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Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:40:48 No.31092299 View View Reply Original Report

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What tiers will these guys be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:42:27 No.31092320 Report

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>>31092299
Not OU so who cares?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:42:34 No.31092322 Report

Quoted By: >>31092393

Dead Bird: UU
Tony the Tiger: RU
Transsexual Seal: UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:43:53 No.31092337 Report

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>>31092299
Based baracat: UU
Based trannyseal: UU
NU-male owl: NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:48:10 No.31092393 Report

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>>31092322
You got the owl and cat wrong there champ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:50:14 No.31092408 Report

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>>31092299
All except Incineroar will be UU. Incineroar will join the rest once its HA is released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:50:45 No.31092415 Report

Quoted By: >>31092432 >>31092465

>>31092299
Cat: NU
Seal: UU
Owl: PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:51:38 No.31092422 Report

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>>31092299
Don't we already know the owl is uu?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:52:36 No.31092432 Report

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>>31092415

>implying useless trannyseal will ever see the light of day outside of NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:53:09 No.31092435 Report

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primarina>decidueye>incineroar in 6v6

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Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:54:47 No.31092444 Report

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>>31092432
>implying it won't be OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:55:00 No.31092447 Report

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>>31092432
>Owl and Seal get two useless signature HAs
>Cat gets useful but common HA
I don't know who's getting cucked here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:56:57 No.31092465 Report

Quoted By: >>31094349

>>31092432
He's literally the sp. attacker equivalent of Azumarill...

>>31092415
Why so much hate for the Owl? I mean, he's not the greatest, but PU? He's not Meganium-level awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:57:53 No.31092472 Report

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>>31092299
Primarina will likely be UU based on stats and typing alone. Incineroar might be RU but I'm not sure. What the fuck will it even do? It's like a slightly bulkier Emboar except it can't wallbreak.

Decidueye might be anywhere from NU to UU because Defog is useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 07:57:55 No.31092473 Report

Quoted By: >>31092517 >>31092952

>>31092447
Obviously cat and seal's HAs have use in doubles, but I honestly can't see any practical use for owl's HA in any given scenario other than "it's better than nothing"

also fuck starterfags, please kees

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:01:55 No.31092517 Report

Quoted By: >>31092528

>>31092473
I guess Owl's ability is good on the off chance you're against Rough Skin or similar. What good does Seal's ability do besides turn Hyper Voice into Surf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:02:04 No.31092520 Report

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>>31092444
If it ever gets access to Wish or Recover, it most certainly will be. But for now, UU is where it will be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:03:06 No.31092528 Report

Quoted By: >>31092833

>>31092517
HV breaks through subs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:13:41 No.31092622 Report

Quoted By: >>31092715 >>31094276

>>31092299
Decuideye MIGHT hit OU with a baton pass set. Will probably get stuck in UU because it's grass.

Incineroar will.probably get stuck UU as well because of smogonrocks, but once it gets intimidate, it might break into OU. Decently bulky with high attack, and a speed boosting move in flame charge if it ever catches on.

Primarina will be OU because fairy type, and STAB hyper voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:20:09 No.31092690 Report

Quoted By: >>31094884

>>31092299
Tranny is a busted mon just waiting to happen. All it needs is either Boomburst or a decent recovery move, and it becomes a top threat in OU.

While Tranny suffers from a shit movepool, Cheap DC Comics Ripoff has a phenomenal movepool, but suffers from an awkward stat distribution and mediocre typing. Being both a spinblocker and a defogger is insane, though.

Nacho Libre is easily the worst of the 3. Sure, it has the best HA (as long as tranny never gets Boomburst, that is), but it doesn't really have any niche. In OU, M-Char X outclasses it. In UU, Arcanine outclass it. RU, Entei outclasses it. Hell, EVEN IN NU, Emboar outclasses this piece of garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:22:35 No.31092715 Report

Quoted By: >>31092722

>>31092622
Intimidate Incineroar is just diet Arcanine. It will be UU at best

The only one with a chance to be OU is tranny seal, and that will take GF being generous with move tutors

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Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:23:40 No.31092722 Report

Quoted By: >>31092743 >>31094284

>>31092715
>Move tutors
>Gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:25:33 No.31092743 Report

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>>31092722
Unless you think SM will be the only Gen 7 games, move tutors will eventually be a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:38:03 No.31092833 Report

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>>31092528
While sparkling aria can also do that, hyper voice won't hit your teammate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:42:37 No.31092909 Report

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Pre-HAs:
owltism: RU
baracat: RU
transeal: UU

Post-HAs:
owltism: RU
baracat: UU + ~B+ rank VGC
transeal: UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:44:52 No.31092940 Report

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>>31092422
not really
technically they're all UU right now since none of them made the OU cut
we'll have to see what their usages are like when the UU tier is finalised

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:46:00 No.31092952 Report

Quoted By: >>31092993 >>31093014 >>31094898 >>31096887

>>31092299
Owl: Low UU
Seal: Low or Mid UU
Cat: High UU

Owl and Seal may also fall to RU depending. I think Seal is the most likely to fall just because of all the water or fairy pokemon she'll have to compete with in UU. Cat will always be the best unless the others get some better moves and HA changes to not be totally worthless.

