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Tutor Moves

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 02:39:23 No.31325717 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31326686 >>31327013 >>31327325 >>31327541

ITT: We save Alola-mons with possible Tutor moves. I'll begin:

> Elemental punches
> Iron Head
> Drain Punch

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 02:43:41 No.31325792 Report

Quoted By: >>31325833

>iron head
>not iron tail

You goofed before you even began

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 02:45:41 No.31325833 Report

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>>31325792
Shit, I forgot GF made it a tutor move after Gen IV

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 02:51:37 No.31325916 Report

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>Low Kick
>Blaze Kick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 03:03:43 No.31326080 Report

Quoted By: >>31326943

Primarina gets calm mind and boom burst
sucker punch and knockoff for incineroar
close combat for kommo-o

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 03:47:15 No.31326686 Report

Quoted By: >>31326852

>>31325717
Move aside terrible puppy tutors belong to me.

-Heat wave
-Knock off
-Iron head
-Element punches
-Superpower
-Tailwind

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:01:15 No.31326852 Report

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>>31326686
>no play rough

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:06:58 No.31326943 Report

Quoted By: >>31327150

>>31326080
Incineroar could use Fire Punch and Drain Punch, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:12:28 No.31327013 Report

Quoted By: >>31327046 >>31327058

>>31325717
this thing is the same exact species as its quadruped cousin, so hoping for anything with "punch" in the name is a recipe for disappointment.

absolute best case scenario is that it gets the Scizor treatment and gets one or two cool moves added to it level up repertoire, but no single move is going to polish this turd of a shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:15:03 No.31327046 Report

Quoted By: >>31327114

>>31327013
They already have slightly divergent movesets, who's to say they can't split it further and give Day some status or boosting moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:15:45 No.31327058 Report

Quoted By: >>31327114 >>31327738

>>31327013
The thing clearly stands on 2 feet and has useable fists unlike day. GF isn't THAT stupid not to give it the punches and give day dog...uhh...something else

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:20:42 No.31327114 Report

Quoted By: >>31327212 >>31327246

>>31327058
Because it's the same species. Rotom-H can't be taught from a Move Tutor anything that isn't also learned by Rotom-M or Rotom-W. Neither can Deoxys, Shaymin, etc. Any movepool differences are because they have different level up learnsets.

And yes, GF is that stupid. GF does tons and tons of stupid shit, mostly in regards to cutting content because they can't be bothered.

>>31327046
I don't really see them giving any punches to nightdoggo in it's level up pool. At absolute best I could see Superpower, maybe close combat since Staraptor gets it, so they probably don't care anymore

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:21:49 No.31327133 Report

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Golisopod
>Ice Punch
>Avalanche
>Superpower
>Knock Off
>Gunk Shot
>Rapid Spin
>Rage Powder

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:22:30 No.31327150 Report

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>>31326943
Nah, Flare blitz is just too fucking good to ignore.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:26:07 No.31327212 Report

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>>31327114
Let me dream anon I know the odds are very bad. I know Iron tail at the lease is almost guaranteed to be a tutor. Oh what I would give for head smash and dynamic punch/cross chop

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:29:13 No.31327246 Report

Quoted By: >>31327270 >>31327302

>>31327114
>maybe close combat since Staraptor gets it, so they probably don't care anymore
Staraptor has had Close Combat since Close Combat debuted in Gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:31:03 No.31327270 Report

Quoted By: >>31327365

>>31327246
Close combat makes too much sense for night dog since GF constantly played up the fact it likes to fight up close and personal. Heck it even has no guard...and mudsdale of all things learns it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:33:30 No.31327302 Report

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>>31327246
Not "they don't care about close combat", more so "they don't care [about move distribution]"

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:33:45 No.31327306 Report

Quoted By: >>31327482

Can...can Kommo-o has shell smash? Please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:34:18 No.31327314 Report

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>crabominable
>gets ice shard/mach punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:35:13 No.31327325 Report

Quoted By: >>31327350

>>31325717
Headsmash at lv 1 for nightdogo.

Megahorn+low kick, Dig, Superower and Iron tail as tutor moves.

Heck it's dex boasts about its rock "horn" yet its movepool doesn't do shit with it.

Sundoge gets solar blade at lv1(Bloom Doom doge), Iron tail, superpower and Dig and roleplay/magic coat for the lulz.

There, I improved them vastly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:37:31 No.31327350 Report

Quoted By: >>31327409

>>31327325
Throw play rough into the mix and they'll be perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:38:28 No.31327365 Report

Quoted By: >>31327413

>>31327270
Close combat on its movepool would be sweet as well as headsmash, fighting without guard and using his rock "horn" are hyped left and right on its dex.

