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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:22:21 No.31305138 View View Reply Original Report

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Where exactly do we go from here?
Was Speed creep a mistake?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:24:06 No.31305175 Report

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>Not using pokemon with below 50 speed
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:24:55 No.31305188 Report

Quoted By: >>31306309 >>31307151 >>31309905

>deoxys non speed forms still have some of the highest speed in game
why was speed form made again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:25:13 No.31305190 Report

Quoted By: >>31305231 >>31305350 >>31305405 >>31306582

>>31305138
Why are bugs so fast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:27:00 No.31305220 Report

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>>31305138
Massive speed nerfs to a large chunk of the fast Pokemon's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:27:14 No.31305231 Report

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>>31305190
Ever try to kill one in real life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:27:38 No.31305238 Report

Quoted By: >>31305652

>>31305138
>my nigga electrode still hanging out in the top 5 surrounded my legendaries and megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:29:42 No.31305262 Report

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>>31305138
>electrode paying speed for stats
>suddenly lol no fuck that, here you go fast and hit hard right off the bat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:31:51 No.31305292 Report

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Things like Deoxys and Ninjask havce always been around. Pharamosa, while still terrible, is supposed to be an overpowered pokemon.

The speed creep more is around the 120s-30s range. Since we have things like Mega-Lopunny, Menectric and Greninja slowly creeping, that might be why Alola is so slow. Doesn't mean you can't still just try out a nice 100/110 sped stat, but whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:33:47 No.31305337 Report

Quoted By: >>31305354 >>31305408 >>31310541

>>31305138
Just introduce 2 new pokemon with auto trick room. Or one new pokemon with auto trick room and change the HA of 2 others into auto trick room.

Instant fix to your speed problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:34:37 No.31305350 Report

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>>31305190
>4 of the top 15 are bugs
>3 are Deoxys
really compels you to ponder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:34:57 No.31305354 Report

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>>31305337
>bronzong with auto trick room
please game freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:35:25 No.31305367 Report

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181 speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:37:03 No.31305401 Report

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>turn order becomes variable from turn to turn using speed stat and a formula similar to damage, with enough variance to allow speed tiers to cross over

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:37:07 No.31305405 Report

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>>31305190
Why indeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:37:11 No.31305408 Report

Quoted By: >>31306274

>>31305337
Since we got auto terrain abilities with the Tapus, it would be cool if Gen 8's minor legendary trio had auto Trick Room/Wonder Room/Magic Room abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:52:10 No.31305652 Report

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>>31305238

In spirit, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:54:26 No.31305697 Report

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>>31305138

Trick room is meant to counter speed freaks but you guys meme it to death

It is a good fucking strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:55:56 No.31305733 Report

Quoted By: >>31306085

Trick room

Paralysis

Gyro Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 21:57:22 No.31305758 Report

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>Pheromosa of all mons uses Scarf

It's ogre. Nowhere to go but down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 22:03:57 No.31305870 Report

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>>31305138
The problem is that they're making Pokémon that are both very fast and very strong instead of just one or the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 22:14:22 No.31306085 Report

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>>31305733
Trick Room will always be a meme until Game Freak creates an Ability for it. The only reason Weather and Terrain are good is because of Pelliper and the Tapu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 22:17:51 No.31306159 Report

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I am more upset deoxys got cucked from having the highest Attacking stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 22:24:41 No.31306274 Report

Quoted By: >>31309422

>>31305408
Trick Rooms is the only useful of those, unless the other two get some buffs (like terrains did) theyre better off giving just Trick Room to some shitmon like Chimecho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 22:26:56 No.31306309 Report

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>>31305188
So emerald could have a deoxys form

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 22:40:22 No.31306582 Report

Quoted By: >>31309507

>>31305138
>>31305190
Fucking unburden accelerator

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:05:13 No.31307042 Report

Quoted By: >>31307070

speed creep is only a mistake when its on a pokemon that also has beefy attacking stats

Because you need 3 stats to be defensive but only 2 to be offensive

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:06:41 No.31307070 Report

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>>31307042
>145/153/132
>holds choice specs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:10:06 No.31307151 Report

