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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:39:14 No.31156759 View View Reply Original Report

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Fix them, either limiting Pokemon in GSC/HGSS or updating to SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:44:55 No.31156823 Report

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>>31156759
Nothing needs to be fixed. Literally kill yourself OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:47:33 No.31156855 Report

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>>31156759
>Pidgey, Spearow, Hoothoot

>Ledian, Spinarak, Scyther

>Clefairy, Furret, Miltank

>Misdreavus, Ghastly, Haunter, Gengar

>Primeape, Heracross, Poliwrath

>Magneton, Skarmory, Steelix

>Sneasel, Dewgong, Piloswine

>No changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:51:14 No.31156907 Report

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>>31156759
give buggo a pinsir or heracross
give morty a misdreavus
give chuck a machoke
replace one of the magnemites with a magneton, maybe give her a scizor
give pryce a cloyster or lapras

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:56:15 No.31156968 Report

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Falkner: Pidgey Taillow Noctowl
Bugsy: Dewpider Pineco Scyther
Whitney: Clefairy Stufful Snubbull Miltank
Morty: Sandygast Drifloon Misdreavus Gengar
Chuck: Poliwrath Machoke Primeape Gurdurr
Jasmine: Steelix Magneton Bronzor Skarmory
Pryce: Sneasel Dewgong Pilowswine Vanillish
Clair: Dragonair Gyarados Ampharos Charizard Kingdra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 17:58:25 No.31156997 Report

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>>31156968
>gen 2
how dumb are you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:07:01 No.31157090 Report

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>>31156759
>Normal type gym leader
>uses Fairy type pokemon
Explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:08:47 No.31157112 Report

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>>31157090
>>>>>

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:44:09 No.31157552 Report

Quoted By: >>31157811 >>31159368

Gave it a try.
Put a bunch of stuff on there just for some team variety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:59:05 No.31157773 Report

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>>31157090
>>31157112

It was a different time anon. . .

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 18:59:35 No.31157778 Report

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>>31156759

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:02:11 No.31157811 Report

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>>31157552
>>31157778
>taking away the only thing that made Bugsy challenging
y tho

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:03:12 No.31157820 Report

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>>31157778
>+120 BST

Anonymäus

Anonymäus Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:09:46 No.31157919 Report

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>>31156759
> Falkner
Give him a spearow

> Bugsy
Add Beedrill and remove Kakuna

> Whitney
Nothing

> Morty
Remove a Haunter, add Misdreavious

> Chuck
Add Machoke

> Jasmine
Remove both Magnemites and add Skarmory and Scizor

> Pryce
Nothing

> Clair
Nothing There's really nothing you can do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:09:46 No.31157920 Report

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>>31156759
>Falkner: Pidgey, Hoothoot, Pidgeotto
>Bugsy: Butterfree, Beedrill, Scyther
>Whitney: Clefairy, Furret, Miltank
>Morty: Misdreavus, Gastly, Haunter, Gengar
>Chuck: Machoke, Hitmonlee, Primeape, Poliwrath
>Jasmine: Magnemite, Magneton, Skarmory, Steelix
>Pryce: Sneasel, Jynx, Dewgong, Piloswine
>Clair: Dragonair x3, Gyarados, Kingdra

Anonymäus

Anonymäus Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:11:06 No.31157949 Report

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>>31157778
No. You can't do that to Lance. Now he's not a Flying-Type Champion!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:14:14 No.31158008 Report

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>>31156759
+Noctowl
-Metapod and Kakuna, +Ledian and Ariados
+Snubbul
-Haunter, +Misdreavus
+Machoke
-Magnemite, +Magneton and Skarmory
-Seel, +Sneasel and Jynx
+Seadra

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:15:16 No.31158031 Report

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>>31156759
i never stopped to to think about it but how the hell have we never gotten a crane pokemon? The Redcrown is a classic Japanese icon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:19:06 No.31158088 Report

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worst gym leaders

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:24:57 No.31158182 Report

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I could list numerous things, but IMO the most glaring thing is Clair.
Did they really need a dragon type gym when lance, who has superior pokemon to even her, is part of the elite four?
Not once but twice.

Just replace her with a dark type setup.
The entire reason dark types were made is to counter psychics which essentially had no counters in the first game, but they're so underutilized that psychics still dominate everything on that chart.