But do you realize the hell on earth you cause if you make close combat a tutor move? Any Pokémon with heroic connotation(see Arcanine gaining this move) will drop super power for CC in a blink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:41:57 No.31327409 Report

Quoted By: >>31327472

>>31327350
I'm not sure play rough gets anything for real, them gaining eq gives them way more shit to be honest, play rough without stab is kinda disappointing outside of nailing Keldeo/Conkeldurr on the switch, lo sundoge play rough actually fails to ohko Garchomp if I recall.

I mean canine Pokémon can actually get this move, but think of play rough Tsareena, it doesn't gain much from running that move, it's a bait move like aqua tail on Rhyperior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:42:07 No.31327413 Report

Quoted By: >>31327453

>>31327365
Not so much as a tutor than it is a natural thing for it to learn around level 75 or something and head smash at 80.

Low distributed moves need more distributed anyway. Most of the good pokemon learn all the good stuff while the rest is left with shitty coverage options. Aura Sphere for all so focus miss can die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:45:40 No.31327453 Report

Quoted By: >>31327472 >>31327562

>>31327413
Focus miss is actually godlike for lo users, it nets kosher and 2hkos where sure sphere would fail.

I'm not kidding, look at stuff failing to 2hko heatran with aura sphere when focus miss nets it clean. Even if Alakazam had aura sphere I would still use focus miss for the stuff it nails.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:47:38 No.31327472 Report

Quoted By: >>31327518

>>31327409
Hey coverage is coverage and having an option to deal with fighting types is always good for rock types right? Plus no guard shenanigans
>>31327453
Yeah I know. I like to play it safe with moves that are guaranteed to hit.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:48:32 No.31327482 Report

Quoted By: >>31327516

>>31327306
Drain Punch + Dragon Dance would be enough for me.

Shell Smash + Drain Punch would be wild. A Mixed attacking Drain Punch - Clanging Scales - Shell Smash - Poison Jab/Flamethrower/Flash Cannon set would be amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:50:49 No.31327516 Report

Quoted By: >>31327543

>>31327482
Wait, it doesn't learn Dragon Dance? Truly GF hates Kommo-O

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:50:57 No.31327518 Report

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>>31327472
Being guaranteed to hit doesn't work if you are outspeed and 2hkoed aura sphere Reuninclus for example, or you are still forced out by failing to 2hko your target.

Aura sphere no miss effect might sound cool in paper, but focus miss power is a big fat difference on stuff you actually beat 1-1 or on the switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:53:04 No.31327541 Report

Quoted By: >>31327569 >>31327612

>>31325717
You cannot save it. Sundog will forever be better.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:53:12 No.31327543 Report

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>>31327516
It learns Dragon Dance, but I'm saying if it got Drain Punch I'd be willing to settle with that combo.

I've got big hopes and wishes for the next game, new moves, unreleased mega evolutions, maybe new gender specific evolutions...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:53:40 No.31327551 Report

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give minior accelerock

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:54:00 No.31327562 Report

Quoted By: >>31327691

>>31327453
I'd pass on Focus Blast for Aura Sphere. Seriously, I can't count how many games I've lost from Icicle Crash misses, and Focus Blast is even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:54:25 No.31327569 Report

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>>31327541
No Guard Stone Edge and hopefully Iron Tail or Head Smash would surpass sundog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 04:59:05 No.31327612 Report

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>>31327541
Night is great in battle tree doubles. Noguard rock slides and stone edge are magic. Never tried day in the tree though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 05:06:28 No.31327691 Report

Quoted By: >>31327735

>>31327562
I can testify how much I love focus miss on stuff like Keldeo, it just fucks stuff that would have walled it without even blinking, same with zard y and Alakazam/Reuninclus.

Icicle crash is mandatory for me with Weavile CB and LO Mamoswine, screw accuracy, the damage rolls speak for themselves where ice punch weavile would fail to ohko/2hko Icicle crash nets it clean.

Dropping accuracy for a chance to muscle through a check is glorious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 05:09:26 No.31327735 Report

Quoted By: >>31327790

>>31327691
I can't take anymore. Seriously, I have the worst luck in Pokemon. If someone Iron Heads me, I will flinch to death, even if I'm not going against Jirachi. The other guy will Scald burn me 100% of the time, I will always miss Hurricane. I can't take it anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 05:09:36 No.31327738 Report

Quoted By: >>31327790

>>31327058
>The thing clearly stands on 2 feet and has useable fists unlike day.

>muffled Kyurem black sobs in the distance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2017 05:13:26 No.31327790 Report

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>>31327738
At least kyub got a z ice move to boast. Seriously that's more love than it has gotten in years.

>>31327735

I choose the chance to miss the move for the certainty of winning the match up vs a certain Pokémon, but yes I have missed key hurricanes and stone edge more than what I'd like to admit.

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