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Buffing your bro's thread

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:43:02 No.31221912 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31221966 >>31222046 >>31222141 >>31222671 >>31222880 >>31222991 >>31224806 >>31225331 >>31225879 >>31225992 >>31226148 >>31228609 >>31230879

I'll start

Access to recover, the ability technician.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:45:47 No.31221966 Report

Quoted By: >>31221979 >>31222930

>>31221912
>Technician
>Not Adaptibility
>Buff your bro!
He never really was your bro, was he OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:46:51 No.31221979 Report

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>>31221966
Are you the guy who was triggered by Marshadow's ability

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:50:17 No.31222046 Report

Quoted By: >>31222121 >>31222122

>>31221912
Boomburst, +50 buff to all stats, and it's Mega ability is now Pixelate + Speed Boost + Wonder Guard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:52:32 No.31222079 Report

Quoted By: >>31223195

>Speed buff
>Ice Shard
I know people mostly just bring up Shell Smash Kommo-o but I wonder what moves other pokemon will get once we have tutors

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:55:03 No.31222121 Report

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>>31222046
Woah there bud, wanna stop. You're going to far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:55:04 No.31222122 Report

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>>31222046
>Speed Boost + Wonder Guard + Pixalite
>Not just Adaptibility
Into the garbage it goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 03:56:13 No.31222141 Report

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>>31221912
Give Dusknoir access to Shadow Bone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:18:25 No.31222547 Report

Quoted By: >>31222561 >>31231593

I don't think there's much more Scizor could realistically want ? Maybe a better fighting move than Superpower since it kind of forces you to switch, but the high power is highly desirable. Gear Grind could see use due to the ridiculous sheer power it would have I guess

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 284-336 (67.6 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:19:09 No.31222561 Report

Quoted By: >>31222652

>>31222547

>Close Combat as egg move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:21:56 No.31222606 Report

Quoted By: >>31222642 >>31222693

Double HP
Give recover

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:23:47 No.31222642 Report

Quoted By: >>31222693

>>31222606
Fug

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:24:11 No.31222652 Report

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>>31222561
I mean it already gets Counter from Heracross, might as well give it CC while we're at it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:24:39 No.31222658 Report

Quoted By: >>31222678 >>31231573

a. +3 speed
b. Nasty Plot
c. Sheer Force HA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:25:36 No.31222671 Report

Quoted By: >>31224741

>>31221912
For Dusknoir, +20HP and Levitate, Recover would also be great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:26:01 No.31222678 Report

Quoted By: >>31222724

>>31222658
its funny to me how all it takes to change from mediocre speed to fucking outspeeds everything thats relevant is one fucking point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:26:20 No.31222687 Report

Quoted By: >>31222832

What could buff wobbuffet? It even has buff in its name!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:26:49 No.31222693 Report

Quoted By: >>31222741

>>31222606
>>31222642
Shuckle is already good.
C Rank in Ubers, above Lando-I and multiple Arceus forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:28:48 No.31222724 Report

Quoted By: >>31222875

>>31222678

Blame the fact that gamefreak has a flat "2 > 1 = 2 goes first"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:29:39 No.31222741 Report

Quoted By: >>31222874 >>31225261

>>31222693
That's ubers. Sticky web is more valuable there. I want it to become a actual wall then just having the niche of "reliable sticky web user". I'll be honest, it's my favorite pokemon and I just want to karenfag with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:36:54 No.31222832 Report

Quoted By: >>31222847

>>31222687
Wobbuffet's only problem is that it's only useful in 6v6 singles, and the only place that cares about 6v6 singles doesn't allow shadow tag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:38:10 No.31222847 Report

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>>31222832
Wobbufet is still good in Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:40:03 No.31222874 Report

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>>31222741
Sticky Web is useful in OU , too, I've seen a few really good teams that use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:40:11 No.31222875 Report

Quoted By: >>31224157

>>31222724
How would you do it then? Make who goes first based on luck, with the chance shifting based on the difference in speed? That's a terrible idea.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:40:29 No.31222880 Report

