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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 06:04:11 No.31189313 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31189355 >>31189883 >>31189941 >>31190183 >>31192779

What do you think the most ridiculous type advantage or disadvantage is? Reply to other posts on the thread if you think you've got an explanation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 06:06:20 No.31189355 Report

Quoted By: >>31189365 >>31189519

>>31189313
fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 06:06:53 No.31189365 Report

Quoted By: >>31194664

>>31189355
Which advantages or disadvantages do you think are irrational about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 06:17:15 No.31189519 Report

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>>31189355
Psychic should become SE against Fairy and Psychic should resist Fairy, imo. This buffs one of the most nerfed types and nerfs Fairy, the most powerful type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 06:43:52 No.31189883 Report

Quoted By: >>31189912 >>31190099 >>31190278

>>31189313
Depends on what we're talking about here.

Steel is the best type defensively as it resists 9 types (it used to be 11 before Gen 6). Plus many steels are bulky as shit and have sturdy or levitate as well.

Offensively, Ground is probably the best with a powerful widely-accessible move in Earthquake and an advantage over 5 other types. You also have a certain land shark that is still a powerhouse to push this even further. Fire, fighting, ice and rock are right behind it with four type advantages each.

Grass and Rock are both at the bottom defensively with five weaknesses each, while Dragon is the worst offensively with it only being super-effective against itself and negated by the common Fairy type. Dragon type Pokemon tend to be pretty powerful however which makes up for the lack of type advantage it has (especially after a few Dragon Dances).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 06:45:57 No.31189912 Report

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>>31189883
Actually scratch that, Fighting is up there with Ground offensively as it has actually 5 advantages (forgot about ice).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 06:48:16 No.31189941 Report

Quoted By: >>31190151 >>31191024 >>31191835 >>31191915 >>31195326

>>31189313
I don't know that I'd call many of them "ridiculous" but if I had to list contenders, maybe...

Bug weak to Fire is a little stupidly specific

Ground and Rock both being weak to both Grass and Water is stupid. If anything Ground should be fine against Water, and Rock fine against Grass.

Ice weak to Fighting is a little arbitrary, same with Steel weak to Fighting

Flying weak to Rock

Evil weak to Bug

Poison weak to Psychic

Ice weak to Rock and Ice weak to Steel

Fire weak to Rock for that matter. You'd think Fire'd be weak to Ground but not resisted by it, and then resisted by Rock but not weak to it.

Ghosts weak to Evil

Fighting weak to Fairy

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 07:00:22 No.31190099 Report

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>>31189883
>TFW when you realise you misunderstood the topic completely
Thought it meant ridiculous in terms of number of advantages one has over another

Going to kill myself now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 07:04:34 No.31190151 Report

Quoted By: >>31191978 >>31194585

>>31189941
>Evil
stop this meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 07:07:28 No.31190183 Report

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>>31189313
Water resisting Ice I thought was pretty ridiculous. Isn't ice just frozen water? Like with Ice Beam, if you shoot a beam of freezing cold energy at some water, shouldn't it freeze the water? I know we have Freeze Dry and Scald is an exception to this, but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 07:13:59 No.31190271 Report

Quoted By: >>31190788

Bug being resisted by ghost. Seriously, what the absolute fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 07:14:38 No.31190278 Report

Quoted By: >>31190756

>>31189883
Dragon is a great type to hit neutrally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 07:17:21 No.31190300 Report

Quoted By: >>31190776 >>31191678

>>31189519
Psychic is fine. Make Bug SE against Fairy, Bug's offensive advantages are fucking terrible.

In fact, here's a better idea: remove Fairy entirely, make Ice immune to Dragons, and make Fighting not hit Ice super effectively. Done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 08:03:16 No.31190756 Report

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>>31190278
You could say the same about Normal and Ghost type (or any other type with few resistances).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 08:06:30 No.31190776 Report

Quoted By: >>31191859 >>31194653

>>31190300
>remove Fairy entirely

No, fairly deserves to exist because it's useful as a conceptual category: jigglypuff, clefairy, and the other blobby normal types needed their own type even though Audino and Chansey didn'tget changed to it for some reason

Here's what you do:

>fairy and ghost no longer resists bugs, bug is se vs fairy
>ice is now se on water and resists water
>rock resists electric, is neutral against/when attacked by ground, is neutral when attacked by steel OR is neutral against steel
>electric is se against steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 08:09:38 No.31190788 Report

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>>31190271
Bugs can't annoy the dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 08:40:49 No.31191024 Report

Quoted By: >>31191611 >>31191643 >>31194602

>>31189941
>poison weak to psychic
Can we talk about this? How the fuck does it make any sense? If anything there are a lot of poison types that damage or attack human brain. Poison should at least be SE against it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:15:08 No.31191611 Report

Quoted By: >>31191643 >>31194602

>>31191024
Healing power of the mind.

