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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:39:46 No.30729778 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30729937 >>30729950 >>30729997 >>30730137 >>30730434 >>30730594 >>30730763 >>30732731

If you could only buff every shitmon, or nerf every top tier threat to alleviate the power creep in pokemon, what would you do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:46:28 No.30729937 Report

Quoted By: >>30730026

>>30729778
Buff luxray, that mon looks too cool to be PU, give it a good signature electric physical move, or give it dark dual typing, or even just give it 105 base speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:47:05 No.30729950 Report

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>>30729778
Buff shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:49:14 No.30729997 Report

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>>30729778

Nerf every top tier threat. Smaller numbers are always more practical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:50:02 No.30730019 Report

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Give them single use super powered moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:50:23 No.30730026 Report

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>>30729937
Give Galvanize more distribution or make Zing Zap not a unique move to Togedemaru. Increase Wild Charge's BP to 110-120 to make it more attractive as a harder hitting alternative in tradeoff for recoil akin to Double Edge instead of basically being a shitty physical version of Thunderbolt that kills your mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:50:30 No.30730033 Report

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Buff every shitmon. Let's crash this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:51:52 No.30730064 Report

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Nerf top tier threats. Buffs inevitably lead to power creep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:53:29 No.30730098 Report

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Power creep is the long term problem, so nerf the top would probably do the most good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:55:22 No.30730137 Report

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>>30729778
Shitmon in pokemon are exceptionally shit. Most would need huge stat boosts or overpowered abilities. Most don't have anything remotely usable, and simply having one on your team means your one mon down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 18:57:22 No.30730175 Report

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sorry for not posting this sooner
http://www.strawpoll.me/11861160

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:09:48 No.30730403 Report

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buff every shitmon

if everyone's op....nobody is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:11:02 No.30730434 Report

Quoted By: >>30730492

>>30729778
neither because shit will never happen ledian-cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:14:36 No.30730492 Report

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>>30730434
>shit will never happen
>Mega-mom, mance, waifu and sableye were nerfed
>prankster and gale wings were nerfed (and they tried with unaware but didnt do anything...)
>many shitmons from older gens got great abilities, stat boosts and some even movepool overhauls
Wew, such denial. I only put ledian there cause its the only pokemon who will never be good and the only shiny I've had the misfortune of coming across

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:15:12 No.30730594 Report

Quoted By: >>30730672

>>30729778
Just nerf top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:18:29 No.30730672 Report

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>>30730594
How much would it be necessary to nerf top in order to make, say, delibird, relevant (assuming no buffs applied to delibird)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:19:27 No.30730699 Report

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>>30730672
make it so only delibird has access to any flying type moves.

Bam, its extremely viable now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:22:15 No.30730763 Report

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>>30729778
I'd RATHER nerf top-rier, but then top-tier fags would get butthurt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:32:05 No.30730984 Report

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Ledian will NEVER be good

t. someone who absolutely loves Ledian

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:32:32 No.30730990 Report

Quoted By: >>30731065 >>30732765

Swoobat gets Cosmic Power
Lopunny (unsure if non-mega counts as shitmon or not) gets elemental fangs through breeding
Flareon gets Earthquake/Bulldoze, Shadow Claw, and Sucker Punch
Delcatty gets Simple to abuse Charge Beam and Cosmic Power, +10 to SpA
Maractus gets +10 to HP, Weather Ball, Sludge Bomb, a few Ground moves like Mud Shot and Bulldoze
Talonflame gets Air Slash, Hyper Voice, +10 SpA, -5 Att
Event Mew with Crabhammer
Lurantis gets +10 Spe, Chlorophyll
Flame charge is now 60 Base Power
Joltik has its stats multiplied so that it has 600 BST, has better moveset
Dunsparce gets +15 to defenses, elemental fangs as egg moves, Leech Life from TM
Raichu gets Tri-Attack somehow, and Blizzard for some reason
Rotom-Air gets Magnet Rise, can only hold Air Balloon
Rotom Fridge gets Freeze-Dry

How did I do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:33:11 No.30730999 Report

Quoted By: >>30731042

Ban UBs and Tapus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:34:51 No.30731042 Report

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>>30730999
Kek has spoken

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:35:50 No.30731065 Report

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>>30730990
But Lop already gets the punches, what are the fangs for

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:36:39 No.30731082 Report

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>>30731065
Flinch
Also because have you ever been bitten by a rabbit
Those things are fucking savages

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 19:48:32 No.30731317 Report

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I would prefer them balance EVERYTHING and lower top mons, buff low mons, and rework aspects so that nothing is god tier compared to eachother. Legendaries and standouts are fine, it should and will always happen. But even other games like Mobas with meta dont have 80% of the cast just relegated to practically unusable. I love getting new mons and new ideas. But with how they shoved alola forms and z moves down our throats directly after changing the core aspects of the games direction with Megas its obvious they want to be gimmicky and not have a balanced game. They need to take a generation and just fix shit, with internet updates and such it has become easier and easier to accomplish this.
But most of all I want the developers to know what they want. Pokemon has become a back and forth shit show where they just throw stuff in because its different. Even Gen 3, 4 and 5 attempted to add flavor while balancing mechanics and adding new uses (weather and special/ physical splits etc)
Sorry for blog post but at this point pokemons problems are deeply seeded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 20:49:40 No.30732731 Report

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>>30729778
Buff shitmons. Team Fortress-style is the only true way to balance. When everything is OP, nothing is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 20:51:26 No.30732765 Report

Quoted By: >>30733689

>>30730990
>Joltik has its stats multiplied so that it has 600 BST, has better moveset
Did you drink the kool-aid at this point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2016 21:31:57 No.30733689 Report

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>>30732765
No, I'm just saying it WOULD be a significant buff

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