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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:03:49 No.31578920 View View Reply Original Report

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Did Mooncucks get the last laugh?

Obviously Sun is canon and I bought it for Buzzwole, Solgaleo etc, but I dunno, what if Celesteela is the best gen 7 pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:04:34 No.31578938 Report

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>>31578920
>Sun is canon
There is no canon, kys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:14:15 No.31579081 Report

Quoted By: >>31579566 >>31579919

>>31578920
Celesteela's stat don't surpass 110 points yet she is OU by the fact that she has the strongest Heavy Slam and the swcond best type combination in Steel/Flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:15:21 No.31579091 Report

Quoted By: >>31580226

Sun wins solely for Buzzwole and Solgaleo

Midnight form Lyranoc makes Moon a pretty good contender tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:19:10 No.31579152 Report

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>Sun is canon
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:21:10 No.31579176 Report

Quoted By: >>31579935

I play wit Gastrodon and he completely walls the Leech Seed + substitute + protect + heavy slam Celeteela.
They end up rage quitting after running out of Heavy Slam pp or seeing Gastrodon use recover.

My advice is to drop protect or substitute in Celesteela and use toxic instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:22:13 No.31579197 Report

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>>31578920
>Sun is Canon
Explain?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:22:18 No.31579199 Report

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>>31578920
>Sun is canon
>When Lunala exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:22:24 No.31579200 Report

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What does it matter? Sunfags can inject Celesteela and Moonfags can inject Buzzwole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:22:28 No.31579203 Report

Quoted By: >>31579381

>>31578920
Battle wise?
Celesteela>Buzzwole (most formats)
Kartana>Pheromosa (if doubles with no Lunala, as Lunala is the Kartana slayer and Pheromosa works better for attacking Lunala than it)
Lunala>Solgaleo (Lion is a metagross v2, Lunala is pretty much, if not the best gen 7 mon in battle)

Design wise I like Celesteela and Buzzwole the most, then Pheromosa and Kartana in that order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:24:00 No.31579225 Report

Quoted By: >>31579361

>>31578920
>Celesteela
>Best
This man has yet to know the joy of Lunala, Zygarde-Complete, and Tapu Lele

Lunala is clearly the best. It is a fucking monster and I love it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:24:24 No.31579231 Report

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>mooncucks
>sun in canon

The pokemon fanbase is even more autistic than I thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:26:09 No.31579260 Report

Quoted By: >>31579381

>>31578920
Celesteela and Pheromosa ended up being OU defining threats while Buzzwole and Kartana are good but nothing special.
Lunala is also much better in Ubers than Solgaleo.
Oranguru is more relevant in doubles than Passimian.
Both lycanrocs are shit but midday is technically better.
So yes, Moon ended up with the competitively better pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:33:01 No.31579361 Report

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>>31579225
This shit is why I'm bringing my Yveltal to SM now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:34:31 No.31579381 Report

Quoted By: >>31579429

>>31579260
Kartana is quite good and Buzzwole does see use though (although not nearly as much as Celesteela).
Refer to>>31579203 as Kartana is used more prominently in doubles due to Lunala not being there to destroy it. Pheromosa is better than it when Lunala exists, but many formats do not allow Lunala.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:36:49 No.31579429 Report

Quoted By: >>31579515

>>31579381
Pheromosa is better than kartana in singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:42:49 No.31579515 Report

Quoted By: >>31579583

>>31579429
Absolutely true, not arguing anything there. Kartana is dogshit in singles compared to Pheromosa, but is a late game or suicide Pokemon in doubles.

Klinklang Guy

Klinklang Guy Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:46:06 No.31579566 Report

Quoted By: >>31580026

>>31579081
What's the best combination, then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:47:11 No.31579583 Report

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>>31579515
Worded that a little weirdly, meant that Pheromosa requires more thought and is easier to kill when she can actually face retaliation in doubles so she has to either suicide attack or be brought out late game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:47:42 No.31579594 Report

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Celesteela is good, but isn't that great in a post-bank world.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:56:39 No.31579739 Report

Quoted By: >>31579800 >>31583188

>Celesteela S tier OU
>Lunala A- tier Uber

>Buzzwole B tier OU
>Solgaleo B- tier Uber

I don't know OP, what do you think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 01:59:50 No.31579800 Report

Quoted By: >>31579827 >>31579852 >>31580100

>>31579739
>Solgaleo could drop to OU any time
Pls make it happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:01:46 No.31579827 Report

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>>31579800
Solgaleo is still too strong for OU despite being trash in Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:03:18 No.31579852 Report

Quoted By: >>31579901

>>31579800
Solgaleo would fuck up OU. It's like MegaMeta but it can hold an item and heal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:06:31 No.31579901 Report

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>>31579852
What about Reshiram, Deoxys and Darkrai?