40% !//v.13zk5M

40% !//v.13zk5M Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:18:51 No.31191631 Report

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What's the logic behind Dark being super effective against Ghost? You'd think Ghosts would love the dark.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:20:34 No.31191643 Report

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>>31191024
Maybe it's because psychics can tell when something is poisoned so they won't eat poisoned foods or drink poisoned drinks and the like. That's how I've always seen it and it still makes no sense but >>31191611 is probably right. Psychics have too much control over the fine mechanics of their body to be overwhelmed by poison.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:22:33 No.31191657 Report

Quoted By: >>31191690

Why is poison weak against ground?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:25:55 No.31191678 Report

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>>31190300
>make ice immune to dragons
how does that make any sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:26:25 No.31191683 Report

Quoted By: >>31191898

Water should be weak against poison. Rock should resist electric, dragon should be not very effective on fairy. Ice needs another resist and fairy needs to be not effective on some another type or two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:27:49 No.31191690 Report

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>>31191657
Certain kinds of dirts and clays are helpful for absorbing and eliminating toxins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:48:47 No.31191835 Report

Quoted By: >>31194602

>>31189941

>Evil weak to Bug
Can't deceive a hivemind or a mind too different/alien from you. They are indifferent to edgelording, and can survive all sorts of war, maybe even to their benefit.

>Poison weak to Psychic
Removing /neutralizing toxins is pretty smart, and "magical" when counting spiritual/gypsy healers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:52:07 No.31191854 Report

Quoted By: >>31191865

Why do bug and fighting resist each other?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:52:40 No.31191859 Report

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>>31190776
>le fairies are all pink blobs
End this meme and your life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:53:40 No.31191865 Report

Quoted By: >>31191880

>>31191854
Have you ever tried punching a fly? Have you ever been a mosquito trying to drink blood from someone's rock hard abs?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:57:06 No.31191880 Report

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>>31191865
>Have you ever tried punching a fly?
I mean I get your point but that's really funny to imagine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 10:59:15 No.31191898 Report

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>>31191683
Grass should resist fairy. Most fairies live in forests/green areas, and most fairy tales take place in those.

Fairies are nature-loving as confirmed by their weakness to poison and steel, and the Tapus. Their attacks should be resisted by "nature" itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 11:01:27 No.31191915 Report

Quoted By: >>31194602

>>31189941
bug weak to dark because they're cowards

poison weak to sick to be like getting through illness thanks to positive attitude?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 11:14:05 No.31191978 Report

Quoted By: >>31192755

>>31190151
Dark→Evil
Grass→Plant
Flying→Air
Fairy→Magic
Get over it

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 13:11:43 No.31192755 Report

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>>31191978
Outright labeling a pokemon "evil" is just stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 13:14:04 No.31192779 Report

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>>31189313
Fire resisting Fairy makes absolutely no sense to me. Grass would've made more sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 16:36:46 No.31194585 Report

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>>31190151
>The Dark type
>Japanese: あくタイプ
>Aku Taipu
>lit: "Evil" "type"
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 16:38:35 No.31194602 Report

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>>31191024
>>31191611
>>31191835
>>31191915
remember that Psychic is not "mind over matter" it's literally ESP, as in Extra Sensory Perception. It's specifically and explicitly psychic powers, not just general intelligence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 16:42:08 No.31194653 Report

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>>31190776
>Ice should be super effective on water
I was always confused why this was never the case. It just seems logical to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 16:43:27 No.31194664 Report

Quoted By: >>31195388

>>31189365
It's two weaknesses are to the two most un-offensive types out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 17:20:05 No.31195094 Report

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>>31192755
in japanese Dark type is the ''Aku'' type which means Evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 17:39:41 No.31195326 Report

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>>31189941
ok ill try

>Bug weak to Fire is a little stupidly specific
about as much as the others

>If anything Ground should be fine against Water, and Rock fine against Grass.
water covers ground. enviromments errode rock

>Ice weak to Fighting is a little arbitrary, same with Steel weak to Fighting
if fighting beats rock, it can beat ice
for steel- martial skill is greater than martial weapons?

>flying weak to rock
"kill two birds with one stone"

>evil weak to bug
yeah i dont know

>poison weak to psychic
medicene(knowledge) beats illness

>ice weak to rock and steel
both can easily crush ice, like fighting

>fire weak to rock
great sense actually. lava is how rocks are formed. heat and shit is one way rocks evolve (ignious, sedimentary, metamorphic)

>ghosts weak to evil
caspers BTFO by his uncles
demons beat ghosts
ill intent is more destructive than neutral
shit i dunno

>fighting weak to fairy
you cant fight folklore/mythos/hidden species
grace beats brawns
purity beats fury

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 17:44:56 No.31195388 Report

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>>31194664
Poison has decent variety. Steel is meh, though it's been worse in the past.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2017 17:49:52 No.31195432 Report

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i love bug but
>bug being an entire type
???

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