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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:35:24 No.30774194 View View Reply Original Report

What the fuck can you do against this asshole when someone uses him in a 3v3 online match?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:39:25 No.30774237 Report

Quoted By: >>30774411 >>30777307 >>30786904

Bring out Quackers No.2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:39:25 No.30774238 Report

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>>30774194
Toxic stall, wall it, or completely counter it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:40:35 No.30774256 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:40:39 No.30774257 Report

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>>30774238
>fighting M-Mence
>using stall
Pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:42:56 No.30774287 Report

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>>30774194
>Any fairy type
>Willowisp
>Smoochum used powder snow

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:43:49 No.30774302 Report

Quoted By: >>30774411 >>30777529

It's playtime, dragons.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:45:16 No.30774327 Report

Quoted By: >>30775700

>>30774194
Start bringing an Impostor Ditto to 3v3 Battlespot. Give it a Choice Scarf and destroy retards with their own mon. EV train its HP and make sure its HP IVs are good. Since the rest will be overwritten when it transforms.

> mfw everytime

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:45:28 No.30774331 Report

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>>30774194
Run one yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:50:00 No.30774391 Report

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>>30774194
Fuck M-Salamence. If I see one on battle spot, i'm looking for another person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:51:50 No.30774411 Report

Quoted By: >>30774438 >>30774557

>>30774237
I see tons of people asking for Porygon2s on the GTS. Why? Do they just run him with evolite and throw out ice beams?

>>30774302
Thinkin about this dude. I have Ribombee as my resident fairy but it can't deal with a Double Edge to the fucking face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:52:13 No.30774417 Report

Quoted By: >>30774527 >>30775679 >>30777370

>>30774287
>any fairy type
Name one that can take a STAB Aerialate Double-Edge or Earthquake and not die in 2 hits maximum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 13:54:31 No.30774438 Report

Quoted By: >>30774513 >>30786411

>>30774411
Knock Off isn't as prominent in Battle Spot (especially since it's 3v3 so you're not bringing in your Knock Off user everytime) so Eviolite is in Porygon2's firm grip in this metagame. Being able to take all kinds of hits and even outright counter some Pokemon with Trace makes it even better. I want to try to make a team with both Porygons like I did in XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:00:18 No.30774513 Report

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>>30774438
Klefki, Celesteela, any Sash mon with a (special) ice move, P2 with status.

>>30774257
Celesteela @ Leftovers
Leech Seed
Protect
Substitute
Heavy Slam

Here ya go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:01:12 No.30774527 Report

Quoted By: >>30774702 >>30780443

>>30774417
>Name one that can take a STAB Aerialate Double-Edge or Earthquake and not die in 2 hits maximum

This ^. Mimikyu could of course tank the first hit sure but it's just going to get outsped next turn.

Would Play Rough really be enough to kill it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:02:25 No.30774543 Report

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>The counters people have listed for M. Mence just so happen to be some of the most common pokemon asked for over GTS

Jesus...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:03:16 No.30774557 Report

Quoted By: >>30774593 >>30774705 >>30774796 >>30777127 >>30781702

>>30774411
Z conversion raises all stats and changes the users type to the type of the first move in slot. Combine that with analytic, his coverage (Bug, ghost, psychic, dark, and the reliable beambolt) combined with new stab and you have a new threat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:06:01 No.30774593 Report

Quoted By: >>30775639

>>30774557
Nobody uses Z Conversion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:09:33 No.30774646 Report

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>>30774194
Thunder Wave but if your opponent is crafty he'll carry Facade

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:10:21 No.30774661 Report

Quoted By: >>30774668 >>30774676 >>30786268

>>30774194
How are people doing the EV spreads it?
I'm looking to breed one myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:11:00 No.30774668 Report

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>>30774661
Get out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:11:51 No.30774676 Report

Quoted By: >>30774692

>>30774661
252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 SpD

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:13:08 No.30774692 Report

Quoted By: >>30774801 >>30774811

>>30774676
No HP?
Won't he die too easily after Double Edge recoil?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:13:37 No.30774702 Report

Quoted By: >>30774748 >>30774818 >>30780443

>>30774527
>Not counting Intimidate
252 Atk Mimikyu Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 276-326 (83.3 - 98.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And this is a 0 HP 0 Def MegaMence, they usually have some EVs invested in HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:13:50 No.30774705 Report

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>>30774557
Stop. You're fucking terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:16:59 No.30774748 Report

Quoted By: >>30774840

>>30774702
Oh okay so you could really just throw out play rough then follow up with shadow sneak just to be fukkin sure cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:17:53 No.30774762 Report