Quoted By: >>31222903 >>31222920 >>31222940

>>31221912
Access to Recover and Dragon Claw

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:42:39 No.31222903 Report

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>>31222880

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:44:10 No.31222920 Report

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>>31222880
can any legendary be more le cucked than zycuck XD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:45:00 No.31222930 Report

Quoted By: >>31222953

>>31221966
Technician-boosted Shadow Punch is stronger than Adaptability Shadow Punch, you mong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:46:02 No.31222940 Report

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>>31222880
HEAL ORDER WHEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:46:53 No.31222953 Report

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>>31222930
It's a meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:49:31 No.31222991 Report

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>>31221912
Iron Fist would be better imo, but Iron Fist itself needs a buff as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:50:02 No.31222998 Report

Quoted By: >>31223047 >>31223075 >>31223165 >>31231565

shields down now also doubles as sturdy
learns accelerock

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:50:20 No.31223004 Report

Quoted By: >>31230608

Needs 40 more speed and 10 more to both defenses, then we got a worthwhile physical fairy type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:52:41 No.31223047 Report

Quoted By: >>31226370

>>31222998
>Meteor Mash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:52:45 No.31223048 Report

Quoted By: >>31223176 >>31229315 >>31230047

>Volt Tackle
>Close Combat
>Ice Punch and Earthquake are fine
>+10 speed

Is it viable yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 04:54:35 No.31223075 Report

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>>31222998
Minior needs more defence in shield form.
How about 60/60/130/60/130/60? That way the BST of the two forms is the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:01:52 No.31223165 Report

Quoted By: >>31223185 >>31223235

>>31222998
give
him
dragon
ASCENT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:01:56 No.31223166 Report

Quoted By: >>31225352

>Dunsparce

Its moves and ability are already great. It only needs an adequate evolution to be good.

Dunsparces evo
Normal
Serene Grace

100>110
70>90
70>90
65>85
65>85
45>55
BST: 515

Its still slow but it has access to Glare, Roost, Coil, Calm Mind, Body Slam, Rock Slide and various other great special attacks which with Serene Gracre, makes it potentially annoying to play against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:02:55 No.31223176 Report

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>>31223048
motor drive + discharge in doubles
too strob

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:03:45 No.31223185 Report

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>>31223165
Give Dragonite and Gyarados Dragon Ascent they need flying STABS and it works thematically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:05:19 No.31223195 Report

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>>31222079
Fluffy or fur coat would be nice as well. Give it mach punch too. Would be somewhat usable after that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:06:55 No.31223220 Report

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Flygon gets Arena Trap

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:07:10 No.31223224 Report

Quoted By: >>31223234

+10 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:08:21 No.31223234 Report

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>>31223224
Just make him electric/Grass
Hes perfect scarf speed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 05:08:31 No.31223235 Report

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>>31223165
>Teach Minior Dragon Ascent
>Have Minior use the move
>It evolves into YV Canis Majoris
>The entire Solar System is consumed by a Minior millions of times larger than the sun within an instant
>Minior used Explosion!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 06:01:57 No.31223800 Report

Quoted By: >>31224477 >>31225298

+10 hp
+20 sp def

>A better mega

I still love this guy either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 06:39:38 No.31224157 Report

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>>31222875
(Not the same anon you asked, mind you)
I'd make it so you need to have at least 5% more speed than the opponent to move first (about 16 to 20 more speed at Lv. 100), and anything inside that range would be as you said, random but leaning towards the faster mon. So that means you would need about 8 to 10 more base stat total to completely outspeed the opponent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 07:20:02 No.31224477 Report

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>>31223800
That + coil and shore up

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 07:30:23 No.31224578 Report

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>Sp. Attk +20
>HP +10
learns Gunk Shot (level up), Hammer Arm (egg), Crunch (level up) and Play Rough (egg)

This way 'queen can tank hits a little better and be viable as either physical or special (though special probably still being better).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 07:33:51 No.31224611 Report

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Parting shot would be nice, thanks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 07:45:19 No.31224713 Report

Quoted By: >>31231397

Half steel type during mega

I'll be unstoppable on all fronts now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 07:47:49 No.31224741 Report

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>>31222671
This desu
Maybe reduce both defenses to 130 and put the 10 points into attack

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 07:51:20 No.31224774 Report

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>tfw we will never get to abuse Eviolite Impostor Chansey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 07:56:12 No.31224806 Report

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>>31221912
For starters remove dusknoir and give clops a mega

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 08:29:28 No.31225142 Report

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+20HP and +20 Sp Def

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 08:43:53 No.31225261 Report

Quoted By: >>31225313

I'll be honest, I have no idea how to fix mine. Defensive fire types were a mistake.

