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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:02:14 No.31321563 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31321593 >>31321599 >>31321683 >>31321687 >>31321811 >>31321944

I can hear the Buthurt from Charizard Fags from here. Charizard Y now in BL too shitty for OU. It wont be long till Mega Venusaur is the only Kanto Starter Mega in OU. Charizard Fags BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:03:35 No.31321583 Report

Quoted By: >>31321628

Eh it's legitimately still the best sunsetter so....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:04:22 No.31321593 Report

Quoted By: >>31321645

>>31321563
Please as a Venusaurfag I'm telling you. STOP!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:05:05 No.31321599 Report

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>>31321563
ZardX is still an amazing sweeper

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:07:01 No.31321628 Report

Quoted By: >>31324111

>>31321583
Charizard Y can't even beat a bulbasaur, It belongs in LC

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-409766968

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:07:07 No.31321629 Report

Quoted By: >>31321714 >>31322169 >>31322197 >>31326220

Shitposting aside, what exactly caused Zard Y to drop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:08:04 No.31321645 Report

Quoted By: >>31321775

>>31321593
Thanks to the Tapus Venusaur got a huge buff as it fucks over 3/4ths of the tapus, and with a sticky web, kills the 4th one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:09:15 No.31321664 Report

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Not everything is set in stone. Things can fall and rise, it's still too early in the meta to tell if Charizard Y will be stuck in BL Hell.

It will still see use on Sun teams either way.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:10:57 No.31321683 Report

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>>31321563
The powercreep has gone too far.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:11:10 No.31321687 Report

Quoted By: >>31321761

>>31321563
>OP on suicide watch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:12:49 No.31321714 Report

Quoted By: >>31321780 >>31321873 >>31322169

>>31321629
I could thing of a few reasons.

1: 4x stealth rock weakness
2: Tapu Koko/Xurkitree
3: Gigalith, and Pelliper being good weather setters to counter Char Y
4: it's frailness physically is a real problem as this meta gave us alot of good new physical attackers. Goodra, Primarina, Gardevoir also suffer from this and are probably doomed to UU for this gen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:15:09 No.31321761 Report

Quoted By: >>31321799 >>31321841 >>31321923

>>31321687
>Mega Venusaur used Earthquake
Charizard X btfo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:15:54 No.31321775 Report

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>>31321645
Not disagreeing. Venusaur is great right now. Probably the best Mega right now after Metagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:16:11 No.31321780 Report

Quoted By: >>31321830

>>31321714
Goodra and Gardevoir are probably staying in RU. Gardevoir already suffered when Sylveon dropped to UU, Goodra just isn't that great overall.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:17:08 No.31321799 Report

Quoted By: >>31321865

>>31321761

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:18:11 No.31321811 Report

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>>31321563
it still baffles me that neither form got a speed buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:19:39 No.31321830 Report

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>>31321780
What goodra is missing is reliable recovery outside of rest. If it did, it would be like a dragon chansey, with ferocious attacking capability. Goodra does get Acid armor to help compensate for its poor defences while Gardevoir is stuck using defence curl, and willowisp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:20:39 No.31321841 Report

Quoted By: >>31321851

>>31321761
252+ Atk Venusaur-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 182-216 (61.2 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Charizard-Mega-X Dragon Claw vs. 248 HP / 96 Def Venusaur-Mega: 196-232 (53.9 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:21:40 No.31321851 Report

Quoted By: >>31321894

>>31321841
Yeah but I will just set up with curse if I expect your faggot ass charizard to come it. Then you can't 2 shot me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:22:42 No.31321865 Report

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>>31321799
Talk about a hard nerf there. I feel bad for Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:23:13 No.31321873 Report

Quoted By: >>31322169

>>31321714
More tapu Koko let's be honest. Xurkitree is going to drop most likely. And you are right about pelipper but Gigalith isn't weather setter that is being used. Tyranitar is more likely. Another problem is the addition of Mantine and Toxapex/ Mantine sponges it's special hits and can only really be beat by a Thunderpunch variant. Toxapex is also just big sponge for all his moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:25:04 No.31321894 Report

