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Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 18:14:50 No.30940020 View View Reply Original Report

ITT 2 Truths and a Lie about early games

>Body Slam can't paralyze Tarous in gen 1
>If you catch Missigno, the battle continues and you can catch a Ditto
>If your max HP is at 255 you cannot use recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 18:17:12 No.30940064 Report

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>There's a cookie under the truck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 18:18:14 No.30940084 Report

Quoted By: >>30940118

It's M that continues the battle with Ditto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 18:20:59 No.30940118 Report

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>>30940084
well shit you're right

I fucked that up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 18:30:09 No.30940276 Report

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Onix has the highest possible defense of any pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 18:49:15 No.30940537 Report

Quoted By: >>30940765 >>30940944 >>30940987 >>30941867

>Focus Energy lowers your crit chance instead of boosting it
>Ice isn't weak to Fire
>Grass isn't weak to Bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:03:57 No.30940765 Report

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>>30940537
Was grass really not weak to bug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:16:15 No.30940944 Report

Quoted By: >>30941585

>>30940537
Oh Ice and Fire

I was very confused when I sent out Charizard against Lorelei

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:18:35 No.30940987 Report

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>>30940020
The third one. It's "if [max HP]-[current HP] = 255"
>>30940537
again third one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:23:20 No.30941061 Report

Quoted By: >>30941105

>The original Present formula used Pokemon's internal ID to calculate damage
>You could evolve Pokemon like Growlithe by leveling it up and finishing the battle with one of the certain Pokemon
>The games display type effectiveness message based on the primary type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:25:56 No.30941105 Report

Quoted By: >>30941144

>>30941061
first one

I've done the stone glitch a few times

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:28:09 No.30941144 Report

Quoted By: >>30941204

>>30941105
It's the third one, actually.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I#Dual-type_damage_misinformation

The game loads a chart that seems to be the order they added in type interactions, but in reverse (so Dragon is at the very top)

Present was very fucked in Gold and Silver.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Present_(move)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:30:44 No.30941181 Report

Quoted By: >>30941232

>Smoochum can be breed to learn Ice ball but has no parent who can do so
>Odd egg in Crystal has a 14% chance of being shiny
>You can transfer moves through mimics and transform shenanigans permanently in gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:32:15 No.30941204 Report

Quoted By: >>30941256

>>30941144
Fug, I even though in my head I was thinking about Grass on Gyrados

But Jesus Christ why would they do that for present

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:33:47 No.30941232 Report

Quoted By: >>30941373

>>30941181
Fairly sure it's the first one.

Odd Egg was 50% in Japanese Crystal, and 14% in other versions.

Fairly sure the shenanigans involve Sketch, linked battles and/or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:35:25 No.30941256 Report

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>>30941204
Most likely a glitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:38:22 No.30941302 Report

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Vital Throw, Silver Wind, and Baton Pass all came from Gen 2, not Gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:41:32 No.30941373 Report

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>>30941232
Oh wait I think I messed up

It was that was supposed to be Lovely Kiss

The third one only takes place in gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:43:08 No.30941393 Report

Quoted By: >>30941447 >>30941461 >>30941476 >>30941539

>Psychic types are immune to ghost attacks
>Gyarados can learn an attack at level 10, but can't actually learn it because there's no way to get one at level 10 in gen 1
>Viridian Forest's grass is glitched and won't spawn Pokemon on certain tiles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:46:28 No.30941447 Report

Quoted By: >>30941606

>>30941393
tiles in Viridan forest

I'm an ex speed runner

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:47:13 No.30941461 Report

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>>30941393
>>Gyarados can learn an attack at level 10, but can't actually learn it because there's no way to get one at level 10 in gen 1
>>Viridian Forest's grass is glitche

That's the second one.
That's why psychic was broken behond limits in gen 1 and people use the viridian forest glitch in speedruns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:48:14 No.30941476 Report

Quoted By: >>30941546 >>30941636

>>30941393
Is it the first?
I remember something about the star-shaped grass tiles not giving any encounters, it was a Werster vid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:50:39 No.30941532 Report

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>There was a Move Tutor in Crystal postgame
>A bug disabled you from fighting Red more than one time in some copies of Japanese Gold and Silver
>There is a Lapras in the deepest level of Union Cave on Fridays only

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:51:01 No.30941539 Report

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>>30941393
Second since first is infamously known as to cause to why Psychic was so broken in Gen 1 and the third is just the kind of glitch I would expect in a early Pokemon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:51:13 No.30941546 Report

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>>30941476
It's the second. In gen 1, Lick was the only ghost attack that didn't do fixed damaged, and Psychic types were immune to it for god-only-knows what reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:52:35 No.30941563 Report

Quoted By: >>30941678

>a trainer in gen 1 alludes to Munna
>All roaming Pokémon in gen 3 have a max IV of 7 in attack
>Using Thunder/thunderbolt may freeze the game in gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:53:23 No.30941585 Report

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>>30940944
Even if fire had been SE all of Lorelie's
guys were half water except Jynx anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:54:41 No.30941606 Report

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>>30941447
Wait, I was just trying to say that was true for the Viridan flower tiles

If you're wondering that's only in the international release iirc

Ignore that post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:56:04 No.30941636 Report

Quoted By: >>30941696

>>30941476
The reasoning is that tiles in gen 1 are made up of four smaller tiles. The Japanese version uses the bottom-left tile to determine what the rest of the tile is (for example, if there's grass in the bottom-left, it's a grass tile). The US version inexplicably changed it to the bottom-right, so every patch of grass in Viridian forest with a flower in the lower-right corner is seen as a non-grass tile.

This glitch is also why the Cinnebar coast glitch works. The Japanese versions don't consider those tiles to be water, so you can't encounter Pokemon there. The English versions do, so they get confused because the game doesn't know which Pokemon to spawn, so it just spawns something from the most recent data.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:58:01 No.30941678 Report

Quoted By: >>30941985

>>30941563
There was a trainer like that in Gen 2, not Gen 1, so this one is a lie. I remember Gen 3 roamers were indeed fucked up. But what's that about Thunderbolt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:58:33 No.30941696 Report

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>>30941636
>The Japanese version uses the bottom-left tile
>The US version inexplicably changed it to the bottom-right
Could it have something to do with Japanese being read right-to-left, to English's left-to-right? I wouldn't expect that to make a difference in coding, but...it is Game Freak that we're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 19:58:44 No.30941701 Report

Quoted By: >>30941828

>Lickitung couldn't learn Lick in Gen 1
>There's a glitch in Gen 2 where you can get a Shiny Celebi, but could only be done in a Japanese version
>In gen 3, if you hacked a Mew or a Deoxys in FRLG, it wouldn't listen to you no matter what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 20:03:58 No.30941828 Report

Quoted By: >>30942060

>>30941701
1 is true. 2 I'm not sure, 3 is determined by a special bit. So by hacking very carefully OR simply by hacking yourself an Auroraticket / Old Sea Map (Emerald exclusive) it will always obey.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 20:06:18 No.30941867 Report

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>>30940537
Only one of these is true though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 20:13:09 No.30941985 Report

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>>30941678
Well.... that's actually the same trainer in gen 1 and 2

Roamers in Emerald were fixed

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_glitches_in_Generation_III#Stuck_audio_freeze

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 20:17:13 No.30942060 Report

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>>30941828
It's 2, the first one always baffled me and didn't knew that about the third one. I just used a code to get to Faraway Island in Emerald and got my Mew which I then transfered in Fire Red to see if it listened. Also, there is actually a way to get a Celebi Egg in Gen 2, but it's a really complicated glitch and it has to be in Crystal

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