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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:27:29 No.31501110 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31501178 >>31501213 >>31501432

They made Yanma, Beedrill & Masquerain useable but this guy still gets nothing.

Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:33:27 No.31501178 Report

Quoted By: >>31501778 >>31503314

>>31501110
Maybe it'll get a regular evolution in like Gen 13 when they decide to do that again.

That or they'll give it +20 HP and +20 Def and some Bug-type punching move whose power is based on the opponent's Atk stat (which can also then be boosted by Iron Fist). Also give it Defog or some shit.

-Ladypunch
-Defog
-Knock Off
-Roost

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:35:06 No.31501195 Report

Quoted By: >>31501213

They need to go through the older mons and actually give them more significant buffs. I like what they've been doing, but has anything actually become usable due to a 10 point base stat increase?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:36:28 No.31501213 Report

Quoted By: >>31501227 >>31501342

>>31501110
in what way did they make masquerain usable?

>>31501195
I don't think the Gen 6 changes helped any pokemon, but the Gen 7 changes to Dugtrio and Dodrio were fairly significant. Not enough to make Dodrio OU, but they were solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:37:47 No.31501227 Report

Quoted By: >>31501342

>>31501213
Masquerain got +40 bst (+20 spa atk +20 speed)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:47:28 No.31501342 Report

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>>31501213
>>31501227
Pelipper got a decent stat boost alongside Drizzle, didn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:50:10 No.31501383 Report

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With its stats Ledian would struggle even in LC.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:54:08 No.31501432 Report

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>>31501110
> x4 weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:58:45 No.31501492 Report

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Really could have used a mega evolution but now that's over so I guess he's fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:00:08 No.31501509 Report

Quoted By: >>31501524 >>31501561

Mega Ledian
Bug/Fighting, Huge Power

HP 55
ATK 35 > 80 ( 160 with ability)
DEF 50 > 100
SPA 55 > 25
SPF 110
SPE 85 > 120

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:00:22 No.31501515 Report

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>>31501432
>no third evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:01:04 No.31501524 Report

Quoted By: >>31501554

>>31501509
>ATK 35 > 80 ( 160 with ability)

>anon in charge of know how base stats are calculated

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:03:37 No.31501554 Report

Quoted By: >>31501592 >>31501642

>>31501524
80 x 2 = 160

I'm not saying it's base attack stat is 160, i'm just saying with the ability, in battle, it's attack. in practice, will be 160, since huge power doubles attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:04:24 No.31501561 Report

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>>31501509
Literally my moms Heracross

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:07:27 No.31501592 Report

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>>31501554
Base stat calculation does not work that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:12:00 No.31501641 Report

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Ledian Evo/Mega Ledian
65 Hp/130 Att/60 Def/55 Sp.Att/120 Sp.Def/85 Speed
Bug/Fighting
Heart of Justice
>HoJ boosts "Punch" Moves and then deals double damage against Poison, Ghost, and Dark types.

Signature Move: Finishing Punch
>Finishing Punch(Fighting)
>80 BD
>If move is used on a opponent with 25% or less HP, the moves deals double damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:12:05 No.31501642 Report

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>>31501554
Base 80 attack with a +attack nature and max EVs and IVs becomes 284. Doubling that gives you the equivalent of 209 base attack.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:25:42 No.31501778 Report

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>>31501178
>Ladypunch
Why is that such a cute move name?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:44:34 No.31503314 Report

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>>31501178
Ladypunch (95 BP, 100 Acc) [Foul Play clone]

>0 Atk Iron Fist Ledian Ladypunch vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 386-456 (105.4 - 124.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>0 Atk Iron Fist Ledian Ladypunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja-Ash: 470-554 (164.3 - 193.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>0 Atk Iron Fist Ledian Ladypunch vs. 248 HP / 92 Def Muk-Alola: 175-207 (42.3 - 50.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

Banned to Ubers. It can even OHKO Deoxys and probably even min Def / max Atk Celebi.

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