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>>31321851
+1 252+ Atk Tough Claws Charizard-Mega-X Flare Blitz vs. +1 248 HP / 96 Def Thick Fat Venusaur-Mega: 218-258 (60 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>inb4 "muh recoil"
Blitz into Claw kills at anything higher than minimum roll
+1 252+ Atk Venusaur-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 272-322 (91.5 - 108.4%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
nice fucking meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:27:14 No.31321923 Report

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>>31321761
>Charizard used Will-o-Wisp
>Charizard used Roost

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:29:14 No.31321944 Report

Quoted By: >>31322042 >>31322068

>>31321563
Why fight? Zard-Y and Venasaur have great synergy. Also, if you check the Viability rankings, Char-X is A, the only mega with a higher ranking Metagross. In the same vein, Char-Y is A-

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:37:14 No.31322042 Report

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>>31321944
I was thinking of teaming them up to use the Sea of Fire pledge combo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:38:50 No.31322068 Report

Quoted By: >>31322088 >>31322205

>>31321944
It's too bad that blastoise gets no recovery. The three could be great together if that happened. Also would make Mega Blastoise much better. I mean both Venusaur and Charizard get recovery and Blastoise needs it most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:40:10 No.31322088 Report

Quoted By: >>31322199

>>31322068
>It's too bad that blastoise gets no recovery. The three could be great together if that happened.
>Kamex could have great synergy with a Clear Skies-based duo
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:45:15 No.31322169 Report

Quoted By: >>31322226

>>31321629
>>31321714
>>31321873
Literally the only reason is dropped is because people are using new things. Y-zard is significantly better than a lot of stuff in OU and it only got better this gen because Tapu Fini is an amazing defogger and checks dragons for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:47:04 No.31322197 Report

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>>31321629
Low usage. It's an anti meta mon now. Most "muh non OU btfo" fags don't understand what makes a pokemon OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:47:11 No.31322199 Report

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>>31322088
>rapid spin for Char y
> dark pulse for psychics
>can still spread status with scald or toxic
>ice beam for lando T and dragons
only problem is losing power on water moves and it's more for support anyway.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:47:27 No.31322205 Report

Quoted By: >>31322258

>>31322068
No Idea. But we all know Venusaur completely outclasses Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:48:21 No.31322226 Report

Quoted By: >>31322246

>>31322169
Yeah and it will be used in OU. I mean it got quickbanned from UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:49:33 No.31322246 Report

Quoted By: >>31322298

>>31322226
Of course it's being used in OU. People think BL immediately means horrible limbo where it's not good anywhere for some goddamn reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:49:54 No.31322258 Report

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>>31322205
Yeah I'm not disgreeing. And I'm a venusaur fan. Just would like all three to be good.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:52:21 No.31322298 Report

Quoted By: >>31324067

>>31322246
This, I remember last gen when Diggersby was in BL, But I saw it in OU alot because it fucked over so much of the metagame. Aegislash, Tyranitar, Charizard X, Mega Gardevoir, Bisharp, Diancie and much more. You could also run Scarf and Agility Variants that really recked some teams.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:27:26 No.31323786 Report

Quoted By: >>31324040

Everybody else is here talking about mega venusaur and mega Zara's and I'm just chilling here with my favorite mega bro. Am I the only one here who likes this thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:46:42 No.31324040 Report

Quoted By: >>31324201

>>31323786
I mentioned Blastoise several times. I like all three just like I said he was screwed by having no recovery while being a really good tank. It is the same problem that bewear and Goodra have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:49:23 No.31324067 Report

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>>31322298
Bisharp needs to be BL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:52:44 No.31324111 Report

Quoted By: >>31324189

>>31321628
More like Serperior Master Race

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:58:42 No.31324189 Report

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>>31324111
Serp is the best of the grass starters without a mega. Venusaur is best overall with mega included

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:59:31 No.31324201 Report

Quoted By: >>31324229

>>31324040

Should have got a Steel typing as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 01:01:04 No.31324229 Report

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>>31324201
Yeah that would be nice but recovery is the main thing it needs. It would be the bulkiest spinner with recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 03:02:44 No.31326066 Report

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Charizard-Y is actually better in OU now than it was at the end of ORAS. It just has less usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 03:12:52 No.31326220 Report

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>>31321629

A-Marowak, Toxapex, Nihilego to name a few.

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