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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 16:15:02 No.30982302 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30983304 >>30983517

ITT: Pokemon you assumed were going to be shitmons but ended up being good.

Pic related.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 16:57:51 No.30982883 Report

Quoted By: >>30982961

When it was revealed not to evolve, I assumed it would be irredeemable trash. Surprisingly its usable and movepool blew me way.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:00:53 No.30982930 Report

Quoted By: >>30984961 >>30985028

Slap an Evolite on this bad boy and rack up Power Punches with Iron Fist.

Fuck the evolution though.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:02:46 No.30982955 Report

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It sure was an amazing day when we all found out about the secret 3rd effect of its ability. Immediately made up for its bad offenses.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:03:24 No.30982961 Report

Quoted By: >>30983029

>>30982883
Other than being a spinner immune to status what else can he do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:09:06 No.30983029 Report

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>>30982961
Wish support, that's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:10:22 No.30983048 Report

Quoted By: >>30983088

So I go for a Jolly Mimikyu, right?

And if I want to be super autismo I don't want 6 IV Mimikyu I want 5 IV Mimikyu with a "No Good" Special Attack, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:12:36 No.30983088 Report

Quoted By: >>30983165

>>30983048
>No good special attack

For what reasoning? For non-physical attacks you want 0IV attack to minimize foul play damage, but there's no harm in having any SpA IV on a non-special attacker

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:16:58 No.30983165 Report

Quoted By: >>30983189 >>30983256

>>30983088
So is perfect SpA is still something to aim for, even if both Natures (Adamant/Jolly) minimize SpA, and my Mimikyu loadout won't use SpA?

I've been breeding perfect Pokemans because of my autism, but some guy blew my mind when he said "Special Attackers should have bad Attack IV in case of confuse."

I guess I was applying the same idea in reverse

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:18:42 No.30983189 Report

Quoted By: >>30983252

>>30983165
No, special attack literally doesn't matter on Mimikyu. Think about this shit before you spew off nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:21:23 No.30983252 Report

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>>30983189
So special attack can be best or no good, there's no difference with Mimikyu or normal attackers in general. Yeah, I thought so from the wikis but it's good to get confirmation from someone who knows what he's doing. Thanks!

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:21:34 No.30983256 Report

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>>30983165
There is no reason neither to aim specifically for the minimum, nor for the maximum SAtk IV on purely physical attackers. There are no mechanics that punish you with your SAtk, but you are also not using that stat at all. Just roll over with what you get.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:22:36 No.30983277 Report

Quoted By: >>30983296 >>30983509

It's insane that it can even do anything. It being viable seemed about as likely as A-Raticate being viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:23:39 No.30983296 Report

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>>30983277
It really is insane. I guess no one realized how great of a counter it was to many new threats.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:24:01 No.30983304 Report

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>>30982302

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:25:17 No.30983329 Report

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:28:31 No.30983392 Report

Quoted By: >>30983458

Alolan persian and sandslash. I had overlooked fur coat and generally assume ice types are shit in general

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:31:34 No.30983458 Report

Quoted By: >>30983525 >>30983740

>>30983392
Alola Ninetales caught me by surprise - they didn't tell me how fucking fast it would be

How is Alola Sandslash, I have Sun, not Moon

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:33:50 No.30983509 Report

Quoted By: >>30984636

>>30983277

It having lightning rod is what really makes it stand out.

Shame that once bank comes out and everybody imports their billions of mons that all got tutored Knock Off will make him unviable.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:34:07 No.30983517 Report

Quoted By: >>30984388 >>30984926

>>30982302
Jolly or adamant?

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:34:30 No.30983525 Report

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>>30983458
With slush rush he's fucking sonic speed, which is good as ice types are good offensives.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:46:36 No.30983740 Report

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>>30983458
It's good at killin Tapus with STAB Iron head and dragons with Icicle Crash but it needs Alolan Ninetails on its team and dies easily to Magnezone and several others, it's just so good at killing Tapus that it's worth running.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 17:52:02 No.30983839 Report

Quoted By: >>30984416 >>30984563

Despite being an Ultra Beast, I thought one of my new favorite designs as going to be garbage because of Nihilego's defensively horrible Rock/Poison typing. But Nihilego is a badass with its good speed and high special attack.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:17:48 No.30984388 Report

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>>30983517
Adamant is better, imo. He'll be faster than most things already and has Shadow Sneak to cover him if he isn't.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:18:50 No.30984416 Report

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>>30983839
Fuck off, Lusamine

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:24:19 No.30984563 Report

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>>30983839
Rock's saving grace is that it's a solid(pun intended) offensive type. Fast offensive Rock types are guaranteed to have a some use. Archeops is an exception.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:27:30 No.30984636 Report

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>>30983509
Nah he'll still be good. People are still using it a lot on the Pokébank ladder on Showdown.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:36:06 No.30984811 Report

Quoted By: >>30984828 >>30984965 >>30985019

*unzips shell smash*
*teleports behind you*

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:37:06 No.30984828 Report

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>>30984811
*unzips image*

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:38:35 No.30984861 Report

Quoted By: >>30984923

dont mind me, just tanking hits like a champ and fucking the everloving shit out of fairies

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:41:33 No.30984923 Report

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>>30984861
He was all right in my playthrough but I found that Sandslash was the better tanky alolan form fairy counter because he could set up on them and then kill the whole team after.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:41:43 No.30984926 Report

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>>30983517

I also think adamant is better. the extra power after a swords dance and life orb is noticeable, and it doesn't necessarily miss the extra speed since it has shadow sneak anyway

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:43:48 No.30984961 Report

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>>30982930
Even with an eviolite it's still trash
>pup
lmao go away in-game shitter

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:44:05 No.30984965 Report

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>>30984811
>>30984828

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:46:51 No.30985019 Report

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>>30984811
>>30984828
>>30984965

I started to really like minior when I found out that it's immune to status when in meteor form. between that, it's excellent offensive stats, it's great stabs and coverage in earthquake, and shell smash, it's a really potent sweeper. it also has a really cool design.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:47:29 No.30985028 Report

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>>30982930
Lol, you could be using Eviolite Mienfoo who is better at everything Crabrawler could ever do. Crabominable isn't good, but it surely is an improvement over Crabrawler

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 18:50:20 No.30985089 Report

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It's not terrible desu.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 20:54:30 No.30987506 Report

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With unaware this guy can stall almost anyone to death in 1v1. I've been running it in ranked singles with the following setup and only gotten it knocked out twice in twelve matches, and I was only running trick room in half of those-

Unaware
Careful Nature
252Def, 252, SDef, 4HP, minimal speed and attack
- Toxic
- Soak
- Recover
- Protect/ Safeguard

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2016 20:59:06 No.30987590 Report

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Mudsdale. Mainly because his prevo looked so goofy. Then it evolved and began just fucking shit up/saving the day.

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