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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:21:05 No.31423581 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31423752 >>31423798 >>31424275

>He only has two Pokemon...

Ohmoriiiii!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:26:50 No.31423645 Report

Quoted By: >>31423724

>no trainer has more than 3 pokemon
>most have 2 at most
>majority have 1 pokemon

what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:32:27 No.31423724 Report

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>>31423645
Ingame excuse is that having more than 3 Pokemon is actually really difficult for the average trainer to handle, which just helps make you feel like more of a special snowflake on par with the Elites before you even do anything notable.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:34:28 No.31423752 Report

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>>31423581
should have been 3 - 4 - 5 pokemon for the 3 fights
and 3 - 4 - 5 - 5 for kahunas

also the final main game battle against gladion and hau...
>still not even 6 pokemon at this point...right before the league

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:37:26 No.31423798 Report

Quoted By: >>31423828 >>31423829 >>31423871

>>31423581
I didn't play that far (too boring lol), does he ever get a Buzzwole or Pheromosa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:40:17 No.31423828 Report

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>Game makes it easy as fuck to gain money by fishing alone
>Most trainers have so few Pokemon that Totem battles and SOS battles are generally more challenging than Trainer battles.

>>31423798
I don't know. I just swept his Ariados and Golisopod with Magnemite's Charge Beam. But I'm pretty sure he doesn't get any of those since if he did I think I would've seen somebody mention it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:40:19 No.31423829 Report

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>>31423798
Of course not, then the game would be actually difficult.

Only Nihilego even shows up before postgame. And it's uncatchable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:43:54 No.31423871 Report

Quoted By: >>31423912 >>31425614

>>31423798
Kek. Just checked on Bulbapedia. In the second battle his Golisopod only has three moves and his Ariados has four. In the third battle they both have three moves along with a Masquerain with two moves and a Pinsir with three moves.

What exactly goes through Game Freak's mind when they do this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 19:46:17 No.31423912 Report

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>>31423871
Less move give him better chances of using the moves they want him to. Basically, a simple way around designing better AI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 20:18:49 No.31424275 Report

Quoted By: >>31424773 >>31424863

>>31423581
it's almost like he's overleveled and also has fully evolved mons as opposed to your NFEs.....

its almost as if the amount of pokemon a trainer has is not directly representational of how difficult a trainer is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 20:23:14 No.31424332 Report

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Doesn't he have four pokémon in the third fight with him (not too long after the second one)? Which is immediately followed by a battle against five pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 20:56:29 No.31424773 Report

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>>31424275
I have an Umbreon, Magnemite, Gyarados, Primarina, Lilligant, and another Pokemon I can't remember.

They are all around the same level, probably a level or two apart though. None of my Pokemon are NFEs, Guzma like the majority of trainers in Sun/Moon just have shitty options. Gyarados alone fucks his shit up. With all the money this game throws at you for buying potions and whatnot you'd think most trainers would have more than a few Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 20:57:32 No.31424784 Report

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>>31424773
>None of my Pokemon are NFEs

Well besides Magnemite but that's holding Eviolite and has one of the best defensive typings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 21:02:52 No.31424863 Report

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>>31424275
it's almost as if he has two bug shitmons that die in 1/2 hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 21:20:16 No.31425106 Report

Quoted By: >>31425347 >>31425569 >>31425721

>final battle with Gladion just before the league
>only 4 Pokémon, 2/4 only have 3 moves and Crobat only has two moves

>final battle with Hau just before the league
>only 4 Pokémon, Komala has no STAB, starter only has 3 moves and has a Z-Crystal for Grass/Fire/Water rather than the starter crystal

What did they mean by this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 21:40:28 No.31425347 Report

Quoted By: >>31425519 >>31425569 >>31425685

>>31425106
Was stuff like this common in past games?

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 21:54:26 No.31425519 Report

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>>31425347
>Was stuff like this common in past games?

Champion blue in gen 1 had leer and tail whip on his rhydon. Thats probably the only example I can think of, but the whole only 3-4 pokemon only with incomplete moves bullshit started around gen 5 and got dialed up to 11 in gen 6 because they wanted the casual audience that has a million different free mobile games to play if they get beat by a difficult in game trainer/gym/e4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 21:58:15 No.31425569 Report

Quoted By: >>31425794 >>31425942

>>31425106
>>31425347
>>31425519
The real reason Pokemon have 2-3 Moves is because GameFreak can't make good AI, so instead of giving them Status Moves that they'll spam infinitely until they faint, they just give them STAB Attacking Moves and maybe some coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:02:32 No.31425614 Report

