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>smogon bans landorus-incarnate and genesect, tapu lele and ass-greninja are next in line >this thing singlehandedly walls every special attacker In the game and has never been suspected >STILL no stealth Rock ban >people will still claim that smogon doesn't tailor the metagame to keep stall dominant mark my words, hoopa-u will be banned after ash greninja, and then the metagame will be reduced to switching between toxapex, mega sableye, chansey, dugtrio, skarmory, and ferrothorn in every 500 turn match
Anonymous
>>31330701 >STILL no stealth Rock ban What is this Gen 4?
Also Hoopa-U didn't get banned last gen, and got worse with the powecreep, he's not going anywhere
Anonymous
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>>31330705 >Hoopa-U didn't get banned last gen Except he did
Anonymous
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>STILL no stealth Rock ban >the metagame will be reduced to switching Anon, I know you were dropped repeatedly as a child, but surely even you can see the problem here?
Anonymous
sef 0361-6807-0681
>>31330701 >this thing singlehandedly walls every special attacker In the game Modest mega-zam @psystrike
mega-zam @encore
leech seed Celesteela
CM clef
Taunt tran
Hoopa-U
CM Latios
Manaphy
Mega sableye
Tail glow Xurkitree
This isn't gen 3 anymore, Skarm-Bliss doesn't win the game turn 0 anymore
Anonymous
>>31330756 >Alakazam having Psystrike >Alakazam encoring Seismic Toss and dying 2 turns later >counting Celesteela as a special attacker >counting Hoopa-U as a special attacker >counting M-Sableye as a special attacker Dude, what?
Also
>Clefable beating Chansey Only with EV in SpA, Life Orb, Calm Mind and Magic Guard afaik. Realistically speaking, almost no one uses such set.
sef 0361-6807-0681
>>31330889 >It uses special attacks and has a somewhat strong offensive presence but it is not special attacker because it doesn't go modest 252 SpA with a specs >Clefable beating Chansey Crit chances favor clef, since Toss never crits
Also, clef wins the PP stall war, especially the sets with SR
Anonymous
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>>31330934 Celesteela and Hoopa-U are both capable mixed attackers, dude.
M-Sableye is not even an attacker, it's a utility mon (that usually uses physical attacks if anything).
If PP stall war starts, there is no winner. Both sides should acknowledge they are retarded. But I digress. Anonymous
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>>31330701 Stealth Rock makes Stall easier to break.