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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:23:21 No.31322734 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31322801 >>31322856 >>31323466 >>31323821 >>31323954 >>31324545 >>31326125

why is pokemon black and white so underrated? it had such good things and yet everybody shits on it and likes the sequels better

-intoduces N, perhaps the greatest antagonist in the pokemon frnachise to date
-awesome music, Vs N,Elite Four,Skyarrow Bridge etc
-original pokemon designs, the starters and their last evolutions

Seriously /vp/, tell me why you hate these games,

this is not bait btw, just a question i wanted to ask you all

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:24:20 No.31322750 Report

Quoted By: >>31322793

seizing first post

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:26:20 No.31322783 Report

Quoted By: >>31322842 >>31323752

>Inb4 the starters are shit along with most of the pokemon in Gen V

the only huge shitters in Gen V are most of the monkeys, Emboar, Garbodor and the Vaniluxe line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:26:49 No.31322793 Report

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>>31322750
>N gets reshiram
>the hero of truths

i can see this being true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:27:16 No.31322801 Report

Quoted By: >>31322817

>>31322734
>muh sprites!
>muh icecream!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:28:18 No.31322817 Report

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>>31322801
>implying i liked the Vaniluxe evolutions
haha

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:29:44 No.31322842 Report

Quoted By: >>31322878 >>31322921 >>31323774

>>31322783
>Emboar is bad

couldn't agree more
how do you expect me to beat the E4 when 3 of them are super effective aganist it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:30:52 No.31322856 Report

Quoted By: >>31322946

>>31322734
I feel like most of the hate simply comes from the designs. If people took the stick out their asses and tried it without complaining first they might get a feel for it. Maybe even like it, who knows.

If you hate the designs that much then hack your favorite Pokemon in and play like that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:32:12 No.31322875 Report

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Removal of any previous gens was great. It felt really refreshing to use different mons. Too bad that people were so off put by it it'll never happen again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:32:18 No.31322878 Report

Quoted By: >>31322925

>>31322842
>how do you expect me to beat the E4 when 3 of them are super effective aganist it
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:35:06 No.31322921 Report

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>>31322842
>how do you expect me to beat the E4 when 3 of them are super effective aganist it

>Emboar is Fire/Fighting

>E4 is
>Fighting
>Psychic
>Dark
>Ghost

One is equal to three?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:35:25 No.31322925 Report

Quoted By: >>31323929

>>31322878
i actually TRIED to use Tepig, he was great for every gym until i got to the E4

fuck you Shauntal
fuck you Caitlin
fuck you Marshal and your fucking stone edge/bounce

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:36:47 No.31322946 Report

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>>31322856
I don't think it's even the actual designs themselves are the problem with the people who hate it. It's more of a scapegoat if anything.

It's probably more that they were given just new mon to play with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:40:10 No.31322985 Report

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L=A

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:40:56 No.31322999 Report

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Loved the all fresh Pokédex. Hated linearity and lack of challenge. Overall better than average Pokémon for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2017 23:51:43 No.31323163 Report

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Super autists can't handle playing a game without transferring their charizard "bro" over immediately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:00:36 No.31323306 Report

Quoted By: >>31323400

BW1 has the worst level curve in that several of its new Pokemon can't be used during the main adventure without gross overleveling. Even DP at least you can trade eggs of the Pokemon they stupidly restricted to post-game to it at the start of the run and use the likes of Lickilicky or Magnezone reasonably, while Pokemon like Volcarona, Vanilluxe, Braviary, and Hydreigon are out of reach in level from the around Level 50 final fights of BW1. BW2 is better about it, only Hydreigon is really unreasonable, even then it's reasonable under Challenge Mode's curve.

Unova as a region is rather boring in BW1, it doesn't help that it focuses on the bland northwest Unova instead of the far more flavorful northeast Unova during its maingame. BW2 meanwhile does follow northeast Unova in its main story, adds flavor to old areas like Drifveil and Castelia, and adds tons of great new areas.

BW2 in general has much more content and variety which leads to greater longevity and potential for someone to find a reason to like the game.