Quoted By: >>31425641

>>31423871
Remember dragonite from gen one using that non damaging psychic move if you had a pokemon weak to psychic making dragonite easy to kill. They want to prevent things like this anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:03:30 No.31425627 Report

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That Golisopod's First Impression killed a good 2-3 of my pokemon in the final battle. I like how they made bugs work by making the majority of Alolamon dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:04:34 No.31425641 Report

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>>31425614
>They don't want to spend time making a good/nonretard AI

fix'd

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:08:08 No.31425685 Report

Quoted By: >>31425733

>>31425347
daily reminder

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:10:15 No.31425721 Report

Quoted By: >>31425780

>>31425106
Compare this to the final battle with Barry just before the league in Platinum
>6 Pokémon
>all have 4 moves

Casualisation in these games recently is bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:11:23 No.31425733 Report

Quoted By: >>31425752 >>31425780

>>31425685
what's the rest of his team?
does roserade get switched for another mon if you choose a different starter?

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:12:58 No.31425752 Report

Quoted By: >>31425826

>>31425733
Two Pokémon with only 3 moves, of course! This is gen6!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:14:08 No.31425780 Report

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>>31425721
Barry was a retard if you chose the monkey, since his Ponyta basically opened his team's anus for you to probe.

>>31425733
His team was Talonflame, Crawdaunt, Roserade. The Roserade only knew 1 move, the talonflame and crawdaunt only had 3, 1 of the three being swords dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:15:10 No.31425794 Report

Quoted By: >>31425817

>>31425569
Cyrus would say otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:16:41 No.31425817 Report

Quoted By: >>31426127

>>31425794
First battle was retarded, second was decent, but still retarded.
The crobat used confusion ray 3 times in a row thinking I would switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:17:25 No.31425826 Report

Quoted By: >>31425846 >>31425847

>>31425752
I haven't played gen 6 yet (though i plan on doing so), how often do you meet your ingame rivals? I know Serena offers a fair amount of challenge (as far as gen 6 goes) but how about the others? Do they suddenly disappear midgame and only show up in endgame facilities or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:17:58 No.31425834 Report

Quoted By: >>31425881

reminder that when asked to make the game harder they laughed and said "but then it would be too hard" They don't even realize how easy it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:18:48 No.31425846 Report

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>>31425826
You see them pretty often, but other than Serena you don't battle them very often.

also
>endgame facilities
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:18:53 No.31425847 Report

Quoted By: >>31425877

>>31425826
I think you fight all of them except Serena twice. The non Serena rivals are gutter trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:21:20 No.31425875 Report

Quoted By: >>31425915 >>31425942

>check the elite four's movesets
>most of their pokemon don't even have four moves
That's acceptable early game, but the elite four? What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:21:27 No.31425877 Report

Quoted By: >>31425905

>>31425847
How about characterization, is it like in gen 5 where you can fucking predict when they will show up and their dialogue is not even worth reading?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:21:48 No.31425881 Report

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>>31425834

>Game Freak sucks at their own game.

This doesn't even surprise me. It's either that or they have mediocre playtesters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:24:14 No.31425905 Report

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>>31425877
Shauna's characterized okay. If you're a boy, it's implied she has a crush on you, and this whole pictures thing is her getting close to you. If you're a girl, there's 0 romantic subtext and she just likes scrapbooking.
Serena's the girl next door, she's okay, but she kinda admits to never being as good as you by the time you challenge the league.
The other two, are extremely forgettable to the point where I really don't know what their plot contribution was

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:24:49 No.31425915 Report

Quoted By: >>31425942

>>31425875
>most of hala's pokemon have just 2 moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:27:40 No.31425942 Report

Quoted By: >>31425965

>>31425875
>>31425915
See
>>31425569

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:30:00 No.31425965 Report

Quoted By: >>31425977

>>31425942
Well then, o great and wise sage, why exactly do 3/5 of the Pokémon only have two moves, even though they all have 4 moves (with the same AI) in the rematch.

Stop being an apologist and talking out of your ass when there is genuinely no reason for them to have two moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:30:58 No.31425977 Report

Quoted By: >>31426029

>>31425965
Because the kiddies need to beat the game once, anon.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:34:44 No.31426029 Report

Quoted By: >>31426147

>>31425977
Ah yes, trainers with 6 Pokemon (with 4 moves) are impossible for kids to beat, right? There's no way they'd have been able to beat an extremely easy game which tells you which moves to make, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:41:08 No.31426127 Report

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>>31425817
I'm pretty sure the game just picks AI moves at random, no switching strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:42:14 No.31426147 Report

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>>31426029
anon, I was 12 when DP came out. Barry literally used Sunny Day and I flare blitzed his team to death

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