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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:39:38 No.31472898 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31472916 >>31472937 >>31473214 >>31473237 >>31473269 >>31473310 >>31473336 >>31475633 >>31475772 >>31476160 >>31476525

>high physical attack stat
>fire type
>wrestler
>does not learn fire punch
>40 levels between the only two physical fire moves it can learn by levelup
>learns only one physical fire move by TM, and it's weaker than the one it learns at 15

what kinda missed opportunity bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:42:33 No.31472916 Report

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>>31472898
just wait until it gets in HA. Then it will be somewhat usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:43:22 No.31472922 Report

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Oh god it has to use Fire Fangs the whole game hahaha what the hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:45:49 No.31472934 Report

Quoted By: >>31472956 >>31475714

>heel wrestler
>doesn't learn Sucker Punch and Beat Up
What a shitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:46:11 No.31472937 Report

Quoted By: >>31473361

>>31472898
You forgot:
>Its first stage, Litten, is faster by 10 points

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:49:30 No.31472956 Report

Quoted By: >>31472963 >>31472969 >>31472971 >>31476487

>>31472934
It's obvious that it was designed to be a fire/fighting, and dark type was 100% a last minute decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:51:06 No.31472963 Report

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>>31472956
Honestly, the dark type fits him better than a fighting type would.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:51:29 No.31472969 Report

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>>31472956
>There are people who still believe this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:51:55 No.31472971 Report

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>>31472956
(not him) I don't really agree with you, but even then, what does he have as a Fighting type? fucking Cross Chop? He sucks even as a fighting type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:52:22 No.31472975 Report

Quoted By: >>31472992 >>31472993 >>31473038

>>31472969
Incineroar learning basically no dark type moves at all is enough evidence of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:54:21 No.31472992 Report

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>>31472975
But it gets more Dark moves than Fighting moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 15:54:23 No.31472993 Report

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>>31472975
He also learns almost no Fighting moves at all, your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:01:00 No.31473038 Report

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>>31472975
>Dark type moves: Throat Chop, signature Lariat, Bite, Fling, Brutal Swing, Snarl, Dark pulse, Crunch
>Can learn 8 out of 23 Dark type attack moves
>"basically no attacks"
Here's your (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:03:20 No.31473060 Report

Quoted By: >>31473077 >>31473078 >>31473550

Honestly move distribution in sm is my biggest problem with the game. I love a lot of these new Pokemon but none of them learn anything good and my team couldn't use practically ANY tms throughout. My Araquanid was still using Bubblebeam until halfway through the Elite Four when it finally got Liquidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:04:44 No.31473073 Report

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>>31473038
not jut that, but it learns only 6 fighting moves, less than the amount of moves it learns of dark, and one of these is a status move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:05:30 No.31473077 Report

Quoted By: >>31473371

>>31473060
u get scald tm during the water trial not the games fault you're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:05:35 No.31473078 Report

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>>31473060
I hate that you had to wait so long until you could finally evolve you guy/give them good moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:20:08 No.31473214 Report

Quoted By: >>31473238 >>31473245 >>31473281

>>31472898
Fire Punch is infinitely inferior to Flare Blitz

Fire Punch autists should neck themselves immediately desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:23:16 No.31473237 Report

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>>31472898
>using "flame charge" as a coverage move

It's a boosting move that just happens to deal fire damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:23:17 No.31473238 Report

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>>31473214
The problem is Flare Blitz has recoil, but Incineroar just sucks. Bad defensive typing and no recovery hurts defensive sets, bad speed and not particularly good coverage makes it no good offensively. It's just bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:24:10 No.31473245 Report

Quoted By: >>31476497

>>31473214
>the literal kys move but it's fire type
>superior to anything especially on a slow frail attacker like incineroar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:28:38 No.31473269 Report

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>>31472898
>not using flamethrower for the firebelt animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:30:21 No.31473281 Report

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>>31473214

I'm just saying it could have both

it'd be nice going through the main story with something decent between Fire Fang at 15 and Flare Blitz at 55

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:34:34 No.31473310 Report

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>>31472898
I found Flame Charge to be great in game for the speed boosts alone. I actually dropped Flare Blitz for it cause the recoil was too much.

I'll pick up blitz again if he gets drain punch via tutors though. Bulk Up/Drain Punch/Blitz/Lariat seems like it'll be useful in NU or whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:38:23 No.31473329 Report

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Eveyone always forgets you can use Fire Pledge for the mid-game on Torracat, who has mixed offensive NFE stats. It's always "Torracat didn't kill Totem Lurantis with Z-Fire Fang" but with Z-Fire Pledge your odds are better. Spatk doesn't even go up when Torracat evolves into Incineroar. Incineroar wound up being a great Dark type but lacked in places as a Fire type.

