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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2017 23:54:49 No.31254260 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31254429 >>31254703 >>31254830 >>31254861 >>31254923 >>31255193 >>31256670

>he has a defogger and a stealth rocker on the same team

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2017 23:55:45 No.31254282 Report

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>he has Defog on a hazard stacking stall team

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:03:09 No.31254429 Report

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>>31254260
This actually worked okay with Msableye last gen.

ABR's stall team that got Shadow Tag banned had this feature.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:07:41 No.31254515 Report

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>his spin blocker is a defogger

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:17:55 No.31254703 Report

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>>31254260
THE LEAKS ARE FAKE
immunit cat pls

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:18:37 No.31254717 Report

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>>31254515

What's wrong with this

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:20:46 No.31254759 Report

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>>31254515
>his spin blocker is a spinner
>his spin blocker lays hazards

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:24:31 No.31254830 Report

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>>31254260
I also have an Aromatherapy user on my Toxic Orb Gliscor team.

What you gonna do about it, bitch?

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:26:03 No.31254861 Report

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>>31254260
I don't even know what that means

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:30:11 No.31254923 Report

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>>31254260
It's really not always that bad an idea. Sometimes it's worth clearing your own rocks if the opponent is heavy stall and has a full field of hazards. Setting your own rocks back up usually isn't very difficult anyway.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:38:21 No.31255050 Report

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>>31254717
>switch in spin blocker to block the rapid spin so stones stay up
>Spin blocker used Defog!
>All hazards were cleared

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 00:45:48 No.31255193 Report

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>>31254260
I'd think that was a backup in case shit goes really bad. Might need to clear against a ghost.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 01:16:44 No.31255839 Report

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>>31254861
Defog removes ALL hazards from the field, including ones that you have set up on your opponent's side.

So to have a Stealth Rock / hazard setter and a Defogger on the same team contradict eachother, rather than having a Rapid Spinner which only removes hazards from your side.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 01:30:52 No.31256111 Report

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>>31255839
There's a lot more good defog users than there are spinners though. Nowadays your only good option is Excadrill.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 01:58:18 No.31256583 Report

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>>31256111
>foretress
>pheromosa
Donphan and Dhelmise are also decent.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 01:59:19 No.31256603 Report

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>>31256583

Forretress and Donphan are fucking shit, and Pheromosa is too frail to be spinning

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 01:59:27 No.31256611 Report

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>>31256583
>Donphan
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 02:00:29 No.31256624 Report

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Lando-T (the best Stealth Rock user) will get multiple opportunities to set up Stealth Rock throughout the battle, so it barely matters.

Defog is good for keeping hazards off the field until your opponent's hazard setter is dead.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 02:00:58 No.31256636 Report

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>>31256603
Pheremosa usually guarantees a switch-out when she comes in

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 02:03:08 No.31256670 Report

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>>31254260
Actually on teams that can keep momentum that is more recommendable.

Not every team wants to run Excadrill/Starmie so a pivot Defog user works well as a panick button.

People that think rocks at turn one are a must often forget how good some Defog users are over rapid spinners on some teams.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 02:04:11 No.31256691 Report

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>>31256603
>Pheromosa is too frail to be spinning
Frail spinners are fine if they're threatening enough to force switches. Starmie's been doing it literally forever

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2017 02:04:37 No.31256696 Report

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>I'll get those rocks off the field, AND protect you from status

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