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What was the point?

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 07:18:56 No.31313912 View View Reply Original Report

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We spend the entire anime watching them grow.
We watch them overcome every obstacle.
BRASTO BAAN!
The anime is garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 07:20:11 No.31313940 Report

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>>31313912
You can't always get what you want

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 07:21:47 No.31313956 Report

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>>31313912
>We spend the entire anime watching them grow.
>We watch them overcome every obstacle.
That was the point. We saw them grow. Doesn't mean they have to be THE strongest. Be happy they got the second place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 07:23:04 No.31313968 Report

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>>31313912
>The anime is garbage
It took you this long to figure that out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 07:25:42 No.31313987 Report

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>>31313956
Exactly, sometimes you just aren't good enough even if you work hard. It didn't make what Ash achieved any less just because he didn't make it /all/ the way to the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 07:30:27 No.31314033 Report

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>>31313987
Its not as if Alain is some scrub, either. Probably one of the strongest trainers we've seen in the anime. Hes the only non-champion to ever defeat an E4 member. The fight being that close is a sign of how strong Ash really was.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 08:07:24 No.31314348 Report

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>>31313912
>Ashfags

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 08:14:37 No.31314415 Report

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>>31313956
>>31313987
>>31314033
I personally didn't keep up with the anime and I heard all this hooplah about the loss.

At first I thought it was dumb but somebody posted a pic of Ash's progress in Leagues in the past years. Guy goes from being a part of the top 16 to top 2. Plus he manages to unlock some hidden ability to power up his Greninja.

Yet even with that shit he lost but you know what? At least it wasn't a cop out. It was an intense fight between two strong trainers at their fucking peak. At least it wasn't a case of Charizard being a dick and costing him the match or it wasn't that faggot with the Darkrai.

tl;dr
All about the journey, not the destination. Plus it teaches kids that hell if even if you do work hard at it, you might not reach the goal you want. Stil, that doesn't mean you fucking quit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 08:16:44 No.31314438 Report

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>>31313912
The anime is designed to sell the games.
It is not for compelling story-telling.
It is designed to sell the games.

When will you FUCKS get this into your thick skulls?

Why do you think GameFreak keeps removing and adding features?
Why do you think there is no consistent canon?
Because EVERYBODY STILL GETS THEIR MONEY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 08:19:54 No.31314473 Report

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>>31314415
>Lost because Charizard didn't listen
>Lost to a fucking Blaziken after beating a Blastoise
>Lost to a fucking Meowth
>Lost to a fucking Legendaryfag
>Lost to a fucking faggot with 5 Pokemon

This was the LEAST bullshit league Ash has had.
This was

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 09:33:31 No.31315025 Report

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>>31314415
>All about the journey, not the destination.

The anime fucks that up by not making the journey have lasting impact. We already know Ash is a decent person that cares about Pokemon, saving the world for the umptenth time to have a 'moral victory' adds nothing due to diminishing returns. If the leagues really don't matter, have Ash not participate or make it more character-driven like Ash/Paul.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 10:24:40 No.31315364 Report

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>>31314415
>somebody posted a pic of Ash's progress in Leagues in the past years. Guy goes from being a part of the top 16 to top 2.
Guess that'll be me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 10:59:02 No.31315565 Report

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>>31313912
Quitting the anime? That's good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:02:52 No.31317886 Report

Quoted By: >>31317938 >>31318156 >>31318588

It's okay to lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:09:10 No.31317938 Report

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>>31317886
That's great and all, but EVERY time a main character has attempted the final step to their goal, they fucking don't get it. Leagues, contests, whatever Serena's thing was; they've had ups and downs across their journeys, wins and losses, but it never equates to anything but hype. I get the feeling that some people could interpret it as being told to either not have dreams or to just give up on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:19:23 No.31318031 Report

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Ash lost to probably the only trainer we have seen (aside from Tobias) that could beat a champion.

Nothing to feel bad about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:22:42 No.31318067 Report

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There's dozens of kids entering the tournament. Only one can be the champion. Are you implying that unbeatable Mary-sues are great story-telling? Just top8ing a major tournament is a huge accomplishment in any competetive scene.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:27:20 No.31318108 Report

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BURASTO

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:27:30 No.31318111 Report

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>>31313956
But Alain was the obstacle. He never got over his goal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:27:44 No.31318115 Report

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>>31317938
Its called being realistic.
Not everyone's biggest dreams can or will come true.
I wanted Vikavolt and Golisopod to be usable because they both have such cool designs. But Vikavolt has the shittiest speed possible and Golisopod's ability actively works against it.
Its just like in real life. You can't win 100% of the time.
In the case of Ash and Pokemon fans in general, you can't win at all. Neither of us can catch a break. Fuck TPCi and GameFreak

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:30:59 No.31318156 Report

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>>31317886

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:36:48 No.31318226 Report

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>>31313912
Fuck Ash. This guy suffered the same fate as him 20 years ago. If no one cared back then, stop making a big deal out of it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 17:37:53 No.31318239 Report

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>>31313912
>loses to the same rival 3 times in a row
>never to be seen again

Who thought this was a good idea. Imagine if Ash never beat Paul and was like oh well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 18:03:23 No.31318523 Report

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>not a single win against Le Blasto Barn Man
>20 years and six leagues of defeat and choking
>animefags will defend this

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 18:09:05 No.31318588 Report

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>>31317886
>>31318156
That's a tough pill to swallow, but an important lesson to learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 18:17:11 No.31318680 Report

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>>31318226
>>31318115
>>31318588
My beef is that there's rarely a silver lining nowadays, or it's been done over and over again. At least Gary became a researcher when the league flopped on him. Ash had that Frontier offer, but it's irrelevant until he uses it. It's even more insulting when some characters manage to accomplish their goals off screen, like May/Dawn. Dealing with osing is important, but it has to mean something else, too. The anime has overplayed 'bigger fish in the sea' and 'Winning isn't everything' to death.

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