>>30726143Toxapex really isnt that bad. So long as you have something with semblance of bulk that can setup and isn't totally resisted by Water/Poison, you can handle it. Celesteela is a pain in the ass, but it's got a couple key things that keep it in check.
Lele on the other hand is a cunt in a half. Thing hits way too hard, has good bulk, and way too high of a speed tier for it's performance given that it has the best Terrain. 130 base SpAtk, backed by the 50% boost to Psychic is an auto Choice Specs without the drawback. And then it also stacks with specs.