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It's pretty hard to setup with in the fairy dominated meta. Porygon2 and Celesteela are everywhere too

I've seen way more Mega Gyarados

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:19:22 No.30774796 Report

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>>30774557
Z-Conversion is for Porygon-Z.
Porygon2 resumes using Eviolite and is as effective as ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:19:39 No.30774801 Report

Quoted By: >>30777357

>>30774692
Return OHKO's most everything after a single DD without recoil

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:20:26 No.30774811 Report

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>>30774692
You can invest HP on it if you have a DD build. With 16 EVs on speed on Adamant nature and one dragon dance you outspeed everything up until 140 base speed mons with positive nature.
On the other hand base 80 and above scarfed mons with positive nature are going to outspeed you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:20:51 No.30774818 Report

Quoted By: >>30774840 >>30780443

>>30774702
Nolife orb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:22:22 No.30774836 Report

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Pheromosa Ice Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:22:37 No.30774840 Report

Quoted By: >>30774861

>>30774748
If you get intimidated that wont be nough.
If you swich into MegaMence you're going to get your Disguise broken.

>>30774818
I don't know if the average Mimikyu set uses Life Orb.
With Life Orb and no intimidate it would be OHKO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:24:30 No.30774861 Report

Quoted By: >>30774882

>>30774840
What else is it running other than like ghostium?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:24:48 No.30774865 Report

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>>30774194
Ice it with anyone with a sash
Or use weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:26:12 No.30774882 Report

Quoted By: >>30774944

>>30774861
I expected people to run Focus Slash because of it's horrible HP but honestly don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:31:25 No.30774937 Report

Quoted By: >>30774994

>>30774194
Is Magearna allowed on Battle Spot? Because an Air Balloon set would easy shut down Mence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:32:08 No.30774944 Report

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>>30774882
Oh, I guess sash works in battle spot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:35:12 No.30774994 Report

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>>30774937
It's a mythical, so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 14:39:38 No.30775052 Report

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>>30774194
If you can get him going, you can try to set up a mega blaziken sweep. About the only thing that can outspeed and OHKO Megamance. One mon uses wideguard, the other uses sunny day. Blaziken gets a free swords dance and speed boost. Flare blitz and bam.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:22:52 No.30775601 Report

Quoted By: >>30775747 >>30777373

I open with Focus sash Froslass on 3v3 battle spot and it feels really good eating double edge, Killing it with an ice beam and then Destiny bonding the following threat for a quick 2 for 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:25:27 No.30775636 Report

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>>30774194
Pheromosa with Ice Beam

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:25:35 No.30775639 Report

Quoted By: >>30775676 >>30776796

>>30774593
source: your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:28:28 No.30775676 Report

Quoted By: >>30775716

>>30775639
what website is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:28:33 No.30775679 Report

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>>30774417
Do you honestly think that people who use the "(weak pokemon) used (supereffective move)" actually know what they're talking about? He's only here to shitpost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:30:22 No.30775700 Report

Quoted By: >>30777074 >>30777471

>>30774327
This is actually a good solution, Ditto is great for battle spot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:32:15 No.30775716 Report

Quoted By: >>30776297

>>30775676
http://www.smogon.com/stats/2016-11/moveset/

If you look at singles, battle spot, and any other battle format, statistics for Porygon-Z will be consistent.

In other words, you're only using Porygon-Z for Z-Conversion now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 15:35:19 No.30775747 Report

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>>30775601
Unreliable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:00:51 No.30776097 Report

Quoted By: >>30783517

>>30774194
Mega Mawile could beat this thing.
If it had its mega stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:15:29 No.30776297 Report

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>>30775716
>http://www.smogon.com/stats/2016-11/moveset/
not the porygon poster, but thank you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:23:25 No.30776394 Report

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>>30774194
Scarf/Sash Weavile. Defensive Granbull. Mimikyu in general. Celesteela kind of works.

There are ways of beating it, but they are few and far between.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:44:27 No.30776707 Report

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Rhyperior and hope that the Mega Salamence don't have Hydro Pump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:48:30 No.30776757 Report

Quoted By: >>30776832

>>30774194
>lvl 2 pidgey used scratch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:48:38 No.30776760 Report

Quoted By: >>30777088

Life orb ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:48:57 No.30776763 Report

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>>30774194
Just use the good old sword and board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:51:01 No.30776793 Report

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>>30774194
>3v3
found your problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:51:10 No.30776796 Report

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>>30775639
We're talking about Porygon2 retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:53:51 No.30776832 Report

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>>30776757
-1 0 Atk Pidgey Peck vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 404-476 (115 - 135.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
holy fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 16:54:29 No.30776841 Report

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M-mence has never been a problem for me because I usually go with my life orb salamence and another intimidate user (I miss m-mawile), and then I 2HKO him with draco meteor, stone miss or another SE move.