Personally, I don't care for the story in either, but BW2's story feels less head-up-own-ass, the player's presence feels more natural, and Hugh's silly revenge quest is more amusing than the half-baked development they gave Cheren and Bianca in BW1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:06:44 No.31323400 Report

Quoted By: >>31323543

>>31323306
O-powers and audino exist as well as the free lucky egg. Leveling for the main game was never an issue outside of Hydreigon. Volcarona was post game.
There's optional areas you didn't explore in Unova 1 apparently which is where all of that flavor was in addition to the areas within the cities.

To sum things up, play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:10:33 No.31323466 Report

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>>31322734
Because B2W2 outclasses it in literally everything except story. And also,
>intoduces N, perhaps the greatest antagonist in the pokemon frnachise to date
The only reason you like N is probably because he's autistic like you, which is why you relate to him. Ghetsis is already a better antagonist and he's in the same game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:14:48 No.31323543 Report

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>>31323400
But I did on launch, and both yet again only two months ago. BW1 I did primarily because people told me my viewpoint on it was incorrect with and I wanted to give the games another fair shake just in case my memory was failing me. Everything I said is true.

Levelling isn't an issue, but if you want to use the final evolutions of some Pokemon during the main adventure, it can't be done unless you want to curbstomp everything.

Also while the stationary Volcarona is postgame, you can obtain a Larvesta egg in maingame. Y'know, if you go back and do that exploring you say I never did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:23:02 No.31323696 Report

Quoted By: >>31325343

- Starters are shit.
- Most new Pokemon suck.
- Lack of access to old Pokemon, bro or not aside, sucks. This was a misstep when RS came out (I'd guess a huge reason people prefer Emerald to RS is that RS didn't make it obvious you were gonna get your favorite Kanto- and Johto- monsters that RS left out back, whereas Emerald has FRLG before it and greater access in itself as well). Not sure why they doubled down on it in BWB2W2.
- The story is overrated.
- Does anyone ever feel compelled to revisit these games?

Will give credit for the amazing battle themes these games have. (Most of the overworld OST sucks but let's not dwell.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:25:44 No.31323752 Report

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>>31322783
Nope, just the monkeys. Emboar is great, best starter easy, Garbodor is ok, and ice cream is great!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:26:47 No.31323774 Report

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>>31322842
Easy, have a good fucking team!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:29:42 No.31323821 Report

Quoted By: >>31323855

>>31322734
N is probably the best character GF has put out but to call him the antagonist is a stretch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:32:10 No.31323855 Report

Quoted By: >>31323878 >>31323947

>>31323821
more of a understood semi antagonist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:33:13 No.31323878 Report

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>>31323855
*misunderstood

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:37:24 No.31323929 Report

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>>31322925
What are you even on about? I solo'd Black and Black 2 with Emboar. Dude thrashed the league in both games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:38:40 No.31323947 Report

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>>31323855
I guess he was your obstacle but he really didn't mean any harm. He just had to figure out shit for himself after only seeing one side to life. He started to like Pokémon and saw how they liked him, but he couldn't go back on being champion. He was designed like a protagonist a bit almost too with the hat like the protagonists hats

He had one of the coolest gimmicks for battle and somethinh called N run came up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:39:12 No.31323954 Report

Quoted By: >>31323992 >>31324573 >>31324681

>>31322734
>-intoduces N,
He will never be seen again (barring remakes).

Neither will Lillie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:43:09 No.31323992 Report

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>>31323954
dont remind me about Lillie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 00:47:09 No.31324046 Report

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All I can remember from the time BW came out was the endless threads of farting Bianca and people hating Oshawott's design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 01:21:35 No.31324545 Report

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>>31322734
If you want the honest reason why its because it's the last gen before we got new mechanics (megas, z moves, fairies).

Gameplay wise it's exactly the same as Gen2 just with moves having phys/spec split. People just got tired of the same gameplay for 10+ years even if it had the best story you don't play the story and it is a video game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 01:23:00 No.31324573 Report

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>>31323954
But he was already reintroduced in the next games and became a seasonal battler.

even GF acknowledged weather abuse. He is also the only trainer to use HA in a normal battle to my knowledge

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 01:29:56 No.31324681 Report

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>>31323954
>Neither will Lillie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 02:11:49 No.31325343 Report

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>>31323696
Absolute fucking garbage taste. Only thing you were right about was the starters being shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 03:07:13 No.31326125 Report

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>>31322734
Wasn't the AI better in Black/White?

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