And no, rocket members don't count, not when your average houndour carrying grunt uses things twenty levels below anything you're carrying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:46:30 No.31158566 Report

Quoted By: >>31158582 >>31160681 >>31162694

I don't think there's anything to "fix", but it's nice to go back with hindsight and imagine some quality upgrades.

Some perspective on these: I only used Kanto Pokemon where it was appropriate to so do, since Johto and Kanto are neighbors.

Falkner keeps his Pidgeotto since he has a very samurai-esque aesthetic and falconry fits this; it also helps to show new players that this adventure will contain both new and old Pokemon.

Bugsy is supposed to be a walking encyclopedia on bugs, so there's a good variety of Johto bugs on here now with no annoying as shit Scyther Fury Cutter spam. This helps his rematch be more true to the lore, as he can add Kanto bugs to his team to reflect his growing research.

Whitney is supposed to be using cute basic white girl Pokemon, and with the games switching up types on us for a lot of former Normies, I decided to let her team reflect a spoiled exotic pet owning rich girl aesthetic that she always seemed to have.

Morty got shafted because only one new Ghost got added, but it's his signature mon now.

Chuck...I don't even know why they fucked Chuck so bad. Now he has a proper team still including the area-appropriate Poliwrath.

I still don't understand why Jasmine wasn't an Electric-type trainer. Regardless, she keeps her thematically appropriate Magneton and gets a region-friendly Skarmory.

Pryce, my favorite. There's something so perfect about such a frigid Scrooge of a man having a happy go lucky present-lobbing Delibird on his team. Sneasel fits his visual and character aesthetic as well, no clue why he didn't have one before.

Claire is a big bitch and her team stays the same because >no new dragons lol

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:47:32 No.31158582 Report

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>>31158566
>>31158566
>>31158566

forgot pic, fuck me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 19:54:52 No.31158701 Report

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>>31158182
>Did they really need a dragon type gym when lance, who has superior pokemon to even her, is part of the elite four?
>Just replace her with a dark type setup.
yeah because its not like the elite four has a dark type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:10:32 No.31158949 Report

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>>31156759
Nothing needs to change though.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:11:34 No.31158972 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:22:57 No.31159154 Report

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>>31158972
Pretty much how Gamefreak makes gym leaders, except now they limit it to 5 pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:27:23 No.31159220 Report

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>>31156759

>Falkner
Hoothoot
Pidgeotto

>Bugsy
Ledyba
Kakuna
Heracross

>Whitney
Clefairy
Teddiursa (makes literally no sense why she doesn't have one)
Miltank

>Morty
Replace the Gastly with a Misdrevous

>Chuck
Give him a Hitmontop

>Jasmine
Make one of the Magnemites a Magneton
Give her a Skarmory

>Pryce
replace the Seel with a Jynx.
give him a Sneasel or a Delibird

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:31:09 No.31159281 Report

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>>31156759

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:37:37 No.31159368 Report

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>>31157552
Falkner should definitely have a Gligar, if only because of the comment he made about being insulted that people would write flying types off because of electric types.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:39:57 No.31159405 Report

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made this a long time ago

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 20:56:52 No.31159626 Report

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:01:27 No.31159679 Report

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>>31159626
>throwing heracross and scyther at the player by gym 2

rip chikorita pickers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:03:08 No.31159703 Report

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>>31159281
desu why not just raichu instead of pikachu lightball

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:03:09 No.31159704 Report

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>>31159679
More like rip anyone not using a rock type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:12:15 No.31159859 Report

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>>31159679
misty has starmie as a second gym, it's fine

though i think heracross should be reserved for chuck, and pinsir exists, so he can go in the bug slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:13:03 No.31159868 Report

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>>31159679
I made that one, and I always pick chikorita

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:13:12 No.31159872 Report

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>>31156759
>>31156855
Pretty much this but I'd give Whitney Teddiursa instead of a Furret because it suits her better.

I'd take a Ghastly from Morty as the Gym would be crawling with em already.

I'd also give Chuck Hitmontop instead of Heracross. Even if it doesn't suit him.

A trainer in chuck gym should use Heracross but reference the fact he's also trained with Bugsy.

