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Fixing mega gardevoir

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:03:22 No.30902683 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30902746 >>30902768 >>30902773 >>30902847 >>30903187 >>30903581

HP: 68
Attack: 5
Defense: 125
Sp. Attack: 165
Sp. Defense: 135
Speed: 120

This is a far more efficient stat spread. No wasted stat point at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:07:26 No.30902746 Report

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>>30902683
>minmaxing
if your gonna do that, do it with something shite like audino

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:08:30 No.30902768 Report

Quoted By: >>30902895

>>30902683

Mega Garde is fine as is; she's a Mega done right. More viable than the base form, but not as absurdly broken as certain other Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:08:56 No.30902773 Report

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>>30902683
needs contrary and fleur cannon too
and psycho boost
and can hold an item

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:12:48 No.30902847 Report

Quoted By: >>30902886 >>30902894 >>30902895 >>30902921 >>30902922 >>30902939 >>30902986 >>30903481

>>30902683
>no wasted stat point at all
Nice 5 Atk retard. Here, let me fix that for you.
HP: 1
Attack: 1
Defense: 1
Sp. Attack: 305
Sp. Defense: 1
Speed: 304

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:15:05 No.30902886 Report

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>>30902847
>bellsprout used dragon claw!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:15:31 No.30902894 Report

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>>30902847
>Magnemite's Stur

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:15:35 No.30902895 Report

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>>30902768
That +10 Attack really needed to go into Defense, though, let's be honest now. No one is running Quick Attack off that garbage stat.

>>30902847
Base stats can't go above 255 due to programming limitations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:16:35 No.30902921 Report

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>>30902847
> OHKO'ed by Vacuum Wave
No thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:16:36 No.30902922 Report

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>>30902847

No Pokemon has a base stat below 5, with the exception of Shedinja's 1 HP.

5 is the minimum for base stats, 255 is the maximum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:17:13 No.30902939 Report

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>>30902847
>Tyrogue used Mach Punch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:17:18 No.30902941 Report

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>>30902895
Couldn't.

They can probably rework it to allow it now, that'd be a bit silly because it's not like we need stats to be that high, but I can't imagine it's impossible anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:18:48 No.30902975 Report

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>>30902895
>Base stats can't go above 255 due to programming limitations.
Maybe that was true in when Pokemon was a Gameboy game. It's certainly not true now, but if it is I hope whoever programs Pokemon's engines commit sudoku for being such failures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:19:23 No.30902986 Report

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>>30902847

>Pointed stones dug into Gardevoir
>Gardevoir fainted!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:19:55 No.30902995 Report

Quoted By: >>30903168 >>30903417 >>30903614

>>30902895
If Gardevoir could actually learn Quick Attack, I'd probably try it out to meme on Garchomp and things that are low on health and faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:20:29 No.30903006 Report

Quoted By: >>30903300

How to fix Mega Gardevoir, give her a bigger ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:24:30 No.30903067 Report

Quoted By: >>30903113 >>30903122 >>30903417

>>30902941
>>30902975
No, the limitation is base stats an unsigned 8-bit value, which starts at zero and caps at 255. There's absolutely no reason for them to expand it to 16-bit or any other larger value since base stats usually never hit the cap. It's called optimizing your code.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:27:52 No.30903113 Report

Quoted By: >>30903361

>>30903067
>No, the limitation is base stats an unsigned 8-bit value, which starts at zero and caps at 255

then just make it 16-bits and add a line of code. Seriously it's not that hard. The games as they are now aren't even optimized because there's no reason to since we live in an age with almost unlimited space.

if they truly optimized they could probably fit the entire game on less than 1000 lines of code

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:28:06 No.30903122 Report

Quoted By: >>30903361

>>30903067
Choosing to use 8-bit values over 16-bit values when you have access to them and it's not hindering performance is not a programming limitation, it's a self-imposed limitation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:30:21 No.30903168 Report

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>>30902995
It learns Shadow Sneak though. A legitimate strategy was to Hyper Voice + Shadow Sneak Sash'd Garchomps on Battle Spot or something. At least that is what I do. But + 20 on Atk is wasted no matter how you look at it. Move it to Def so it doesn't get 2HKOd by Latios of all things (it is supposed to counter those) or get OHKOd by Mega Lopunny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:31:39 No.30903187 Report

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>>30902683
Glaceon is superior semen dump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:32:23 No.30903197 Report

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>>30903187
That's not Primarina.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:37:37 No.30903300 Report

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>>30903006
Good idea anon, the bigger the ass, the louder the farts :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:40:31 No.30903361 Report

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>>30903113
>1000 lines of code
lmao Maybe if Pokémon was as graphically bare-bones as Dwarf Fortress. Also, Quality != Quantity. Just because you CAN fit around 100 GB on a triple-layer Blu-ray disc doesn't mean you SHOULD. Optimizing code isn't necessarily about saving space; it's about achieving faster loading times (even if it only saves a nanosecond) by having less code to read.

>>30903122
No, it's a limitation. The 8-bit value is hard-coded in the games. He can't just shove a value greater than 255 into a base stat without causing an overflow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:43:10 No.30903417 Report

Quoted By: >>30903614 >>30903625

>>30902995
TL?

>>30903067
That's not code optimization, it would take no additional code to access an int-16 than it does an int-8. What it *is* is a carryover from RGB when they needed the extra space.
Not counting base species information (since I don't know how that's stored), RGB/Y had 246 individual pokemon slots (box+party). Using int-8s instead of -16s saves 6 bytes per slot. That's 1968 bytes saved. Just under 2k.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:46:35 No.30903481 Report

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>>30902847
>885 special attack with a modest nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:51:35 No.30903581 Report

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>>30902683
What's was the point of giving megas that were special attackers an increase in attack (and vice versa)? Mega beedrill loses spatk and uses that toward other stats, but what others do the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:52:02 No.30903591 Report

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>>30902975
>He doesn't know that horde chains reset after the 255th pokemon is killed due to overflow
Game freak's programmer are massive idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:53:09 No.30903614 Report

Quoted By: >>30903968

>>30903417
>TL?

>>30902995
>Whimsicott: We're the same colours?

>Gallade: Wow! Let's get along!

>Bisharp: sigh

>Gallade: My sister is shy, so... Sorry about this.

I think I've got that right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 22:53:34 No.30903625 Report

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>>30903417
Well, shit. You got me there. Still, there's literally no point in making base stats 16-bit unless Pokémon hits some sort of atrocious power creep next Gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2016 23:12:55 No.30903968 Report

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>>30903614
Thanks.
It wasn't as funny as I had hoped, but thanks.

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