>>31222741
Totally agree on Shuckle, he's my second favorite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 08:48:26 No.31225298 Report

Quoted By:

>>31223800
Coil

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 08:49:28 No.31225313 Report

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>>31225261
Make it an ice type ;)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 08:51:34 No.31225331 Report

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>>31221912
Power Herb Geomancy so I can actually use Magician properly :/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 08:51:40 No.31225332 Report

Quoted By:

Drifblim
Boost his Defence and Sdef to at least 80s
Access to roost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 08:54:07 No.31225352 Report

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>>31223166
Fuck Dunsparce and fuck Serene Grace. Headbutt and King's rock with Serene Grace give you 80% chance to flinch. Plus Glare? Fuck you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 09:40:05 No.31225744 Report

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+ 15 SpD

mega with Grass/Rock and an iron barbs/rough skin ability that works against special attacks and stacks with spikey shield

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 09:52:49 No.31225835 Report

Quoted By: >>31225887 >>31225923

Give him Drain Punch and a hair more bulk
His stats are so ass, and so is his movepool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 09:56:49 No.31225866 Report

Quoted By: >>31226426

Close combat or Drill run
a different ability would be nice
>lets make it fast
>give it unique priority,Sucker punch and quick attack
>AND give it two speed based abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 09:58:05 No.31225879 Report

Quoted By:

>>31221912
Recover makes no sense
Give it a ghost draining move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 09:59:08 No.31225887 Report

Quoted By:

>>31225835
All it needs is better hipnosis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:01:42 No.31225923 Report

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>>31225835
i know people want a mega with No gaurd
a better version of Chucks old strategy with Poliwrath
and just give it dynamic punch via level up

Norp

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Norp Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:09:19 No.31225992 Report

Quoted By: >>31226017

>>31221912
A Psychic type hammer arm.

Norp

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Norp Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:11:26 No.31226017 Report

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>>31225992
Also for my true favorite... drought is all that's needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:23:44 No.31226148 Report

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>>31221912
I would recommend
+10 HP
Change Pressure to Cursed Body
Gain Analytic as a secondary ability
Keep Frisk
learn Revenge, Phantom Force and Drain Punch

Or if I wanted to be unrealistic
+ 20 HP
+ 10 Attack
Change Pressure to Magic Guard
Gain Prankster as a secondary ability
Change Frisk to Analytic
learn Moonlight, Drain Punch, Spectral Thief, Swords Dance

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:36:03 No.31226323 Report

Quoted By: >>31226349

Incineroar's special attack and speed need to be reduced and boosted respectively, hell it'd be great if they were swapped. In terms of moves, it definitely should get Fire Punch, Knock Off and Sucker Punch. Maybe even Close Combat or Drain Punch as well.

Why did they fuck up so many Pokemon this generation by poorly attempting to make them into mixed attackers? It's nearly as bad as the rampart speed problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:37:45 No.31226349 Report

Quoted By: >>31226409

>>31226323
just wait till HA and tutors are out for him then he will be fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:39:28 No.31226370 Report

Quoted By:

>>31223047
>minior punching
I mean, if wooper can do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:42:52 No.31226409 Report

Quoted By:

>>31226349
Incineroar will probably get some pretty sweet tutor moves, but its stats are still fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:44:43 No.31226426 Report

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>>31225866
>complains about priority on fast mon
>who is talonflame (gen 6)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:45:49 No.31226444 Report

Quoted By: >>31229141

>boost Atk/ SpDef/ Speed
>Give it a better ability
fixed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 10:47:08 No.31226456 Report

