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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:05:39 No.31349208 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31349217 >>31349530 >>31350982 >>31353666 >>31353760

Say what you want about Mega Evolution, but it was much cooler than Z Moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:06:28 No.31349217 Report

Quoted By: >>31349276

>>31349208
>Say what you want about Mega Evolution
They were great. Only contrarian faggots dislike them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:07:47 No.31349230 Report

Quoted By: >>31349257 >>31349267 >>31349352 >>31349481 >>31349556 >>31349671 >>31350629

I don't have a problem with Megas, just with Charizard having two, Gen II, IV, and V having none, and Pokemon that aren't three stage evolutions getting them, making it so they have no chance of getting a real evo and giving that a mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:10:03 No.31349257 Report

Quoted By: >>31349267 >>31350922

>>31349230
>gen II having none

>Ampharos
>Scizor
>Heracross
>Tyranitar

wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:11:04 No.31349267 Report

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>>31349230
>Charizard having two, Gen II, IV, and V having none, and Pokemon that aren't three stage evolutions getting them, making it so they have no chance of getting a real evo and giving that a mega
Not only am I completely okay with that, I actually liked a few of those things.

>>31349257
He meant the starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:12:02 No.31349276 Report

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>>31349217
/Thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:14:14 No.31349294 Report

Quoted By: >>31349530

I'm fine with megas, but it was a mistake to hand them out to pseudos and legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:17:37 No.31349332 Report

Quoted By: >>31351289

Mega Evolutions were broken sometimes and useless sometimes, but who gives a fuck? Each one was unique and fun to play around with if nothing else. Not like this game has ever been balanced.

Z-Moves could've been interesting if they weren't almost all generic damage nukes and more than 3 or 4 of the status ones did anything interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:18:54 No.31349351 Report

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The first batch of Megas was basically just fan service. Already powerful Pokemon getting +100 BST? What could go wrong?
At least ORAS gave some weaker Pokemon Megas. But also Mega Fug

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:18:55 No.31349352 Report

Quoted By: >>31350922

>>31349230
I think Gen V only has Audino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:22:32 No.31349392 Report

Quoted By: >>31349407 >>31349430 >>31349658

I really don't get the complains about Pseudos and Legends getting Megas. What's the problem? Mega Evolution is a simple and great concept, and every just seems to wish only shitmons were allowed to make use of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:23:43 No.31349407 Report

Quoted By: >>31351057

>>31349392
I have 0 problems with Legends getting Megas and such personally. They're there to please the kids with intentional gamebreakers, I don't see the big deal.

Some of you seem to forget who the target audience is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:25:10 No.31349419 Report

Quoted By: >>31349448

I don't really like the way megas are right now, if they aren't going to make any new ones then they should have overhauled the balance of the current ones. It's good that they nerfed Kangaskhan and indirectly nerfed Gengar/Mence/Gardevoir, but they didn't buff any of the shit ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:26:47 No.31349430 Report

Quoted By: >>31349446 >>31349453 >>31349477

>>31349392
>I really don't get the complains about Pseudos and Legends getting Megas
Why is fucking Garchomp of all things more deserving for a mega than Flygon? Who would even defend this shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:28:30 No.31349446 Report

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>>31349430
Garchomp is light ages ahead of Flygon in popularity, it's obvious they would give it a Mega instead. It's not that hard to understand that GF weren't really thinking about game balance in that decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:28:38 No.31349448 Report

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>>31349419
I think I'm more annoyed that they left out like half the Megas out of SM. I really hope they don't do that again, they don't leave out alternate formes for any of the legends so there's no reason to be doing it with Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:29:08 No.31349453 Report

Quoted By: >>31349680

>>31349430
Because more people give shits about Garchomp than Flygon? I'm not saying they should ignore shitmons and only focus on the popular ones, but ignoring popular ones is just as bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:31:19 No.31349477 Report

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>>31349430
They actually had a few visual designs for mega Flygon, but none of them really panned out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:31:29 No.31349481 Report

Quoted By: >>31350922

>>31349230
>Gen 2
Ampharos
Houndoom
Tyranitar
Heracross
Steelix
Scizor

>Gen 4
Lopunny
Lucario
Garchomp
Gallade
Abomasnow

>Gen 5
Audino

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:32:27 No.31349494 Report

Quoted By: >>31349640

>>31349448
They'll be available eventually though, maybe distributed gradually throughout the year to keep people playing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:36:23 No.31349530 Report

Quoted By: >>31349575 >>31349587 >>31349656

>>31349208
Yeah, it's cool to have pokemon get a more hardcore design, but at the same time is pretty annoying because only some gets to have megas and such you feel the NEED to have one on your team.

also this >>31349294
Also why give so many to popular pokemon that are gonna be used regarless of whether they are good or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:39:04 No.31349556 Report

Quoted By: >>31350922

>>31349230
You look so dumb right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:40:32 No.31349575 Report

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>>31349530
Because they're popular...? For knowing so much about Pokémon some of you seem to be missing a couple of neurones or basic knowledge in marketing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:40:51 No.31349578 Report

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Mega evolution AND z-moves are the most retarded feature to put in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:42:00 No.31349587 Report

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>>31349530
>Hey, let's make a cool new thing and give it to only Pokemon no one really gives a shit about
or
>let's make the most amount of people happy by giving Megas to the Pokemon most people love, while also giving some to bad Pokemon to make the few minority happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:47:25 No.31349640 Report

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>>31349494
They're in the game data for obvious reasons, but that's not really any guarantee we'll be getting them in SM instead of whatever game they release next.

