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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:52:56 No.31080362 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31080379 >>31080384 >>31080406 >>31080458 >>31080460

So apparently this got a DMCA takedown and there's a chance Nintendo could mass ban everyone that ever used it before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:53:46 No.31080372 Report

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Piratefags BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:54:30 No.31080379 Report

Quoted By: >>31080463

>>31080362
>Nintendo could mass ban everyone that ever used it before?
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:54:46 No.31080384 Report

Quoted By: >>31080425

>>31080362
If they could do it before, why haven't they done it already

Why is Nintendo so incompetent regarding piracy in comparison to Sony anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:55:04 No.31080386 Report

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Definitely

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:55:36 No.31080395 Report

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No because they use the same titlekeys as everyone who legally purchased it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:55:52 No.31080402 Report

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they can't lmao
and if they do i'll just unban myself
nintendo is fucking retarded lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:56:11 No.31080406 Report

Quoted By: >>31080463

>>31080362
>there's a chance Nintendo could mass ban-
There is no chance of this. There is no way to tell whether a console has used freeshop or eshop to get digital games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:56:31 No.31080410 Report

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Who cares? There's ways to get through bans now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:56:39 No.31080412 Report

Quoted By: >>31080463

>mass ban everyone

There's literally no difference between a buyfag and a freeshop fag. Hell, freeshop is literally just a fancy interface to read fucking keys for retardfags/lazyfags
https://3ds.titlekeys.com/ this is the thing that nintendo should have targeted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:56:55 No.31080416 Report

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>using slowshop

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:57:32 No.31080425 Report

Quoted By: >>31080463

>>31080384
>If they could do it before, why haven't they done it already
This. I'm not a piratefag but I'm not a moralfag going to proclaim btfo.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 19:59:52 No.31080458 Report

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>>31080362
Does it really matter?
It still works and you can still download it from other sources.
They can't ban people for it, and even if they could you can just evade it like the bans from playing online early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:00:09 No.31080460 Report

Quoted By: >>31080476

>>31080362
What?
I can "buy" games for free without hacking the console? Am I right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:00:20 No.31080463 Report

Quoted By: >>31080562

>>31080406
>>31080412
>>31080425
>>31080379
OP here sorry, I'm a piratefag but also a noob so I needed to confirm what's gonna happen to all those Luma 3DS's

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:00:54 No.31080476 Report

Quoted By: >>31080505

>>31080460
>I can "buy" games for free
yes
>without hacking the console
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:02:52 No.31080505 Report

Quoted By: >>31080537 >>31080554 >>31080562

>>31080476
Please explain.
Is it possible to do it on current firmware?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:05:16 No.31080537 Report

Quoted By: >>31080695

>>31080505
https://3ds.guide/
Won't work on the latest firmware unless you have another hacked 3ds, one of 4 specific games installed, or know how to solder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:06:04 No.31080554 Report

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>>31080505
You either need a friend with a CFW 3ds and a DSIware game or 4 DSIware games that no longer exist. They'll make better method in the future, I'm sure, but have this:
https://3ds.guide/nfirm-downgrade

Also, if you have a new 3ds, you can do it by listening to an MP3:
https://github.com/nedwill/soundhax

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:06:30 No.31080562 Report

Quoted By: >>31080708 >>31080777

>>31080463
Nothing will happen. All freeshop does is send a title ID and title key to Nintendo's servers, then Nintendo's servers give you the file. Basically, since they see you have the title key, they think you bought it.
There's no way of telling how you got it.

>>31080505
Current firmware, possibly in a few weeks, but as of right now, no. 33c3 just happened and they announced a couple new exploits that allow for at least DSiWare downgrading. You can use DSiWare downgrading up to 11.1, though, it'll just take some time since you need to use waithax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:15:33 No.31080695 Report

Quoted By: >>31080746

>>31080537
I hacked my o3ds but not my n3ds, whose firmware is up to date. I havent tried yet, but i thought you could use oothax to homebrew and then use a second 3ds to help downgrade. Is that not the case?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:16:19 No.31080708 Report

Quoted By: >>31080746 >>31080753

>>31080562
So basically they can't tell the difference between eshop and freeshop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:18:22 No.31080746 Report

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>>31080708
Not at all.

>>31080695
On the n3ds I believe you still need a DSiWare game, but I'm not sure. I haven't done that downgrade before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:18:47 No.31080753 Report

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>>31080708
Yep, it's just like you bought the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:20:17 No.31080777 Report

Quoted By: >>31080871 >>31080875 >>31081014 >>31081127

>>31080562
>There's no way of telling how you got it.
But shouldn't your nnid be flagged with buying it? Sorry if I'm retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:24:22 No.31080871 Report

Quoted By: >>31081028

>>31080777
It really depends on how nintendo stores purchase history. But for all intents and purposes a cia installed through something like freeshop is as legit looking as it can get from what people understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:24:35 No.31080875 Report

Quoted By: >>31081028

>>31080777
No.
They have way of telling how you obtained the key. They would have to go into people's homes and personally hunt down people who hacked their 3DS to find out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:26:20 No.31080907 Report

Quoted By: >>31081014

Latefag here

What happened to freeshop? Is it ded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:32:55 No.31081009 Report

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They only fucked up by naming it "Freeshop", indicating intent to facilitate piracy, and by using a modified Eshop logo.

Because otherwise it's not illegal, it doesn't distribute the titlekeys themselves. It's like arguing a password storage program is an account theft tool, you still have to get the encrypted values and all the program does is store them and send them to the server for authentication, it's Nintendo's system itself that delivers the content when the keys match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:33:50 No.31081014 Report

Quoted By: >>31081187

>>31080777
No. Nintendo's anti-piracy is really shoddy, as long as you have a valid ticket installed on your system, you can download a game directly from the eShop just like you would with a legitimate copy.

Basically, they relied entirely on the 3DS's security features to make pirates stay away from their system, but as soon as the 3DS was cracked open they basically fucked themselves.

>>31080907
Nintendo sent a DMCA takedown request to Freeshop's GitHub repo. This means that the homebrew app might not get any future (official) updates, but it should still work for anyone that downloaded it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:34:57 No.31081028 Report

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>>31080871
>>31080875
Okay, because the main concern, as someone I know put it, is that Nintendo will see that people used the freeshop app and based on that fact, they'll ban the people who have logged onto it because it shows up as "Open Source eshop clone" or something in the activity log, rather than banning the users for the games you get from it. But if they don't see that they were obtained through freeshop, then maybe it's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:42:46 No.31081127 Report

Quoted By: >>31081318

>>31080777
They shot themselves in the foot at the very start. They're always behind when it comes to online and didn't want to tell children they had to register an account to purchase games. They probably make a lot of money from eshop gift cards given to children. You can still, to this day, buy games on the eshop without an account. To let people re-download these games they purchased, or ones that came pre-loaded on the system, they assume if the system has the ecrypted title key then it's proof of ownership. Which worked fine until the system was hacked. Now they have literally no way to tell the difference between a legit purchaser and a pirate.

They won't make this mistake again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:47:52 No.31081187 Report

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>>31081014

Unless they use the data from the current build to make an update that forcibly removes FreeShop from your 3DS, of course...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:56:58 No.31081318 Report

Quoted By: >>31081345

>>31081127
>didn't want to tell children they had to register an account to purchase games.
Holy shit I forgot about this. I guess I just set up an account years back incase my 3ds broke and forgot it was optional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:58:50 No.31081345 Report

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>>31081318
Yeah, a lot of people don't even realize it today because you do have to have an account to "buy" free stuff like demos and trailers, but the eshop has never required an account to buy games.

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