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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:07:53 No.31072138 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31072163 >>31072222 >>31072717 >>31072733 >>31072809 >>31074126 >>31074338 >>31075116

Just realized that:

1- Mega Evolution is practically a "fourth evolution" in most cases
2- Z-Moves are practically a "fifth move".

What's next GF? A practically "second item"?

How would that works and how it would affect the meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:09:19 No.31072163 Report

Quoted By: >>31072179 >>31072221 >>31072828 >>31073131 >>31074291 >>31075079

>>31072138
How about a third type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:10:48 No.31072179 Report

Quoted By: >>31072210 >>31072242 >>31072749

>>31072163
Maybe. They have been testing third types with Flying Press and Dhelmise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:12:12 No.31072196 Report

Quoted By: >>31075079

Mega Evolution isn't so much "evolution", as it is the Pokemon being pushed beyond its limits.

It has far more in common with Shonen transformations like Super Saiyans. The fact that Pokemon are apparently hurt and/or driven mad by the power furthers the parallel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:14:12 No.31072210 Report

Quoted By: >>31072242 >>31074156

>>31072179
Fluffy and Water Bubble as well. Probably some other shit too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:15:31 No.31072221 Report

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>>31072163
>[muffled smogon screams from far]

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:15:37 No.31072222 Report

Quoted By: >>31072228 >>31072239

>>31072138
>What's next GF? A practically "second item"?
Mega Fug exists you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:16:36 No.31072228 Report

Quoted By: >>31072278

>>31072222
Also A-Greninja

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:17:12 No.31072239 Report

Quoted By: >>31072278 >>31072284 >>31075106

>>31072222

And Ash-Greninja (+110 BST)

Both Fug and Greninja can "Mega Evolve" without a Mega Stone (though Greninja has to KO something first)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:17:23 No.31072242 Report

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>>31072179
>>31072210
Tru dat, but i think they will limitate the third type somehow, maybe giving it half stab? I dunno

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:19:41 No.31072278 Report

Quoted By: >>31072509

>>31072228
>>31072239
yeah... but which one displays a better idea of power creep?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:20:01 No.31072284 Report

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>>31072239
>A-Greninja has 10 more BST than regular megas

Jesus Christ.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 06:37:34 No.31072509 Report

Quoted By: >>31072828

>>31072278
Mega Fug
Already thoroughly shook up Fagon when he happened and its Delta Stream
You could give fug Steel typing
That negates his weaknesses to Fairy, Dragon, and Rock, while also lowering his weakness of Ice from 4x to 2x.
It only adds neutral damage to fire and increases resistance to Psychic, Grass (1/6x), Flying, Normal, Bug, and Steel.
Literally the only types it wouldnt resist would be Electric, Dark, Poison, and Ghost while giving the ability to destroy the only real threats it actually had (Ice Beam/Crash and Moonblast)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:00:36 No.31072717 Report

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>>31072138
One held item, one consumable item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:01:44 No.31072733 Report

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>>31072138
>how it would affect the meta?
More dumb powercreep and OHKOs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:03:22 No.31072749 Report

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>>31072179
>Flying Press
But it's both of Hawlucha's types. How is this a third type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:07:07 No.31072805 Report

Quoted By: >>31073028

practically a seventh mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:07:16 No.31072809 Report

Quoted By: >>31072826 >>31072851 >>31073007 >>31074487

>>31072138
>Z-Moves are practically a fifth move
No, Z-Moves are in fact Gems that you can use on command instead of automatically.

>Gem boosts a single move's power by 50% (or 30% for later gens)
>Z-Move multiplies a move's BP by 1.8

In the case of status moves it's basically losing an additional move. Not like anyone's going to use Splash after using the Z-Power. This is why Gems were more or less thrown out in this generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:08:41 No.31072826 Report

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>>31072809
>In the case of status moves it's basically losing an additional move. Not like anyone's going to use Splash after using the Z-Power. This is why Gems were more or less thrown out in this generation.
Unless of course you try something like Z-Bellydrum or Conversion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:08:57 No.31072828 Report

Quoted By: >>31074245

>>31072163
I remember I posted a thread with the idea of elemental Armors that would give pokemon extra types. The only Extremely broken one I remember thinking about with this idea was steel type, because if you give a pokemon Steel typing, it instantly becomes much better of a tank. The only other reason to use anything else would be for STAB and specific type combos.

>>31072509
And if the idea WAS on Gamefreak's hands, they'd probably restrict Mega Fug form it, for this reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:11:00 No.31072851 Report

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>>31072809
>more or less thrown out in this generation
They were thrown out last generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:23:20 No.31073007 Report

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>>31072809
>Z-Moves are in fact Gems
that doesn't carries the move's original attributes, such as Earthquake's spread damage or Draco Meteor's special drop.

So yeah, it's basically a 5th move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:25:11 No.31073028 Report

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>>31072805
Could definitely see some mechanic that summons a 7th Pokemon temporarily or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:29:06 No.31073075 Report

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>Gee minimize Muk, how come your trainer lets you have TWO bright powders?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 07:34:06 No.31073131 Report

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>>31072163
Assuming the type of your Hidden Power became your third type, what benefits most from this? reminder you can't use normal or fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 09:18:59 No.31074126 Report

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>>31072138
zen mode clones are game freaks answer to cuck ability-slots for bad gimmicks

while on the other hand fucking UBs exist and beast boost makes them threatening af and other mons got speed boost n shit that is actually beneficial tho

minior might be an exception since it is actually immune to status as long as its meteorite is not broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 09:23:56 No.31074156 Report

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>>31072210
It's crazy how Water Bubble got like 3 effects in one and then there's shit like Defeatist out there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 09:34:13 No.31074245 Report

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>>31072828
>Steel Armor on Dragonite

>2x weak to:
FUCKING NOTHING

Use:
-Dragon Dance
-Iron Tail
-Earthquake
-Outrage

GG

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 09:38:07 No.31074291 Report

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>>31072163
>Dragon/Flying/Ground type Pokemon
>Forest's Curse'd by Trevenant
>Ice Beam
Yfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 09:44:01 No.31074338 Report

Quoted By: >>31074415 >>31074518

>>31072138
>how it would affect the meta
scarfspecs lele

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 09:53:06 No.31074415 Report

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>>31074338
[Citation Needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 10:05:44 No.31074487 Report

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>>31072809
It's a bit different since z-damaging moves are essentially featureless damage, unlike gems which carry the move's original effects. They don't get priority, can't drop stats, can't inflict status, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 10:12:15 No.31074518 Report

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>>31074338
delete this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 11:36:07 No.31075000 Report

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Breeding would be so fucking trivial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 11:49:12 No.31075079 Report

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>>31072163
It's gonna be this, much easier to market than "wow now they can hold two items"
>>31072196
>Mega Evolution isn't so much "evolution", as it is the Pokemon being pushed beyond its limits.
Anon, mechanically speaking, megas are basically an evolution
New design, higher BST, sometimes different type
When you describe it as them being "pushed beyond their limits" it sounds like some anime BS that's only there to make the mechanic seem cooler and more badass than it actually is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 11:55:19 No.31075106 Report

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>>31072284
>>31072239
I knew it was strong but i never noticed they went and gave it 110, come on now gamefreak thats just uncalled for

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 11:56:53 No.31075116 Report

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>>31072138
There'll probably just be a gimmicky single-stage Pokemon with an ability that lets it hold two items

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