That would be an awful pattern though, locking a bunch of Megas until the second release of each Gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:49:08 No.31349656 Report

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>>31349530
Why give them to unpopular Pokemon that aren't be gonna used regardless of whether they're good or not?
You do know that your shitmons will NEVER be on the level of pseudos/legends even if those DIDN'T get a mega, right? Nothing changes.

This "only muh shitmons should get megas" argument was always fucking retarded and will always be. I don't even see how it exists considering GF clearly went for a 50/50 when distributing megas, considering that quite a few of the "popular" mons that got them were shitmons before, like Charizard, Blastoise, Lopunny, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:49:23 No.31349658 Report

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>>31349392
This desu

>complaining about Pseudos and Legendaries getting Megas
>only Megamence and Megagross were real improvements to their originals
>most Legendaries mattering competitively outside of meme formats like Ubers and VGC16
>Mega Evolution actually made Diancie viable, while Mega Latios is utter shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:50:14 No.31349671 Report

Quoted By: >>31349880 >>31350922

>>31349230
You missed the only gen (though gen V comes close) to actually not have any: Gen VII

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:51:01 No.31349680 Report

Quoted By: >>31349732

>>31349453
Garchomp is already an ridiculously good pokemon without its mega(naturally outspeeds many offensive pokemon, only Ice moves can OHKO it reliably, more physically frail pokemon are bellow it's speed tier than above). Gamefreak created a monster and are too fucking retarded to realize this and design pokemon that can effortlessly deal with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:55:25 No.31349730 Report

Quoted By: >>31349742 >>31349881

I like the concept of Mega Evolutions, but I think they've done so poorly. Some Mega Evolutions, like Mega Lucario, Kangaskhan and Salamence (and ultimately fug), simply outdo other Megas so hard they can become "irrelevant" as long as those big ones are around, also because GameFreak actually made irrelevant Megas like Audino. With that being said, I really like how they gave glory to otherwise irrelevant Pokémons, perhaps only famous due to their design, like Mawile, Beedrill and Diancie, and transformed those into actual powerhouses, forces to be reckoned with and shitmons no more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:55:35 No.31349732 Report

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>>31349680
Again, so what? GF isn't making decision based on how every Pokemon does competitively. The first and foremost priority is to make it fun for people. More people are going to be happy to see Garchomp Mega Evolving compared to, say, Haxorus. Even then, they tried to balance Mega-Chomp, which worked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 15:56:36 No.31349742 Report

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>>31349730
Forgot to mention that of course this all means shit when their Mega Stones are unreleased. That coupled with Floette-Eternal actually makes you unable to catch'em all. Bravo, Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 16:09:03 No.31349880 Report

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>>31349671
>Only gen VI mega is for an event-only legendary
Comes closer than gen V desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 16:09:05 No.31349881 Report

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>>31349730
I mean, if you're talking about competitive Pokemon, some Pokemon will always be irrelevant compared to others. With over 800 of them, it's an inevitability, Megas or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 16:49:15 No.31350293 Report

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I politely disagree. All the megas looked over-designed, and the power boosts they got totally fucked the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:15:12 No.31350629 Report

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>>31349230
Gen 6 has no megas, ironically. (Except Diancie, but that's ORAS)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:39:23 No.31350922 Report

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>>31349257
>>31349352
>>31349481
>>31349556
>>31349671
He meant starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:43:25 No.31350982 Report

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>>31349208
Agreed. Most Z-Moves are literally just versions of moves that do more damage. Mega Evolutions can I have different stats, abilities, and even have their types changed, and they last throughout the battle or until the Pokemon faints. Z-Moves are just their to look cool.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:44:20 No.31350997 Report

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I hate Megas more because they gave them to pokemon who in no way in hell needed them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:48:03 No.31351057 Report

Quoted By: >>31353746

>>31349407
The target audience is everyone. Not just children. Masuda already admitted to this.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 18:06:57 No.31351289 Report

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>>31349332
>each mega was unique

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 21:09:21 No.31353666 Report

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>>31349208
>better than sentai poses
Off yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 21:14:47 No.31353746 Report

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>>31351057
>trusting Masuda

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2017 21:15:31 No.31353760 Report

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>>31349208
The problem with Mega Evolutions was more of the fact they were given to Pokemon that didn't need them. It was a little better with ORAS but GF decided to pull the plug on them immediately after. Other than that it was one of the better ideas to come from gen 6

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