>>31314397You don't have an account? You can view it with an account. The general argument towards actually banning it was this.
"What Sableye does, in essence, is make the stall matchup a pre-decided battle. Without hazards and taunting, most creative methods of stallbreaking are disabled. This is why we see so many stall games decided turn 1, and the requirement for specific pokemon to be used to break stall. There is no strategizing and thought in stall breaking for the most part. You either have that one Crawdaunt/Heracross or you don't (these don't even singlehandedly beat stall)." -ABR
This is what I meant. The reason something is suspected isn't the reason something is actually decided to be banned. It made Stall essentially an entirely matchup-based fight in ORAS, which is why they voted to ban it.
Not going to say Magic Bounce wasn't a part of it, but to say that's the whole reason is just being dumb.
