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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 07:30:36 No.31152124 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31152477 >>31152503 >>31152650 >>31152869 >>31153598 >>31155460 >>31155498

>People bitching about Toucannon

>When Taillow and Swellow look like their real world counterparts, and Pidgey looks generic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:03:54 No.31152459 Report

Quoted By: >>31156591 >>31157667

Toucannon would be cool if it was just its own single stage pokemon instead of a tacked on wallbreaker to sn evolution line that seemed to be going for a speedy sweeper.

Not to mention it just doesn't look like it fits since its a goddamn toucan. It's like having Pidgeotto evolve into a peacock for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:05:43 No.31152477 Report

Quoted By: >>31153641 >>31156448

>>31152124
I think people are more mad about how a woodpecker becomes a Toucan and how a Toucan can lead to many interesting designs but they took the easy way out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:08:48 No.31152503 Report

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>>31152124
Are saying you were expecting Toucan after woodpecker and bigger woodpecker?

You don't feel like Toucan comes from left field, even a little?

That's what's caused all the commotion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:15:03 No.31152553 Report

Quoted By: >>31152634 >>31152745 >>31152925 >>31153669

>Fish evolves into octopus
>Sparrow evolves into stork
>Seagull evolves into pelican
>Bat evolves into wyvern
These are fine.

>Woodpecker evolves into toucan
This is not fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:16:34 No.31152568 Report

Quoted By: >>31152702

Here's the thing though; Taillow, Swellow, and Pidgey are old pokemon. Gamefreak should've learned by now, after 20 years, that nobody wants "my mom's X".

But lo and behold fucking Toucannon, with it's design made of 100% toucan and 0% cannon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:23:36 No.31152634 Report

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>>31152553
>anyone actually thinking Octillery is fine
Your making shit up. Wingull still retains much of its appearance so you can tell that Pelipper is meant to be its evolved form. Fearow I'll grant you design wise but it at least retains its purpose in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:25:41 No.31152650 Report

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>>31152124
>woodpecker evolves into toucan
>literally just a toucan
I like Toucanon, but it should have been a single stage Miltank-like mon with a proper evolution for Trumpbeak

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:30:51 No.31152702 Report

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>>31152568
The way it's tail looks kind of invokes the overall shape of a Cannon.

Not a whole lot but still does.

If anything I'm more pissed it's so fucking slow and doesn't learn a flying multi hit move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:34:28 No.31152745 Report

Quoted By: >>31155475

>>31152553
Design elements from those Pokemon atleast carry over to their evolutions, physically, conceptually, or both.

Toucannon just seems too left field. There was no hint of a cannon theme coming from Pikipek and Trumbeak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:46:37 No.31152869 Report

Quoted By: >>31152907

>>31152124
>people bitching about Toucannon
>after relentlessly bitching about how Pokemon never look like normal animals anymore
He's legit my favorite from this gen. He's still just as stylized any other "realistic" pokemon. And one anon pointed out that there's some subtely in how it's eyebrow looks like a flintlock trigger and the nostril looks like where you'd insert gunpowder or something in old guns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:49:34 No.31152907 Report

Quoted By: >>31152958

>>31152869
The problem isn't that its normal looking. You'd know that if you actually read what's been said here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:51:32 No.31152925 Report

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>>31152553
>Fish evolves into octopus
Actually is
>pistol evolves into canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 08:55:20 No.31152958 Report

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>>31152907
I don't care about the "out of left field" complaint. It's already been pointed out that there are similar situations already and that toucans and woodpeckers aren't incredibly far off from another. And complaining about its place in the evolutionary line is a completely separate matter from the complaints about it's design that OP was alluding to in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 10:35:50 No.31153598 Report

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>>31152124
All I'm really bothered by is that he doesn't have the speed or bulk to put his attack to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 10:42:55 No.31153641 Report

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>>31152477
This right here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 10:47:01 No.31153669 Report

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>>31152553
>stork
Fearow isn't a stork

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 11:05:39 No.31153768 Report

Quoted By: >>31155437

>There is an alternate universe where we had a cannon themed fire cat starter Pokemon, and a wrestling heel themed regional bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 15:13:59 No.31155437 Report

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>>31153768
we already have a wrestler bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 15:17:29 No.31155460 Report

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>>31152124
It's just a toucan. Swellow and Pidgeot at least look awesome. This is just a toucan. A slow, useless toucan. And don't come with "muh angery and heat cannon" not only are toucans pretty pissy most of the time but their beaks also produce heat. It's literally JUST MY MOMS TOUCAN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 15:20:28 No.31155475 Report

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>>31152745
One of Trumbeak's animations for thngs like Bullet Seed literally has it open the ends of it's beak to fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 15:23:55 No.31155498 Report

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>>31152124
Taillow and Swellow are not as strong since they are just 2-stagers. Pidgey is base form, Toucannon is 2nd evo.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:03:21 No.31156365 Report

Quoted By: >>31157564

Toucannon is the best bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:11:44 No.31156448 Report

Quoted By: >>31156476

>>31152477
Both woodpeckers and toucans are Piciformes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:13:54 No.31156476 Report

Quoted By: >>31156494

>>31156448
that does not mean they look the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:15:28 No.31156494 Report

Quoted By: >>31156530

>>31156476
not anon but

it was apparently a good enough reason for GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:18:36 No.31156530 Report

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>>31156494
yeah cause they couldn't be asked to create a complete and final woodpecker looking pokemon so they just took a toucan and made it angry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:24:05 No.31156591 Report

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>>31152459
>Not to mention it just doesn't look like it fits since its a goddamn toucan. It's like having Pidgeotto evolve into a peacock for no reason.
So it fits perfectly in the pokemon series? Because that's pretty typical for GF to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:35:42 No.31157460 Report

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>Avoid the "it just gets bigger" complaint by having the pokemon cleverly evolve into another species that's part of the same Order.
>Design it realistically because everyone complains that mons got too unrealistic/non-animal like
>get shit on anyway

what retards expected a woodpecker to stay a woodpecker? This is GF, pokemon constantly and consistently have had inspirations from multiple creatures.

But anyway, there's no point in arguing about this. /vp/ will always be mad about something. There's no pleasing everybody, after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:45:25 No.31157564 Report

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>>31156365
FUCKING PIDGEOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:52:11 No.31157667 Report

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>>31152459
Woodpeckers and toucans are both in the same family, piciforms (hence "pikipek"). They're more closely related than most bird evolutionary lines.

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