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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:09:26 No.31105298 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31105376 >>31105425 >>31105519 >>31105625 >>31105789

ITT: post pokemon that are now completely outclassed and are now obsolete thanks to Sun and Moon.

For me, Now with Tapu Lele. Mr Mime and Gardevoir are now completely useless

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:10:10 No.31105315 Report

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Of course the First Psychic Fairy in the pokedex

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:10:29 No.31105324 Report

Quoted By: >>31105376

;_;

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:12:38 No.31105376 Report

Quoted By: >>31105427 >>31105839

>>31105298
Mega Gardevoir will still see use when/if it gets released.

Mr. Mime was always dog shit.

>>31105324
Protean Greninja is still viable because it has Gunk Shot and Ash-Greninja is probably getting banned sometime in the future anyway.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:12:56 No.31105384 Report

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The only thing saving this pokemon is that it has rapid spin. Otherwise Toxapex outdoes it.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:14:49 No.31105425 Report

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>>31105298
>Fairy offense is outclassed by Psychic offense
they fulfill entirely different roles anon

also mime was never good

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:14:56 No.31105427 Report

Quoted By: >>31105506 >>31105574

>>31105376
Still A life orbed tapu Lele with moon blast does close to as much damage as M-Gardevoir and it doesn't waste a mega slot. Also Lele has more physical bulk than M gardevoir. The only thing M-Gardevoir has is that it is slightly faster than Lele, but Lele has protection from priority

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:17:21 No.31105487 Report

Quoted By: >>31105537 >>31105574

>>31105425
>Implying Lele doesn't have good fairy offence too
Remember Lele can hold a life orb which gives a 1.3x boost which is better than Pixilates 1.2x boost. also Moonblast has 5 more base power than hyper voice

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:18:04 No.31105506 Report

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>>31105427
Lele is probably gonna get banned too, anon. It's S-Rank in Smogon viability rankings and there's almost nothing in the tier that takes two Psychics.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:18:30 No.31105519 Report

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>>31105298
>it's been outclassed since it's introductory generation

it hurts to know my favorite is basically a pidgey with fire/psychic typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:19:26 No.31105537 Report

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>>31105487
literally nobody uses life orb lele, and if they do, m-gardevoir has the advantage of actually outspeeding stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:21:22 No.31105574 Report

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>>31105427
>>31105487
252+ SpA Pixilate Gardevoir-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mew: 168-198 (41.5 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mew: 160-188 (39.6 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:21:40 No.31105582 Report

Quoted By: >>31105634

>>31105519
Delphox was never good. It is Pursuit, Shadow sneak, EQ, and Sucker punch bait. It is weak to some of the most common moves in competitive. Clearly the worst of the 3 Kalos starters

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:24:00 No.31105623 Report

Quoted By: >>31105668 >>31105863

>>31105574
But is it worth wasting your mega slot for that? also a specs Lele should do better although the locking into one move.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:24:02 No.31105625 Report

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>>31105298

She'll never be outclassed in my heart., faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:24:26 No.31105634 Report

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>>31105582
I don't think he ever said it was good.
>it's been outclassed since it's introductory generation

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:26:02 No.31105668 Report

Quoted By: >>31105710

>>31105623
It isn't a "waste" if the mon is good. Lele isn't as fast as Gardevoir, so clearly you pick Gardevoir if you want a speedier Fairy wallbreaker, while you pick Lele if you want a choiced Psychic wallbreaker.

You can have a team without a mega and do fine, it's not really a "waste" to use the slot on Gardevoir. It'd be a waste using it on Chomp, that's the only mon where it'd be a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:27:37 No.31105710 Report

Quoted By: >>31105727 >>31105860

>>31105668
Also Abomasnow and Scizzor. I feel their megas don't stack up to the originals

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:28:35 No.31105727 Report

Quoted By: >>31105761

>>31105710
Mega scizor is a total upgrade.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:30:22 No.31105761 Report

Quoted By: >>31105806 >>31105877

>>31105727
Why not just regular scizzor banded or life orbed?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:31:45 No.31105789 Report

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>>31105298
>click hyper voice
>bad

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:32:27 No.31105806 Report

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>>31105761
Bulk

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:34:42 No.31105839 Report

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>>31105376
Mr Mime is actually godlike in PU.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:36:00 No.31105860 Report

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>>31105710
the only reason people didn't use mega scizor was because og scizor is still really good and other megas made better use of the spot
it's running rampant prebank since there's only a few available gr8 megas

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Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:36:19 No.31105863 Report

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>>31105623
>mega slot

Is this 2014?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:37:04 No.31105877 Report

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>>31105761
Bulk, not choice locked, doesn't take LO damage.

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