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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:35:26 No.31592391 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31592462 >>31592489 >>31592531 >>31592538 >>31592542 >>31592580 >>31593477 >>31593826 >>31594017 >>31595834 >>31597856 >>31598401 >>31599547 >>31599602

What's the best Z-move for my boy?

Z-rock slide
Z-solar beam
Z-Focus blast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:37:24 No.31592421 Report

Quoted By: >>31592486

Z-box it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:40:08 No.31592462 Report

Quoted By: >>31592486

>>31592391
Z-nothing.
Put specs on it and spam eruption

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:42:26 No.31592486 Report

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>>31592421
You're a funny guy

>>31592462
Not what my question was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:42:56 No.31592489 Report

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>>31592391
Z focus blast would have the advantage of bypassing the shit accuracy of the base move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:45:07 No.31592507 Report

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Grass. Let's you punish water, ground and rock types that would switch in. Solar Beam is useless otherwise unless you run a sun team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:45:59 No.31592516 Report

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Is Z-Burn Up something you've considered?

Otherwise, Bloom Doom is good for coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:46:47 No.31592531 Report

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>>31592391
I've used z-burn up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:47:31 No.31592538 Report

Quoted By: >>31592596

>>31592391
Trash, this garbage set isn't competitive, so why bother asking... Specs/Scarf are its only acceptable items

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:47:39 No.31592542 Report

Quoted By: >>31592552 >>31592561

>>31592391
Z-Shut the fuck up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:47:54 No.31592544 Report

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I'm not sure if I have access to burn up. This mon was bred and raised in oras than transfered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:48:36 No.31592552 Report

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>>31592542
yea well i z-giga impacted your mother and pulverized her pancake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:49:04 No.31592561 Report

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>>31592542
Tough guy huh? Kiss my ass faggot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:50:38 No.31592580 Report

Quoted By: >>31592620

>>31592391
>Rock Slide
>Blast Burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:52:11 No.31592596 Report

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>>31592538
What's wrong with your guys reading comprehension? Did I ask for another set? Did I ask for specs? Re-read the fucking op.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:54:10 No.31592620 Report

Quoted By: >>31592685

>>31592580
Charizard/talon flame.

Better accuracy than fire blast and higher bp when eruption is low.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:58:24 No.31592685 Report

Quoted By: >>31592696 >>31592747

>>31592620
>Charizard/talon flame
First of all: Talonflame is dead. Second: Pokemon like these are why you have other teammates. Typhlosion isn't meant to be able to deal with everything. What nature are you even running, Naive? You can't be serious with a mixed Typhlosion set.

>Better accuracy than fire blast and higher bp when eruption is low
Using Blast Burn means that you fucking die during the next turn when you have to recharge. In the worst case your opponent brings in something like M-Salamence after you get a KO with Blast Burn, then gets a free Dragon Dance and sweeps your team. Ditch this awful set immediately. There's a reason why Hyper Beam and its variations are never used in serious competitive battles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 00:59:28 No.31592696 Report

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>>31592685
>You can't be serious with a mixed Typhlosion set
Pun unintended

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 01:03:30 No.31592747 Report

Quoted By: >>31592951 >>31595704

>>31592685
Yes it's naive, and with minimal attack investment rockslide can OHKO mega zard y which otherwise completely walls this.

Why does literally every mon have to be the exact same with you guys? As if any thought or creativity is frowned on?

Well I chose blast burn because this typhlosion is meant to nuke. Blaze boosted blast burn will usually get the ohko meaning you can at least trade 2 for 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 01:22:00 No.31592951 Report

Quoted By: >>31592989

>>31592747
Or you could just use Flamethrower or Fire Blast. But if you want to have your nukes then all glory for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 01:25:22 No.31592989 Report

Quoted By: >>31595704

>>31592951
Flamethrower is weak in comparison,
Fire blast is weaker and has less accuracy.

Those moves would work better on a specs set which i've already specified multiple times this isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:02:40 No.31593469 Report

Quoted By: >>31593967

i like how you think OP, i would go for bloom doom if you ask me, and please bottle cap ya boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:03:47 No.31593477 Report

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>>31592391
Z-Splash. Duh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:29:43 No.31593826 Report

Quoted By: >>31593967

>>31592391
Well first and foremost you should build the Typhlosion from scratch. Its moves are HORRIBLE. Two fire moves, solar beam and rock slide? Are you kidding me? Either go all physical or all special. Typhlosion doesn't have the stats to run mixed. Second, get rid of blast burn. The power doesn't justify losing a turn. Replace it with fire blast, heat wave or at the very least flamethrower. Third, get rid of solar beam unless you're running a sun team or plan on slapping a power herb on it.

Seriously, your Typhlosion setup is straight garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:37:07 No.31593960 Report

Quoted By: >>31594152

This set is bad. Not even grassium z solar beam or fightinium z focus blast could save it. Please ditch blast burn and replace it with fire blast, and replace rock slide with earthquake or focus blast. I know why you're running rock slide, but zard y isn't omnipresent, so it'll be a wasted moveslot most of the time. I get that you want to be a special snowflake, but the standard sets are standard because they work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:37:40 No.31593967 Report

Quoted By: >>31594047 >>31597818

>>31593469
I did he finally has his perfect sats.

>>31593826
You know it's funny how many people that have posted in the thread clearly missed the point. When I asked and i'll repeat so you can understand. WHAT Z-MOVE SHOULD I USE.

>2 fire moves.
Right, and most use eruption and not her fire move when eruption is low?