After two intimidates he is pretty shit because almost everyone runs the physical variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:01:33 No.30776934 Report

Quoted By: >>30776976

>tfw i wanted to use mega mence but he sucks apparently

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:03:56 No.30776976 Report

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>>30776934
Yeah, he sucks so bad he got quickbanned and is still making terrific work in Ubers, how terrible

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:09:27 No.30777074 Report

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>>30775700
It's especially fantastic to destroy stat boosted mons, since it copies the Mon+any boosts it had at the time.

The amount of Mega Mom users I blew up and got to disconnect was hilarious. Ditto stronk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:10:31 No.30777088 Report

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>>30776760
You mean Sash? Pheromosa is screwed if Mence has already DDanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:12:57 No.30777127 Report

Quoted By: >>30777241

>>30774557

Does the all stats that are raised include crit rates, evasion, and accuracy or just attack/sp.atk, defense/sp.def and speed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:19:45 No.30777241 Report

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>>30777127
The latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:23:39 No.30777307 Report

Quoted By: >>30777381

>>30774237
M-mence can probably 2 shot this duck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:26:20 No.30777357 Report

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>>30774801
>using return
Nigga what
Double Edge is stronger, and you can run Roost just in case there's a long battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:27:12 No.30777370 Report

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>>30774417
Togekiss, I'd bet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:27:23 No.30777373 Report

Quoted By: >>30781902

>>30775601
Destiny Bond was nerfed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:27:40 No.30777381 Report

Quoted By: >>30777467

>>30777307
It can't unless mixed with Draco I believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:33:53 No.30777467 Report

Quoted By: >>30777511

>>30777381
252+ Atk Salamence-Mega Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 120 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 195-229 (52.1 - 61.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

This thing is a beast

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:34:09 No.30777471 Report

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>>30775700
Just be sure to give it a good hidden power, I went with ground as it fucks electric types that carry hp ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:36:00 No.30777511 Report

Quoted By: >>30777577

>>30777467
>not Bold
>not even max Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:37:11 No.30777529 Report

Quoted By: >>30778014

>>30774302
That's not Twinkle Tackle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 17:39:59 No.30777577 Report

Quoted By: >>30777958 >>30779045

>>30777511
No one runs physically defensive duck you noob, it's always mixed spread Calm nature to make full use of Eviolite

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 18:01:25 No.30777958 Report

Quoted By: >>30780927

>>30777577
is it always worth running 252 hp if you're running eviolite? Especially if you're running a defensive nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 18:03:59 No.30778014 Report

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>>30777529
You need Nightmare for lots of other stuff. Tackle is legit when you can't afford to miss, of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 18:57:37 No.30779045 Report

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>>30777577
There are many ways you can run Porygon2, but the point was that it can easily 1v1 Mega Salamence if it wants to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 19:41:14 No.30779959 Report

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Choice Specs Tapu Koko HP ice is how I deal with it.

You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 19:44:51 No.30780016 Report

Quoted By: >>30780058 >>30780443 >>30781049

Predict the Double Edge, switch to Mimikyu, hit it with Play Rough/Twinkle Tackle and finish with a Shadow Sneak or predict the EQ, which is pretty much guaranteed to happen, switch to something immune that either outspeeds/priority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 19:46:40 No.30780058 Report

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>>30780016

Fuck forgot Aerilate. Special Tapu Koko can handle it, though. You may have to sac.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:06:34 No.30780443 Report

Quoted By: >>30785714

>>30780016
>>30774527
>>30774702
>>30774818
would fairy z-move kill the salamence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:13:34 No.30780594 Report

Quoted By: >>30780894

>>30774194
>walrein
>lapras
>etc. with blizzard
What you gonna do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:23:43 No.30780888 Report

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>>30774194
IKU ZE!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:24:00 No.30780894 Report

Quoted By: >>30781138

>>30780594
>It missed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:25:29 No.30780927 Report

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>>30777958
Not that guy but yeah. Eviolite ups both defenses, so investing 252 in HP is worth it. About the other 252, it depends on what you want and depends on the pokemon.
Take Chansey for example, its SpD is so high you might as well make it Bold and give it 252 Def. That way it becomes super tankey both physically and specially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:26:52 No.30780954 Report

Quoted By: >>30780987

>>30774194
>Mega salami used substitute!
>Rotom W used volt switch!
>Go Whimsicott!
>Whimsicott used encore