Pryce should get a useful deliberd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:14:12 No.31159885 Report

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>>31159859
The problem is: You can only find Heracross in azalea town. Gym leader is a Bug type trainer... doesn't use Heracross

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:16:57 No.31159919 Report

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Give falkner noctowl instead of pidgey
Give bugsy ledyba/ledian and spinarak instead of cocoons
Give whitney snubbull
Give morty misdreavus instead of gastly
Give chuck heracross why the fuck doesn't he have one, also replace primeape with hitmontop
Magnemite=>magneton, and skarmory
Delet seel and dewgong for sneasel and jynx
Delet clair and replace with literally anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:23:50 No.31160016 Report

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>>31159885
scyther is hard enough, throwing a heracross into the mix makes it too hard. the kakuna and metapod definitely do nothing for bugsy, but there are better answers than heracross, such as ledian or ariados. I'd give him forretress before I gave him heracross.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:28:01 No.31160085 Report

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>>31157778
>replacing Bruno's ace
Shameful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 21:42:23 No.31160298 Report

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> Spearow, Zubat, Pidgeotto

> Butterfree, Ledyba, Spinarak, Scyther

> Clefairy, Raticate, Miltank

> Haunter x2, Misdreavus, Gengar

> Primeape, Hitmonchan, Poliwrath

> Magneton x2, Forretress, Steelix

> Cloyster, Jynx, Dewgong x2, Piloswine

> no changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 22:06:10 No.31160681 Report

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>>31158566
>I still don't understand why Jasmine wasn't an Electric-type trainer
gen 2 gym leaders used types that werent used in kanto

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 22:11:26 No.31160769 Report

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2017 23:26:44 No.31161977 Report

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>>31156759
What about a GROUND trainer in GSC/HGSS

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2017 00:02:03 No.31162506 Report

Quoted By: >>31162559

I updated it for Gen 7. The only pokemon that aren't available in HGSS are Glaceon (which should've evolved in ice cave anyways) and Alola forms, which I thought provided some cool opportunities for these trainers. I'm sure at one point they would've gone on vacation or ran into a tourist from alola who was willing to trade.
Everything is moved up to BW2 Challenge Mode's level curve, which requires moving some stuff around. Wild Levels, which are notoriously bad in johto, are boosted to provide decent grinding locations. Slowpoke Well now has to take place after Bugsy to raise the Rocket levels and provide more exp before Whitney. Chuck->Jasmine->Pryce has to be an enforced order so keep wild levels at a decent place. An event needs to be added between Chuck and Jasmine for leveling (Drayano's SacredGold/StormSilver added a rocket takeover of the safari zone which would work perfectly here). Radio Tower Takeover now needs to take place right after the player raids the base in Mahagony town to provide levels for Pryce.
This was a lot of fun to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2017 00:04:52 No.31162559 Report

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>>31162506
also I changed the TMs to work with the G7 TMs.
Falkner-Morty:same as HGSS
Chuck: Bulk Up
Jasmine: Gyro Ball
Pryce: Hail (same as HGSS)
Clair: Dragon Tail

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2017 00:13:52 No.31162694 Report

Quoted By: >>31163561

>>31157920
>5 mons on Clair
Name one gym leader besides Wallace who's had more than 4 in their first match.
>>31158566
>>31158582
Pretty damn good, I liked your commentary/reasoning over each of your choices. Also;
>Pryce, my favorite
Nice taste, Pryce is underrated.
>>31158972
I like this one.
>>31159281
>Day/Night and version exclusive challenges
Neat concept, with some good overall choices.

As a side note, I really like these discussions about how we would personally change around the games mainly so I can gauge how shit all of your tastes arejust kidding, I love you faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2017 01:06:47 No.31163561 Report

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>>31162694
>Name one gym leader besides Wallace who's had more than 4 in their first match.
Giovanni. First match where you fight him as Gym Leader, anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2017 02:19:21 No.31164827 Report

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>>31156759
1st. Natu,hoothoot, and pigeot

2nd. Spinrak,Ledbya,hearcross

3rd. Aipom,teddursa,miltank

4th. Misdreavus, Haunter,Gengar,Mismagius(HGSS)

5th. All Hitmons and poilwrath

6th. Magneton,Scizor,Skarmiry,Steelix

7th. Jynx,snesal (weavile HGSS) dewgong, piloswine(mamoswine HGSS)

8th. Dragonair,puptiar,gyardoss,Kingdra

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2017 02:20:49 No.31164860 Report

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>>31159368
Falkner is also a bird trainer so obviously he should only have bird pokemon. Gligar isn't a bird.

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