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>>31472126
No pokemon resists its STAB combination, and has access to boosted priority and utility moves capable of breaking through sub and snatching boosts while still dealing damage. It has a ridiculously high speed tier and deals massive damage.

However, it is weak to all tapus, and the UBs have tools to get around it, not to mention it has sub-par bulk.

hard to say, probably will be OU but might just fall to UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 13:13:56 No.31472171 Report

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>>31472141
PALM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 13:20:04 No.31472187 Report

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Solid OU.

anonymous

anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 13:23:42 No.31472200 Report

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>>31472126
Marshadow is cool! COOL!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 13:26:48 No.31472210 Report

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>>31472159
>No pokemon resists its STAB combination
Guess again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 13:36:09 No.31472253 Report

Quoted By: >>31477760

>>31472159
Tapus I get, but UBs?

-It resists/is immune to both of Pheromosa and Buzzwole STAB, who don't even have any super effective coverage move against it.
-Kartana gets KO'd by either Close combat or any technician boosted HP
-Celesteela does have Air Slash I guess bo do people even run it?
-Guzlord is a joke
-Xurkitree has Dazzling Gleam I guess

Besides UBs rely on their Beast Boosts, and seeing how Marshadow outspeeds them all except Pheromosa they'd probably switch out in order to not give Marshadow a free boost via Spectral Thief. If anything this thing is a huge UB deterrent

>>31472141
I don't even know how to begin with this one honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 13:36:42 No.31472256 Report

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>>31472159
>might just fall to UU.
Wut. This thing would destroy UU. It would invalidate every fighting type in the tier with its unresisted STAB coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 14:04:06 No.31472372 Report

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>>31472159
>hard to say, probably will be OU but might just fall to UU.

it's going to straight ubers. the fact you think it has a possible chance of falling to uu makes you a massive retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:44:43 No.31473381 Report

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>>31472159
>might just fall to UU.
Nigga, Breloom is raping UU right now. This thing is Ubers shitmon material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 18:09:00 No.31474296 Report

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>>31472126
This thing is gonna be ubers.

>base 125 speed and attack
>tons of coverage options
>fantastic movepool in general
>great offensive typing
>decent bulk

Only thing holding it back is a mediocre ability which doesn't fit it's best attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 19:54:33 No.31475426 Report

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Definitely getting checked at least. It has a damn good defensive typing along with a damn good offensive typing. Anything that can beat it gets out sped and murdered because it has All Elemental punches. Nothing resists it's stab, either. LO Jolly can ohko tapu lele with just Shadow Sneak alone, provided there's no terrain.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 19:59:16 No.31475477 Report

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>>31472159
>might just fall to UU

You don't play UU at all, do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:01:54 No.31475499 Report

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>>31475477
>>31472372
Reminder that /vp/ anons unironically believed Fini would be UU until it got Telepathy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:03:41 No.31475512 Report

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I predict Ubers. Spectral Thief and Close Combat is nearly flawless STAB coverage and it has good attack AND speed while still having passable bulk to boot. It's going to get suspect tested at the very minimum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:39:39 No.31475857 Report

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>>31474296
>Mediocre ability
>Technician boosted Shadow Sneak and Pursuit
Bad

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:43:43 No.31475892 Report

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>>31474296
>Mediocre ability
>Technician boosted Shadow Sneak and Pursuit
>Bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:23:15 No.31476302 Report

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>>31472126
IT COULD HAVE KLUTZ!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:27:57 No.31476355 Report

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Instant ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:32:36 No.31476399 Report

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>>31472126
This thing should just be fucking quickbanned upon release but knowing Smogon it will be allowed to run rampant in OU for at least a month

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:54:27 No.31476618 Report

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>>31472126
>Scizor-level Priority
>sanic speed
>literally perfect STAB coverage
>Technician Hidden Power in case Landorus-Therian gets any funny ideas
It's going to be Uber.
>Tapus
None of them can switch into CB Poison Jab, because it's going to have a CB set, and they don't even like LO Spectral Thief either.
The closest thing it has to a counter in OU is Mega Sableye, and the CB set can still 2HKO with Spectral Thief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:00:09 No.31476691 Report

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>>31476618
>HP meme
It learns Ice Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:01:26 No.31476714 Report

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>>31472126
ubers by far
>spectral thief
>close combat
>hp ice
name one relevant mon that can stomach 2 of these hits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:02:46 No.31476735 Report

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>>31476691
its not a meme
>-1 252 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Ice Punch vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Landorus-Therian: 218-260 (57.2 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 SpA Life Orb Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-Therian: 369-437 (96.8 - 114.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
also avoids helmet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:04:37 No.31476758 Report

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>>31476735
>-1
Why would anyone switch Landorus-Therian into Marshadow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:06:04 No.31476777 Report

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>>31476758
Emergency check after it blew something else up with Close Combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:06:13 No.31476778 Report

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>>31476758
the same reason landorus-therian would switch into lopunny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:17:17 No.31476913 Report

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>>31472126
I say medium-high OU.
It lacks the combination of power, bulk, speed, and bullshit to be top-tier OU or Ubers, but it does have nice power and speed. It's fast enough to be a great revenge killer, Technician means it can run interesting moves, allowing for variety (Or spamming Pursuit!). I can see it showing it's face in regular OU, but not on every team.

Remember, shit like Hoopa-Unbound is OU now. I don't see how this thing is significantly better than Hoopa Unbound, unless it wins the Tutor jackpot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:19:02 No.31476934 Report

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>>31472141
>>31472156
252+ Atk Gabite Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marshadow: 255-300 (100 - 117.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Choice Scarf :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:27:03 No.31477043 Report

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>>31476934
>can't even calc right
bait harder

252+ Atk Gabite Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marshadow: 202-238 (62.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Gabite: 384-452 (113.2 - 133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:28:13 No.31477064 Report

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>>31476913
>It lacks the combination of power, bulk, speed, and bullshit
>125 atk and speed
>completely UNRESISTED STAB over all 802 pokemon in the game
>said stabs are 90 and 120 bp
also
>hoopa and marshadow
>two completely different pokemon with completely different roles
>comparing apples to oranges

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:40:06 No.31477190 Report

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>>31477064
>>two completely different pokemon with completely different roles
Good point.
Better comparison. Is it as good as Tapu Lele?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:43:58 No.31477229 Report

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>>31472126

Low Ubers.
So too strong for OU but too weak for Ubers. Like Skymin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 23:26:18 No.31477760 Report

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>>31472156
>>31472171
>>31472253
>>31476934
>>31477043
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 23:27:58 No.31477781 Report

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It can outspeed and kill extreme killer Arceus
252 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Arceus: 424-502 (110.9 - 131.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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