Works everytiem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:27:41 No.30780966 Report

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/forfeit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:28:38 No.30780987 Report

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>>30780954
If you have moonblast btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:31:39 No.30781049 Report

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>>30780016
252+ Atk Aerilate Mega Salamence Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mimikyu: 364-430 (115.9 - 136.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:32:52 No.30781081 Report

Quoted By: >>30783322 >>30786186

A C C E L
R O C K

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 20:36:14 No.30781138 Report

Quoted By: >>30781985

>>30780894
>only 30% chance salamence wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 21:02:47 No.30781702 Report

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>>30774557
Z-Conversion Porygon2 with Analytic? This is a special kind of retardation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 21:11:59 No.30781902 Report

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>>30777373
Still works on the first go. It's just further repeated attempts that don't work 100%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 21:15:09 No.30781985 Report

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>>30781138
>30% chance
>not looking for a 0% chance it wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 22:11:21 No.30783322 Report

Quoted By: >>30786186

>>30781081
252+ Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Midday Accelerock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence-Mega: 158-188 (47.7 - 56.7%) -- 87.5% chance to 2HKO

I think you mean Ice Shard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 22:18:50 No.30783517 Report

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>>30776097
Mawhile is obtainable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:32:40 No.30785677 Report

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>>30774194
This

2BAW-WWWW-WWW3-WDH2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:34:36 No.30785714 Report

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>>30780443

Yes, depending what it came from. Ideally make it a special, and mence will die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:36:15 No.30785755 Report

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>>30774194

It doesn't have many counters now, but koko special and iron maiden work well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:45:32 No.30786001 Report

Quoted By: >>30786105

>>30774194
Top Lele used moonblast
Top Kek used thunderbolt
Mamoswine used Ice shard/Icicle Crash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:49:36 No.30786105 Report

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>>30786001

Right koko can actually OHKO with a thunderbolt and resists the STABS. Dunno if it can survive a hit, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:53:00 No.30786186 Report

Quoted By: >>30786354

>>30781081
>>30783322
This thing has 140 base defense. It's not any Ice Shard that takes it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:53:48 No.30786207 Report

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>>30774194

Good thing I run an offensive team where all 3 of my mons can fuck it easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:54:18 No.30786220 Report

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>>30774194
Ditto or Pyukumuku are fantastic on battlespot teams. You usually won't touch them, but if you spy cancer, you can stop it cold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:55:40 No.30786268 Report

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>>30774661
252 Attack, 252 SpD, and 4 Speed with an Assault Vest is literally its best set, unless you are facing a mirror match, in which case you want 252 Attack, 252 Def, and 4 HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:58:46 No.30786352 Report

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Should I be running jolly or adamant on my own M-Mence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Dec 2016 23:58:56 No.30786354 Report

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>>30786186
>what
>no way Megamence has that high defense
>check its stat distribution
what the FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:00:48 No.30786411 Report

Quoted By: >>30786520 >>30786642

>>30774438
I've been running:
M-Garchomp
Kartana
Primarina

In the battle tree and porygon-z is the biggest fucking cunt in the world. Most of the times I've lost it's because of those fuckers.
What is a good answer to it?
Generally if it switches in on my Kartana I can eat the hit with my focus sash and then 1HKO it, but is there some secret to countering it? It's obnoxiously strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:04:42 No.30786520 Report

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>>30786411

Outspeed it and dick it. Your team is kinda slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:09:42 No.30786642 Report

Quoted By: >>30786695

>>30786411
>Using M-Garchomp over regular Chomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:11:24 No.30786678 Report

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Use scarf ninetales with Blizzard
It's kinda memey but very few people expect it
Also Ditto will most likely net you a win if your opponent is stupid and sets up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:12:16 No.30786695 Report

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>>30786642
>Using M-Garchomp over regular Chomp.

I couldn't think of a good item to put on it and the boost in attack power is nice.
I realize my team has no synergy for it's ability as m-chomp and losing chomps ability is pretty lame, however any enemy that brings out sandstorm gets royally thrashed so it has its upsides too.
I was thinking about switching to m-salamence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:22:13 No.30786904 Report

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>>30774237
2 generations of fairies and this is still the best counter to dragon types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:26:16 No.30786990 Report

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>>30774194
Pretty sure this thing couldn't do much to my Rotom-H.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Dec 2016 00:52:18 No.30787621 Report

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>Mega-Mence is as physically offensive as Landorus-Therian
>Is more physically bulky than Skarmory
>More specially offensive than Raikou
>More specially defensive than Zapdos
>And is as fast as Alakazam and Dugtrio
And this isn't taking its typing, movepool and abilities into account.

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