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give me one reason why the following should not be banned

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:15:29 No.31021792 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31021811 >>31021941 >>31022143 >>31022245

>mega metagross
>shell smash
>genesect
>mimikyu's disguise
>kartana
>ceelestana

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:16:37 No.31021804 Report

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because you suck OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:17:13 No.31021811 Report

Quoted By: >>31021843 >>31021924

>>31021792
Keeping stall in check, EQ's distribution.
Low accessibility, easy prediction, easy to counter.
ember
mold breaker
ember again
taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:17:25 No.31021813 Report

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op sucks

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:18:11 No.31021828 Report

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>I don't like it so it should be banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:19:33 No.31021843 Report

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>>31021811
forgot to mention, you can carry all of this in half a team. Git gud scrub

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:24:43 No.31021911 Report

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you'll miss me when lele takes over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:25:52 No.31021924 Report

Quoted By: >>31021982 >>31021989 >>31022012 >>31022038

>>31021811
how is shell smash easy to counter?

if they pull out a shell smash mon, you're fucked unless you have a counter move on the mon you already have out there.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:26:24 No.31021934 Report

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>metagross has always had 4mss
>relatively low distribution, nothing is fantastic with it, not impossible to stop once set up
>certain sets gained some checks, personally i still want it gone
>average strength when set up, vulnerable to status and mold breaker
>horrible neutral stab, mediocre coverage, hp fire dugtrio
>like lando-t in a way, its just really solid

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:26:59 No.31021941 Report

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>>31021792
just switch tiers and play Nu like the faggot that you are.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:29:48 No.31021982 Report

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>>31021924
>+2 252+ Atk Minior-Down Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 112-134 (71.3 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Toxapex can then haze.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:30:14 No.31021989 Report

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>>31021924
haze on a bulky mon, priority on most of the users can fuck them over, sturdy/sashed pokemon, and a plethora of checks that, even after the boost, the pokemon in question cannot beat.

Did you forget cloyster, the former best shell smash user, was in UU? its not too hard to counter anon

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:32:21 No.31022012 Report

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>>31021924

Taunt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:34:26 No.31022038 Report

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>>31021924
pretty much only two pokemon that can use it effectively is Cloyster and Minior

rest are too slow that even at plus two they dont out speed anything

252+ Atk Minior Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 244 HP / 8 Def Gliscor: 135-160 (38.3 - 45.4%) -- 59% chance to 3HKO after Poison Heal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:40:20 No.31022143 Report

Quoted By: >>31022213

>>31021792
>common weaknesses, not actually insurmountably strong or bulky, poor STAB coverage
>you can't be serious, it'd make more sense to ban literally the only Pokemon that might be busted with it (Minior) and even that's not terribly threatening on its own since Unaware Quagsire and Clefable wall the shit out of it.
>Genesect is busted I'll give you that
>Mold Breaker, +2 base 90 Attack with both STABs under 100 BP isn't actually that hard to tank
>Terrakion hits harder, poor STAB coverage
>Taunt it. Magic Bounce would probably make its life difficult as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:45:08 No.31022213 Report

Quoted By: >>31022308 >>31022447

>>31022143
>>Genesect is busted I'll give you that
anon, if genesect leaves, the tapus will destroy the meta

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:45:20 No.31022216 Report

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Because Smogon rules aren't fucking official.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:47:53 No.31022245 Report

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>>31021792
>mega metagross
Why should it be banned?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 17:52:00 No.31022308 Report

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>>31022213
>leave neo-genies to me...

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Anonymous Sun 25 Dec 2016 18:00:34 No.31022447 Report

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>>31022213
>implying they aren't already doing just that
And Smogon tries to avoid having broken check broken.

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