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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:10:14 No.31082565 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31082649 >>31082703 >>31082709 >>31082817 >>31082847 >>31082934 >>31082955 >>31083119 >>31085090

Alolan formes that are worse that their regular formes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:10:58 No.31082579 Report

Quoted By: >>31082841

literally none of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:13:19 No.31082617 Report

Quoted By: >>31082793 >>31082881 >>31082888 >>31083634 >>31085470

Alolan Exeggutor is a slow, frail mixed attacker. Normal Exeggutor at least has some special bulk (And lacks a 4x weakness to Ice)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:14:25 No.31082649 Report

Quoted By: >>31085470

>>31082565
Dugtrio and Raticate. That's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:17:13 No.31082703 Report

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>>31082565
That's really it, and only because Arena Trap is one of the most fundamentally broken abilities in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:17:22 No.31082709 Report

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>>31082565

Dugtrio and Raticate are the only ones that are outright worse.

And for Dugtrio, it's only worse because of having 10 less speed and no Arena Trap.

The rest are upgrades, or at least have a niche that makes them more worthwhile than their counterparts.

I.E. Regular Sandslash is completely outclassed by Excadrill at Sand Rush, but Slush Rush gives Alolan Sandslash a niche on hail teams, with Beartic being its only competition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:22:03 No.31082793 Report

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>>31082617
>Normal Exeggutor at least has some special bulk
They both have 75 in special defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:23:01 No.31082817 Report

Quoted By: >>31084099 >>31085470

>>31082565
All of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:24:29 No.31082841 Report

Quoted By: >>31082889

>>31082579

Literally what OP posted

alolan dugtrio is trash both aestethically and competitively, it was just made for the lulz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:24:53 No.31082847 Report

Quoted By: >>31085470

>>31082565
Raticate. Anons already said that it is bad, but why? It's simple: less Speed in exchange of bulk is not bad if it had at least 90 in either Defense or Sp. Defense, and it's typing means that even a Rock Smash from a Machop will leave it with half of HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:26:59 No.31082881 Report

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>>31082617
Both exeggutors have the same defensive stats

Alolan just traded 10 speed points for 10 attack points, which is a really good trade off because it can learn trick room through TM

And having a 4x weakness to ice isn't bad, that's an alright trade off for losing a 4x bug weakness and a dark weakness (which hurts especially in alola, fucking everything can learn dark moves)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:27:21 No.31082888 Report

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>>31082617
I want alolan exeggutor to lose all its Special Attack and put it into attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:27:26 No.31082889 Report

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>>31082841
better shiny at least

1. Dugtrio is slower and not traping
2. A-raticate is defensive with bat typing and slower
3. A-Exeggutor is slower and didn't gets it's attacks swapped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:30:46 No.31082934 Report

Quoted By: >>31083010 >>31083092 >>31083115 >>31083145 >>31085470

>>31082565
all of them
have fun with your recolors

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:32:08 No.31082955 Report

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>>31082565
As others have said, Dugtrio, Raticate and arguably Exeguttor (which is funny when you consider how much they pushed that thing).

Basically all of the meme ones got BTFO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:34:58 No.31083010 Report

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>>31082934
>Alolan Muk's concept
>Ninetales the sash killer and Dual screener
>Raichu, Koko's bff

Thanks I will

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:39:35 No.31083092 Report

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>>31082934
>implying alola muk isn't superior to normal muk in every way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:41:02 No.31083115 Report

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>>31082934
>What are Muk and Ninetales

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:41:26 No.31083119 Report

Quoted By: >>31083197 >>31085470

>>31082565
In terms of design, Dugtrio and Persian. They didn't do anything remotely clever with them, they just took the original Pokémon and added silly hair or gave it a fat face. Good for a laugh, sure, but that's about it.
I don't really like Alolan Raichu or Alolan Golem much either, but they're at least slightly less frivolous than the other two.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:42:57 No.31083145 Report

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>>31082934
Typically for japanese games. As soon as they run out of ideas, they will start to recolor stuff. We've reached this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:45:59 No.31083197 Report

Quoted By: >>31083260

>>31083119
Z Parting Shot, senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:49:44 No.31083260 Report

Quoted By: >>31083295

>>31083197
>In terms of design

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 22:51:55 No.31083295 Report

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>>31083260
Alright, it may have been designed for memes, but I won't say that's a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:08:20 No.31083634 Report

Quoted By: >>31084064

>>31082617
And instead has a 4x weakness to uturn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:29:53 No.31084006 Report

Quoted By: >>31084113 >>31085703

>excellent design twist
>is a fucking monster in battle to boot

what went so right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:33:13 No.31084064 Report

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>>31083634
Don't forget a Knock Off weakness on a pokemon that runs Harvest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:35:12 No.31084099 Report

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>>31082817
A-Muk is a beast

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:35:53 No.31084113 Report

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>>31084006
Only thing wrong is that the flames don't get recolored in the shiny form.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:42:07 No.31084231 Report

Quoted By: >>31084296 >>31085056

>not a single person mentions Alolan Raticate
You guys...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:46:20 No.31084296 Report

Quoted By: >>31084324

>>31084231
I'll bite
5 posts mentioned it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2016 23:47:53 No.31084324 Report

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>>31084296
oh shit you right

my b

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 00:31:14 No.31085056 Report

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>>31084231
I thought it was unwritten that no route 1 shitmons were allowed. Also, tons of people mentioned it (I bit too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 00:33:05 No.31085090 Report

Quoted By: >>31085162 >>31085308

>>31082565
I actually like Alolan Dugtrio design, I don't know why though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 00:37:18 No.31085162 Report

Quoted By: >>31085620

>>31085090
You have are secretly gay for he-man

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 00:44:29 No.31085308 Report

Quoted By: >>31085620

>>31085090
The design I'm fine with, and I do love steel types, but in a usability standpoint, oldtrio is better since it has 10 more speed and arena trap

Lucy Fleefaggot

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Lucy Fleefaggot Thu 29 Dec 2016 00:52:11 No.31085470 Report

Quoted By: >>31086001 >>31087947 >>31089272

>>31082617
>>31082649
>>31082817
>>31082847
>>31082934
>>31083119
AntiYokaiposter was sick so he leaved me a message
''Please post this image and say''be grateful''please''
There's something different too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 01:01:48 No.31085620 Report

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>>31085162
Well I'm gay so that's a given but there is something else
>>31085308
You are right

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 01:06:06 No.31085703 Report

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>>31084006
Actually this thing suck in OU. MAYBE you could make it a spinblocker MAYBE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 01:20:46 No.31086001 Report

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>>31085470
There is literally nothing wrong with any of those designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 03:00:36 No.31087947 Report

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>>31085470
Sandygast and Drampa are great.
Incineroar is shit though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 04:18:09 No.31089272 Report

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>>31085470
The only one there that looks like it vaguely fits in is Turtonator, and wouldn't you know it, it's based on an actual yokai.

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