Quoted By: >>31230008 >>31231364

a Mega with +60 to Attack and +40 to Speed?
would keep Normalize because it's the cats schtick

went with physical for Normalize STAB Sucker Punch

special might be good for Normalized Blizzard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 15:04:02 No.31228582 Report

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A lot of gen 1 mons have absolutely awful stats because power creep
Give them better stats
And make the gen 2 one stage shitmons not shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 15:06:30 No.31228609 Report

Quoted By:

>>31221912
>Dusknoir
>NOIR
>not part Dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 15:29:13 No.31228839 Report

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Spinda +20 to each stat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 15:50:02 No.31229090 Report

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+20 Def
+20 Sp.Def
+20 Sp.Atk
Access to Earth Power or Psychic.

Defenses optional if it's going too far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 15:50:36 No.31229099 Report

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Samurott just needs Shell Smash, come the fuck on Game Freak

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 15:54:05 No.31229141 Report

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>>31226444
>give it a better ability
>weak to only one type (and freeze dry)with lightning rod

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 16:01:26 No.31229228 Report

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Moxie and Mach Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 16:06:25 No.31229315 Report

Quoted By:

>>31223048
Galvanize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 16:51:21 No.31229877 Report

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def 68 -> 78

Earth Power

Ability Queenly Majesty or Triage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 16:59:24 No.31230008 Report

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>>31226456
why on earth make it rely on the mega meme?
How bout it gets +20 in all stats and make normalize give you a 30% damage multiplier since making all moves normal type on any pokemon should be considered a penalty

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:01:56 No.31230047 Report

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>>31223048
>hur hur volt tackle is double edge for pikachu
>hur hur lets not give the physically suffering electric attackers a decent move despite the number of physically attacking mono electric types
>heres a base 90 power recoil move
seriously fuck pikachu
it ruined half an entire type by existing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:22:08 No.31230342 Report

Quoted By: >>31231896

Recover
make that base 60 SpDef 100
loser speed and Sp Atk to 20
that 70 points removed goes to HP making it 140
140/110/180/20/100/20 570 BST
plus access to stealth rock, and recover sounds pretty damn scary
removing the rock type would be icing on the cake

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:22:13 No.31230344 Report

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Oblivious as HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:40:28 No.31230608 Report

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>>31223004
Give it a recovery move aswell. A Bulk Up set would make it a physical Clefable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:43:25 No.31230648 Report

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Tail Glow. Xirkitree gets it, after all

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:49:38 No.31230728 Report

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Ice fang.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:56:38 No.31230832 Report

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If it had at least one of these changes, I would be happy

Def->80

Earthpower

Queenly Majesty or Triage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 17:59:55 No.31230865 Report

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nasty plot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:00:14 No.31230870 Report

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Gets a new form where it breaks down into a bunch of smaller mouths to mirror Zygarde. Changes type and stat spread into something not garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:00:42 No.31230879 Report

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>>31221912
>mfw my bro doesn't have a thread

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:03:03 No.31230904 Report

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Give Togekiss:
Moonblast
Hurricane
and
Earth Power

Also they need to add a special, fire-type version of quick attack.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:07:24 No.31230948 Report

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mega

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:14:31 No.31231016 Report

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Super Luck
and also his Mega Stone

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:16:29 No.31231042 Report

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It has the same BST as its other forms but keeps its stats distribution, so something like

50/65/92/107/92/114

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:16:54 No.31231045 Report

Quoted By: >>31231084 >>31231109

Buff my bro /vp/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:19:31 No.31231073 Report

Quoted By: >>31231172

+20 SpA
+Levitate
+Access to Focus Blast

Who am I kidding

>Ice Type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:20:21 No.31231084 Report

Quoted By:

>>31231045
Make it Toxapex 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:21:55 No.31231109 Report

Quoted By:

>>31231045
+20 HP and either Recover or Nasty Plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:26:32 No.31231172 Report

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>>31231073
Froslass got so close to being a very good Pokemon
>great special movepool (STAB Ice Beam, Thunder Bolt, Shadow Ball etc)
>nice support movepool (Spikes, T-Wave, Destiny Bond etc)
>high speed
Had it not been for her low stats (apart from speed) she would be one of the few ice types done right.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:29:49 No.31231226 Report

