 Report

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>>30717223
Earthquake has its fine points. The small difference in accuracy doesn't look like all that much of a problem, but it can be quite annoying when it does affect things. Grass Terrain is obviously a point to consider in Bonemerang's favor, though unless you're planning to run it yourself you can try to play around it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 09:26:18 No.30722585 Report

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>>30717223
>breaks through subs/sash
>isn't affected by meme terrain
Bonemerang is the superior option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 09:40:29 No.30722752 Report

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I run Bonemerang/Flare Blitz/Shadow Bone/Perish Song

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 13:49:06 No.30725416 Report

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>>30722164
I heard a rumor that bonemerang isn't affected by grassy terrain and breaks through subs. Is that true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 13:51:23 No.30725440 Report

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>>30717318
This
Bonemerang > Memequake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 14:14:38 No.30725762 Report

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>>30717223
Bonemerang has its niche uses. It can break Substitute, Focus Sash and abilities. The lower accuracy hurts, but it's a cool move to have available. Even in doubles I'd say it's a case of either or, especially with Grassy Terrain around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 15:20:48 No.30726606 Report

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>>30717223
I personally prefer earthquake because its perfect accuracy but I realize it get fucked by bulu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 15:59:11 No.30727197 Report

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>>30722212
Tapu Bulu is actually the least run Tapu. And in most scenarios, Flare Blitz is the better option, outside of Heatran and Half Health Tyranitar switching in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 16:51:07 No.30728028 Report

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>>30721298

>fire punch

Bank only

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 16:55:52 No.30728084 Report

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I like Bonemerang for hitting Mimmikyu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 17:02:53 No.30728175 Report

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Bonemerang is the better option. It hits twice, breaking subs, Sash, Sturdy, and is uneffected by Grassy Terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 17:04:26 No.30728199 Report

Quoted By: >>30729895

>>30717223
Let me guess, you run merciless and baneful bunker on Toxapex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:44:25 No.30729895 Report

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>>30728199
Not op but why would someone do that? That's not even a real comparison. Marowak has a long bone on its artwork and model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:36:03 No.30731071 Report

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i swapped to eq and realised how many sturdy and subs bonemerang actually broke. fuck eq

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 21:23:06 No.30733493 Report

Quoted By: >>30734825

>>30717223
Pretend he taps his bone on the ground and makes an earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 22:15:41 No.30734825 Report

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>>30733493
That sounds badass actually

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