Shout outs to Flame Charge as well, pretty useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:39:33 No.31473336 Report

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>>31472898
>lost speed from torracat while its special attack remained the same
Why even live?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:42:15 No.31473361 Report

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>>31472937
Second stage is faster by 30 points

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 16:43:39 No.31473371 Report

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>>31473077
>had to use scald as golisopod's water STAB for almost the whole game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 17:01:21 No.31473550 Report

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>>31473060

A lot of things come too late in the main game. I love Crabrawler, but I won't be able to use Crabominable until close to the end? and I have to go to the move reminder to get its good past moves? no me gusta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 17:01:23 No.31473551 Report

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They should have given Incineroar Fire Lash since it conjures fire with its belt anyway.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:15:24 No.31475633 Report

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>>31472898
>high physical attack
>until gen 6, its strongest physical fire attack was fire fang

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:22:34 No.31475704 Report

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Let's hope for move tutor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:24:06 No.31475714 Report

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>>31472934
>it can't even get thief
>but a fucking butterfly can

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:24:29 No.31475721 Report

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Wait it really doesn't learn fire punch?

I really don't get GF sometimes. There has to be a reason for so much obvious shit being missed like this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:30:22 No.31475772 Report

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>>31472898
>high physical attack stat
>despite those muscles no stronger than 2 wolves with noodle arms physically

How does that work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 20:43:42 No.31475891 Report

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>>31475721
They did the same thing with Emboar.
>lore/dex entries say it uses flaming punches
>can't learn fire punch outside of tutors and mosr likely will never have their level movepool retconned to include it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:09:40 No.31476160 Report

Quoted By: >>31476180 >>31476230

>>31472898

dude...just learn to use your support...

light screen
reflect
sticky web/string shot
memento

incineroar;
sash/other
snarl/other
bulk up
darkest lariat
leech life

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:11:41 No.31476180 Report

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>>31476160

just give him decent EV's in def/sp.def hp and atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:16:38 No.31476230 Report

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>>31476160

this is still only example, I swept many ubers/others with incineroar because of good support...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:36:02 No.31476435 Report

Quoted By: >>31476448

>people want to use incinishit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:37:05 No.31476448 Report

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>>31476435
>people want to use most of alola's mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:37:28 No.31476452 Report

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>nigga dissing flame charge

Since you are specifically talking ingame. Flame Charge -> SD -> Clean

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:41:06 No.31476487 Report

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>>31472956
>GF creates fire/fighting starter; /vp/ complains
>GF doesn't create fire/fighting starter; /vp/ still complains

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:41:19 No.31476490 Report

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So in terms of usability it goes
Venusaur>Blastoise>Charizard
Feraligatr>Typhlosion>Meganium
Blaziken>Swampert>Sceptile
Infernape?>Empoleon?>Torterra
Serperior>Samurott>Emboar?
Greninja>Chesnaught>Delphox
but what is gen 7?
Primarina>Incineroar>Decidueye?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:42:37 No.31476497 Report

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>>31473245
>95/90/900 bulk
>frail

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:42:42 No.31476498 Report

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What's wrong with having one good STAB?
It's not like all 4 of your move slots are going to be fire type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:42:52 No.31476500 Report

Quoted By: >>31476537 >>31477298

>>31476448
If you are using inciniroar just do with it what game freak wants you to do what it.
Incinishit@ Choice band
252 hp 252 atk 4 sdef
Darkest lariat
Outrage/leech life/roar
Earthquake
Flare blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:45:34 No.31476525 Report

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>>31472898
it doesn't punch because wrestling is fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 21:46:56 No.31476537 Report

Quoted By: >>31477386

>>31476500
I guess ignore roar for fake out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:50:18 No.31477298 Report

Quoted By: >>31477450

>>31476500

you are just dumb smogon dumpshit who cannot into strategy games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 22:56:42 No.31477386 Report

Quoted By: >>31477450

>>31476537
>choice band fake out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 23:01:59 No.31477450 Report

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>>31477386
Or use life orb if you dont feel like switching i guess.
>>31477298
Well yeah sure whatever. I fucking hate smogon but i can still make a decent set verislis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2017 23:04:47 No.31477488 Report

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Speaking of witch does this thing learn stone edge? That could be better coverage than earthquake i guess.

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