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>Fairy/Fighting
>Give it play rough
>make a fairy punching move
>ability is iron fist/adaptability
>the mega doesn't exist

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:31:06 No.31231247 Report

Quoted By: >>31231754

Def and Sp.Def+ 10
HP +20
Access to scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:37:42 No.31231364 Report

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>>31226456
Change Normalize so it makes moves used on Delcatty Normal type too

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:39:25 No.31231397 Report

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>>31224713
And make Mega Launcher effect "Hydro" moves while we're on it.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:44:17 No.31231479 Report

Quoted By: >>31231498

25 extra health and 25 extra special defense and 1 extra move slot

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:45:39 No.31231498 Report

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>>31231479

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:46:01 No.31231504 Report

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I think I maybe was too generous, but idc I love him.

74 > 84
108 >118
133 > 133
83 > 93
65 > 85
35 > 68 (enough to outspeed scarf Landorus after a Shell Smash or with swift swim in rain with a neutral nature)

Also now gets Icicle crash, Shore Up and Rapid spin.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:49:18 No.31231549 Report

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75 in everything instead of 60
a move that doubles in power on confused opponents
alternatively, give it more moves to benefit from contrary besides superpower

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:50:37 No.31231565 Report

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>>31222998
just make accelerock available to other mons, a year ago a priority rock type move was what every rockfag wanted and they went and gave it to a inferior Aerodactyl any other rock mon could use it better

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:50:54 No.31231572 Report

Quoted By: >>31231646

>>31231504
That's not a buff, that's nearly a mega evolution tier statup

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:51:00 No.31231573 Report

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>>31222658
it still dies to fairies

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:52:43 No.31231593 Report

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>>31222547
The best buff scizor could receive is knock off getting nerfed to 60bp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:55:24 No.31231646 Report

Quoted By: >>31231674

>>31231572
Yeah I know but, just giving him a speed buff or one of the moves I listed would improve it's viability massively. I just listed those stats because I want him to be OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:58:01 No.31231674 Report

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>>31231646
Unless they start giving stuff megas again, chances are GF would just give it +20 defense and call it a day

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 18:58:22 No.31231680 Report

Quoted By: >>31231720 >>31231882

>Remove his Mega
>Give U-turn
> +10 Speed
> +10 HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:01:15 No.31231720 Report

Quoted By: >>31231756

>>31231680
>>Remove his Mega

How would that help him competitively at all? Like even in the slightly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:03:31 No.31231754 Report

Quoted By: >>31231790

>>31231247
Lapras actually has a really high BST.

Its problem is that it is so evenly distributed that it does nothing great.

It needs points redistributed, not added.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:03:33 No.31231756 Report

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>>31231720
It wouldn't. I just hate it.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:06:43 No.31231790 Report

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>>31231754
Lapras
HP: 130
ATK: 85 -> 65
DEF: 80 -> 90
SPA: 85 -> 105
SPD: 95
SPE: 60 -> 50

Better? Slightly bulkier with a better special attack. It's slow already so it really won't miss the 10 speed points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:13:17 No.31231882 Report

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>>31231680
I don't know about competitive but in-game he could really use an early bug move. Being able to learn Smart Strike wouldn't hurt as a way to deal with Fairy types, and it would make sense since only pokemon with horns can learn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:13:54 No.31231896 Report

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>>31230342
>removing rock type
Weakness policy my nigga
rockpolish
hit em up with that +2 stone miss, EQ and heavy slam

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:14:07 No.31231901 Report

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>access to good STABs and TWO recovery options
>good defenses and special attack
>good ability in effect spore
>still shit because its grass
I really don't know, I guess its HP by 10-15 points. Might be a bit better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:26:19 No.31232078 Report

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Equal out its Attack stat and put the difference into Special Attack and give it a Psychic-type Attack so it can use Shattered Psyche.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2017 19:32:29 No.31232157 Report

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>Access to Recover
>Drizzle

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