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>>31305188
a generally all round form that has 'ok' offense and 'ok' defense but only excels in Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:11:03 No.31307168 Report

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>>31305138
>Was Speed creep a mistake?
Yes

>Where exactly do we go from here?
We go back and fix it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:12:02 No.31307191 Report

Quoted By: >>31307221

>>31305405

So dissapoint, too bad because him and Golisopod were my faves design-wise and both have so sort of shitty catch, while Goli is still usable and has nice stats, this shit will either be in need of a scarf or focus sash despite it looks like a fast as fuck pokémon, BUG+ELECTRIC+WINGS, hell, this thing's gonna be fucking Sanic the Bug pokémon.

I still use it since it at least has a very fucking good sp. att. stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:13:39 No.31307217 Report

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>>31305138
>Where exactly do we go from here?
Abilities that set Rooms, Gravity, and Heal Block.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:13:46 No.31307221 Report

Quoted By: >>31307364 >>31309747

>>31307191
I will never understand Vikavolt's stats.
>Hey, let's make a pokemon with the two fastest types and give it terrible speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:16:13 No.31307261 Report

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>>31305405
DELET THIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:21:45 No.31307364 Report

Quoted By: >>31309753

>>31307221
its a rail gun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2017 23:22:20 No.31307369 Report

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>Joleteon and Crobat are now outsped by three pokemon in OU
Really makes one ponder

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:28:31 No.31309422 Report

Quoted By: >>31311135

>>31306274
Magic room should also prevent the use of mega evolution and Z-moves. Don't know what to do about wonder room though. Really, the introduction of an auto setter would be a massive buff in itself. Nobody used terrains in gen 6, and nobody used sun and rain in gen 3 and 4, outside of ubers at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:32:25 No.31309507 Report

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>>31306582
Unburden Accelgor with Water Shuriken

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:35:38 No.31309544 Report

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An ability that causes the user to take less damage the higher the enemies speed is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:39:18 No.31309605 Report

Quoted By: >>31309657 >>31309682 >>31309748

>>31305138
>Deoxys Spe
>Deoxys Atk
Besides not dying by being sneezed on, why would you ever use Speed Deoxys over Attack Deoxys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:42:11 No.31309657 Report

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>>31309605
You're playing Emerald?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:44:18 No.31309682 Report

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>>31309605
>besides this reason to use it, why would you use it?
why do people do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:49:08 No.31309747 Report

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>>31307221
>And we will also make it a really late game evo with a awesome design,to fool people into thinking it's good

Gamefreak says they were trying to fight speed creep with those abysmal stats,but i don't believe them after seeing super Jolteon and bug Deoxys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:49:09 No.31309748 Report

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>>31309605
Deoxys Spe gets Extremespeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:49:32 No.31309753 Report

Quoted By: >>31310333

>>31307364
it's a worse Galvantula with Levitate.

Why didn't they make it Physical? Megahorn / Wild Charge / Brave Bug / Iron Head or Earthquake would've been better than a worse Galvantula

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 01:57:19 No.31309905 Report

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>>31305188
For hazards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 02:23:17 No.31310333 Report

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>>31309753

>It's a "worse [insert pokemon]" meme because these two pokemon have the same types episode.

Just like how Zygarde is a worse Garchomp, right? Fuck off. Galavantula and Vikavolt play differently especially since Galvantula has access to Sticky Web.

>Why didn't they make it Physical?

Because there are already enough physical bugs in Alola and it's a literal railgun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 02:34:40 No.31310541 Report

Quoted By: >>31311163

>>31305337
It's not going to happen. There's a reason Trick Room is -6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 03:13:45 No.31311135 Report

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>>31309422
>nobody used rain in gen 4 outside of ubers
Dumb dumb dumb you are a dumb dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 03:15:14 No.31311163 Report

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>>31310541
Seriously, auto Trick Room is a retarded idea and would be incredibly broken.

Sub 1900 shitters need to keep their dumb ideas to themselves.

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