>>31092473
I don't see any value of Primarina's HA even in doubles unless there's some extreme niche based around it like Perish Song or some shit.

>muh subs

Grossly exaggerating the usefulness of that compared to, say, inflicting a burn, especially since Primarina is fragile as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:50:31 No.31092993 Report

Quoted By: >>31093039 >>31094327

>>31092952
You're wrong. Seal could easily rise to OU with the addition of a solid recovery move or Boomburst, Owl is a lost cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:52:17 No.31093014 Report

Quoted By: >>31093039

>>31092952
> Primarina
>fragile

U wot m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:53:44 No.31093039 Report

Quoted By: >>31093085

>>31092993
You're talking about if she gets certain moves. I'm not talking in ifs. Also you are out of your mind if you think Primarina is ever getting Boomburst. I wouldn't even count on a recovery.

>>31093014
>low HP
>low Def
But I'm sure opponents will be nice and only use special attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:58:06 No.31093079 Report

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>>31092299
Owl and seal both UU. Cat will be RU, but will move up to UU if/when it gets Intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 08:58:40 No.31093085 Report

Quoted By: >>31093110 >>31093165 >>31094346

>>31093039
HP is average not low, and you switch him out vs fast phys attackers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 09:01:22 No.31093110 Report

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>>31093085
>him

Don't you dare refer to her by her birth gender! Transphobe!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 09:07:31 No.31093165 Report

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>>31093085
HP is low by comparison to what it should be for a slow special attacker that has no decent recovery. And while you could switch her out, that's just standard eating a hit that would be preferable to be avoided in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 11:32:06 No.31094208 Report

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>>31092299
Best Owl aka Gods Gift: Ubers
Furry Shitty Cartoon Tiger: PU
Tranny Furry Shitty Gay Seal: PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 11:37:41 No.31094241 Report

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>>31092432
Love it or hate it, Primarina hits like a truck, and has god-tier typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 11:42:08 No.31094276 Report

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>>31092622
Decidueye wouldn't have hit OU before tikis buttfucked it. Now it is probably hoping it won't fall below UU, since a ton of solid UU mons will probably set up shop there.

Incineroar is just too slow. It does counter a number of things handily (Blood Totem, for starters), but "Bulky, slow fire type" didn't work for Emboar before it. RU at best, possibly NU.

Primarina has a future with a scarf, but otherwise it's too frail to really excel. It might have a place in UU, assuming UU doesn't get shaken up too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 11:43:37 No.31094284 Report

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>>31092722
Oh, right, because GF would just not add tutors in after not having them in the first game like they have done literally every other generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 11:49:14 No.31094327 Report

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>>31092993
I don't think so. OU isn't what it was last gen. STAB boomburst with better typing is good, make no mistake, but i'm not sure its enough to survive in a meta populated with an abundance of tikis, genies, and other bs. Recovery is irrelevant, because Primarina will not ever get a chance to use it. It be forced to run a scarf so it isn't outsped and OHKO'd by literally anything, and even then it will need to avoid faster threats. Primarina can't survive enough to make recovery viable, and would have a fairly limited list of Pokemon it both outspeeds and OHKOs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 11:51:34 No.31094346 Report

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>>31093085
>Average HP
>In a tier made up of things with mostly good or better HP
Look, I'm sorry. It's frail. Being countered by literally any fast physical attacker is not OU material, when things like Garchomp and Top Kek run the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 11:51:42 No.31094349 Report

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>>31092465
He is really only good in OU, but didn't manage to become it. Kinda like Gen 5 Stoutland, which rotted in the dephts of NU but was one of the best weather sweepers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 12:57:48 No.31094853 Report

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>>31092432
>Implying it will even be allowed in NU with that typing and special attack

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Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 13:00:49 No.31094884 Report

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>>31092690
>While Tranny suffers from a shit movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 13:02:18 No.31094898 Report

Quoted By: >>31094965

>>31092952
>Primarina going to RU and NU

Can we kill this meme? Primarina is never going to be allowed in RU or NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 13:11:21 No.31094965 Report

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>>31094898
Primarina is good in UU even now with all the semi-broken stuff, no way it's gonna go lower than that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 13:16:55 No.31095005 Report

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>>31092299
Owl:NU
Tony:BL2
Tumblr:RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 15:53:33 No.31096645 Report

Quoted By: >>31096814 >>31096973

Incineroar and Decidueye helped battle against the cuck fugs in Battle of Alola. They should be OU imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 16:04:43 No.31096814 Report

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>>31096645
>Decidueye battling
>in Battle of Alola
Did you mean primarina?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 16:10:50 No.31096887 Report

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>>31092952
Incineroar isn't going to be high UU. It's weak to pebbles and four common attacking types. What does it even do in UU? It can't even beat stuff like Scizor because that carries Superpower and outspeeds it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Dec 2016 16:17:17 No.31096973 Report

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>>31096645
Primarina was the most used starter in Battle of Alola

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