>solar beam

Which is why it has grasium z

>rockslide

Which is why I made the thread, continental Crush 1HKO'S mega zard y and fucks up any other fire types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:40:22 No.31594017 Report

Quoted By: >>31594080

>>31592391
Furaffinity - 1 along with Z-Arcanine is what I use. It goes pretty well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:42:15 No.31594047 Report

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>>31593967
Another fire move* spell check is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:44:22 No.31594080 Report

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>>31594017
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 02:48:57 No.31594152 Report

Quoted By: >>31594983

>>31593960
>you are using something different so it's bad!

I'm sorry if you like to use copy paste teams without any thought or creativity but I like to mix it up a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:44:34 No.31594983 Report

Quoted By: >>31595310

>>31594152
honestly I don't get these people, I run whatever I feel like will work best from my experience after looking at what stats and nature I got. then again I just like to use my shinies to their best ability so I don't try to be the most competitive. copy-paste shit is boring though I agree.
anyone think delphox can compete with typhlo as a special attacker? I'm split but I'm gonna use one of em.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:07:59 No.31595310 Report

Quoted By: >>31595586

>>31594983
So far this typhlosion has been doing good online and is actually sideways fucking the battle tree. Even got a ko on charizard with rockslide kek.

As for your question, they both can preform that roll but it all depends on your set/strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:27:11 No.31595586 Report

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>>31595310
My typhlosion is pretty alright too, I made a guy forfeit while trying to set up mimikyu and just do the normal stuff. I have extrasensory and burn up along with flamethrower. I've used life orb and Z-Burn up, I think the fire type Z move helps more though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:34:14 No.31595704 Report

Quoted By: >>31595786

>>31592747
>>31592989

Blaze is an incredible niche ability, it's way too situational to rely on to do anything, much less activate.

If you were using Focus Sash, then sure I could see you going for a an Eruption > Blast Burn 1-2 punch for a 2 for 1 trade, but you don't have a Focus Sash, so how the fuck is offensive Typhlosion going to live a hit that hits hard enough to take it below 1/3rd hp but not hard enough to one-shot it?

You're banking on some seriously inconsistent stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:39:06 No.31595786 Report

Quoted By: >>31595846

>>31595704
If I was using a focus sash this thread would be redundant.

Holy shit the amount of incompetence here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:42:11 No.31595832 Report

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>makes a thread asking about z-moves.

>gets over run with retards spewing le smogon sets and not actually answering the actual question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:42:21 No.31595834 Report

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>>31592391
Z-Flim Flame and Z-Heat Haze are probably your best bets. I wouldn't waste a Z-Move on it though. I'd use a Z-Crystal on something like Slickspeare or Stingulor but it's no foreskin off my dick either way. More power to you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:42:54 No.31595846 Report

Quoted By: >>31595879 >>31595888 >>31595983

>>31595786
The only incompetent person here is you. Instead of using this shit mon the best it could be used, you are running a gimmick set and wasting a team slot. I love matching up against "original" players like you. Easy laddering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:46:28 No.31595879 Report

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>>31595846
Oh yeah, let's all use the same thing lol!

No, fuck off with your shitty stale meta. This set has potential and it's been evident by the results i've seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:47:15 No.31595888 Report

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>>31595846
this guy can fuck on up the ladder for all I care. enjoy your beloved aegislash ferrothorn garchomp team pal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:56:13 No.31595983 Report

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>>31595846
I also have a offensive starmie with power gem and psyshock stay triggered faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 09:06:45 No.31597818 Report

Quoted By: >>31598238

>>31593967
Well the other fire move shouldn't be fucking blast burn at least. Run flamethrower or fire blast.

But fine. I'll concede and give you what you asked for, and my answer is this: don't run an offensive z-move, run a status z-move in z-sunny day. Boosts your speed so it can help you sweep and lets you use that solar beam immediately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 09:17:11 No.31597856 Report

Quoted By: >>31598238

>>31592391
none of those
offensive Z-moves are terrible on most things and something as bad as typhlosion certainly won't benefit from one

use your z-move on sunny day to help the little bugger out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 10:37:39 No.31598238 Report

Quoted By: >>31598265

>>31597856
>>31597818
I'll give this a shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 10:44:06 No.31598265 Report

Quoted By: >>31598282 >>31598303

>>31598238
almost every semicompetent team will wipe the floor with your shitlysion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 10:49:10 No.31598282 Report

Quoted By: >>31598315

>>31598265
OK where's your proof?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 10:54:10 No.31598303 Report

Quoted By: >>31598315 >>31598345

>>31598265
This thing singlehandedly got a 40+win streak at the battle tree, and has taken on shit like garchomp, chrizard y, peliper, and the tapus online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 10:57:41 No.31598315 Report

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>>31598282
where's your proof for winning?
>>31598303
this may come as a surprise to you, but the battle tree isn't that hard. the a.i. is too shitty for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 11:03:47 No.31598345 Report

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If you really want to capitalize on blaze, I'd run Substitute. Helps you set your HP where you want it while being overall a solid move that helps with predictions.

>>31598303
Nice to hear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 11:14:00 No.31598401 Report

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>>31592391
Z solarbeam blow away those bulky water types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:44:17 No.31599547 Report

Quoted By: >>31599586

>>31592391
Don't run an offensive z-move. Offensive z-moves are niche at best and a waste at worst. Like if the opponent predicts you correctly, they could send in a flying pokemon against your Garchomps tectonic rage and you would have completely wasted your turn and will be fighting the rest of the battle without an item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:47:56 No.31599586 Report

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>>31599547
Offensive z-moves aren't that bad. Gives landorus T actual flying coverage along with gyrados. I've seen bloom doom heatrans running around too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:49:29 No.31599602 Report

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>>31592391
Bloom Doom, by far. Grass has great neutral coverage with Fire, and a 200 BP move beats your counters handily with Ty's SPA.

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