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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:39:26 No.31214635 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31214757 >>31214782 >>31214871 >>31214888 >>31215331

>slow
>poor bulk
>Physical stats but Contrary works off the Special Stats
>outclassed by other grass types no matter what you run
>literally only has a niche is as a defogger, and not even a good one at that.
Being Lurantis is suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:41:07 No.31214654 Report

Quoted By: >>31214676 >>31214677

don't worry it'll get Superpower as a Dream World ability in the gen 5 remakes :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:42:34 No.31214671 Report

Quoted By: >>31214696

>contrary works off Special stats

It works with Physical ones, too. Just don't get any good moves that work with it Physically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:43:04 No.31214676 Report

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>>31214654
You know that the sad thing is that even with that Lurantis would be mediocre at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:43:06 No.31214677 Report

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>>31214654
>you can't teach Spinda Superpower even though it gets it in DW
DW can go fuck itself. Like 95% of everything else was either an Egg Move or a Tutor Move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:44:20 No.31214692 Report

Quoted By: >>31214745

Hey, at least it's not Grass/Bug type. Despite being an insect.

OP if you wanna play with pokemon whose designs you like competitive is not the game to be playing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:44:38 No.31214696 Report

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>>31214671
Well that's what I meant. that in Lurantis' case, it can only use Contrary off its Special stat even though it's the weaker offensive stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:48:32 No.31214745 Report

Quoted By: >>31214764 >>31214790

>>31214692
Except Lurantis isn't a bug at all. It's a plant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:49:29 No.31214757 Report

Quoted By: >>31214840

>>31214635
Alright, what moves would you give it to help it out? No base stat changes or different abilities, just moves.

For starters I'd give her Hammer Arm.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:49:47 No.31214764 Report

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>>31214745
>Except Lurantis isn't a bug at all. It's a plant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:51:32 No.31214782 Report

Quoted By: >>31214925

>>31214635
>There's a chance that Lurantis might not even be good enough for PU
Where did it all go so wrong?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:52:56 No.31214790 Report

Quoted By: >>31214823 >>31214838 >>31214871 >>31215154 >>31215195 >>31215241 >>31215379 >>31215424

>>31214745
Look at this plant with its planty mandibles and its planty eyes and its sit plant legs with a plant exoskeleton covering plant organs and connecting its plant torso to its plant thorax and its plant head!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:55:14 No.31214823 Report

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>>31214790
That's the point. Lurantis is the opposite of that, it's a living plant trying to look like a Bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:56:31 No.31214838 Report

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>>31214790
Wait, does Lurantis even have a mouth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:56:33 No.31214840 Report

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>>31214757
Maybe something like a Grass/Fire/Fighting (any will do) version of First Impression. Maybe make it unique and call it Quick Draw.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:59:51 No.31214871 Report

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>>31214635
Its base speed makes zero sense. Why is it piss slow when has an agile body build? As much as I like Trick Room abusers I see little reason to use thing when it needs a free turn even have immediate nuking potential. Jesus Christ, GF fucked up badly.

>>31214764
>>31214790
Its pre-evo is literally "Faux mantis". Its an orchid cosplaying as a bug. A Sudowoodo repeat. It's eyes even work like plastic goggles than insect eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:01:27 No.31214888 Report

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>>31214635
>poor bulk
Rotom-W would disagree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:01:38 No.31214889 Report

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>>31214871
Lurantis isn't even that good in Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:03:26 No.31214904 Report

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The best I can see for Lurantis in maximizing it's stats that work, i.e it's attack, is an all-out attacker with Assault Vest hoping to grab Intimidate boosts thanks to contrary.

Even then, the best case scenario for it is RU. It'll likely be PU or NU though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:05:11 No.31214925 Report

Quoted By: >>31214943 >>31214976

>>31214782
It's not just Lunantis. I think GF finally realize just broken Spd is and made sure any new iteration will have much slower Pokemon to curb off the power creep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:06:27 No.31214943 Report

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>>31214925
But that just means the new mons will be shit while OP mons remain OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:08:28 No.31214976 Report

Quoted By: >>31215033

>>31214925
The only way to curb the power/speed creep would be to nerf threats that already exist. These things are fixed with subtraction, not addition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:12:48 No.31215033 Report

Quoted By: >>31215128

>>31214976
Well, they are, aren't they? Some Mega are currently being nerfed. I'm pretty sure the nerfs will be done in increments as to not cause competetive-fags to throw a hissy-fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:18:38 No.31215128 Report

Quoted By: >>31215146

>>31215033
>Some Mega are currently being nerfed
The only one I can think of that was a direct nerf was the Parental Bond nerf this generation. What else is there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:19:24 No.31215139 Report

Quoted By: >>31215505

Answer me a things /vp/.

How much better would Lurantis be if it had Tinted Lens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:20:02 No.31215146 Report

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>>31215128
Well some got indirect nerfs (with some being buffed) by how Mega Evolution functions now, such as Sableye or Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:20:42 No.31215154 Report

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>>31214790
>>31214764

It's literally in the name: Fomantis = Faux Mantis

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:23:30 No.31215195 Report

Quoted By: >>31215238

>>31214790
It's called a grasshopper for a reason.

>GRASShopper
>what is grass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:27:01 No.31215238 Report

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>>31215195

That's an Orchid Mantis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:27:03 No.31215241 Report

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>>31214790
It's game freak having a laugh, instead of making a orchid mantis, they made a mantis orchid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:27:24 No.31215249 Report

Quoted By: >>31215255

Hope it gets Super Power or Hammer Arm as a tutor in Prism, more so Hammer Arm because of the shit speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:28:14 No.31215255 Report

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>>31215249
it doesn't look like it can punch with those scythe hands

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:30:21 No.31215288 Report

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>probably outclassed by Servine

Shit, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:32:59 No.31215325 Report

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>>31215255
True but I can hope, if not Hammer Arm at least Super Power

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:33:34 No.31215331 Report

Quoted By: >>31215351

>>31214635
>X used Screech!
>Lurantis' Defense rose sharply!
>X used Shadow Ball!
>Lurantis' Sp. Def. rose!
My Contrary Lurantis really appreciates these stat drops turning into stat increases in game and it's kinda hilarious so there's that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:34:55 No.31215351 Report

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>>31215331
>X used Swagger

rip

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:36:31 No.31215379 Report

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>>31214790
Look at this rock with its rocky head and its rocky arms and its rock twigs extending from those rocky arms with their own little rocky leaves!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:38:49 No.31215424 Report

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>>31214790
It's a plant pretending to be a mantis, as opposed to that mantis pretending to be a plant
You retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2017 20:43:41 No.31215505 Report

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>>31215139
It would be less walled, but 45 base speed really kills it. Its no Cactune when you can SD and priority spam, any nuclear attacker with a SE move would force it out.

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