C-can OU have them now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:06:42 No.31579904 Report

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>>31578920
>Moon got "female" bug and metal plant monster
>Sun got "male" bug and metal plant monster
>Both are pretty good in a way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:07:48 No.31579919 Report

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>>31579081
Steel Flying isn't second best. The best typings are, in no particular order, Steel/Fairy, Fairy/Ghost, Steel/Ghost, Fairy/Water, and Ghost/Normal.
Steel/Flying is good, but somewhere beneath those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:08:52 No.31579935 Report

Quoted By: >>31579994

>>31579176
Why not Quagsire though? Quagsire does everything Gastrodon does, but with Unaware to better stop sweeps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:10:33 No.31579960 Report

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>>31578920
It isn't. Lele and Koko are better legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:11:59 No.31579979 Report

Quoted By: >>31580133

>>31578920
>canon
go fuck yourself but yes, sun is the better game, Celesteela is the best new pokemon.

Discussion over. Next thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:13:17 No.31579994 Report

Quoted By: >>31580161

>>31579935
you can't use quagsire in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:16:02 No.31580026 Report

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>>31579566
Fairy/Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:21:11 No.31580100 Report

Quoted By: >>31580118 >>31582875

>>31579800
No. There are shittier Ubers that haven't dropped, that would royally fuck OU. Solgaleo's Z-splash set alone would run a train on OU, it has hilarious bulk with recovery and it's ability and sig are much more relevant in OU. Sunsteel Strike ignores Unaware, among other notable abilities, while FMB ignores all manner of intimidates and random stat drops that could otherwise cut a sweep short.
Solgaleo is a fucking monstrosity in an OU environment, what has it fucked in OU are the uselessness of its unique features, it's typing which has a lot of issues in OU, and the fact that all of its roles are better performed by P-Don, who also hard-counters it and is still the most prevalent Pokemon in the tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:23:02 No.31580118 Report

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>>31580100
>what has it fucked in OU
>has a lot of issues in OU,

Replace these with Ubers, I stroked out for a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:23:51 No.31580127 Report

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>>31578920
>canon game
3rd version isn't out yet anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:24:11 No.31580133 Report

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>>31579979
>Celesteela is the best new pokemon.
>Not Lele

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:26:25 No.31580161 Report

Quoted By: >>31580175

>>31579994
did they seriously ban a NU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:27:25 No.31580175 Report

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>>31580161
nah its not that, you can only use pokemon in the aloladex for vgc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 02:33:24 No.31580226 Report

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>>31579091
The other Lycanroc form appears in the wild in Poni Canyon, you can just chain them there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 04:20:41 No.31581357 Report

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>>31578920
>pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 07:02:43 No.31582875 Report

Quoted By: >>31582884 >>31584216

>>31580100
I wonder what Deoxys would be like in Ubers.
Would Defense form be too powerful of a wall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 07:03:49 No.31582884 Report

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>>31582875
In OU*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 07:34:19 No.31583137 Report

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>>31578920
As a Sunfag, I was quite disappointed when I found that Celesteela was a Moon exclusive but then injection became avalaible and I just injected mine.

It even has my TID/SID so its as if I caught it myself which satisfies my autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 07:41:06 No.31583188 Report

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>>31579739
Nice shitpost, both Buzzwole and Celesteela are A tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:43:31 No.31584216 Report

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>>31582875
Defense Deoxys was OU in gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:46:22 No.31584224 Report

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>sun is canon
But celesteela is in moon

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:51:36 No.31584235 Report

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>>31578920
>Obviously Sun is canon
what op had meant by this?

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