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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:25:15 No.31594711 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31594731 >>31594854 >>31594873 >>31594944 >>31599104

Was the confusion nerf a mistake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:27:02 No.31594731 Report

Quoted By: >>31599104

>>31594711
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:36:24 No.31594854 Report

Quoted By: >>31594944 >>31599104 >>31599118

>>31594711
Yes.
But para and burn nerfs were fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:37:36 No.31594873 Report

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>>31594711
no and anyone who says otherwise is an autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:41:50 No.31594944 Report

Quoted By: >>31595028

>>31594711
>>31594854
Explain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:44:43 No.31594987 Report

Quoted By: >>31594999 >>31599037

yes, anything that reduces the amount that rng determines the outcome of a match is a good thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:45:43 No.31594999 Report

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>>31594987

meant to say no lol(laugh out loud)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 03:47:39 No.31595028 Report

Quoted By: >>31595286

>>31594944
Same. I know about the paralysis nerf, but how were confusion and burn nerfed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:06:21 No.31595286 Report

Quoted By: >>31596118 >>31599100

>>31595028
Chance to damage yourself when confused is 33% now, down from 50%. Burn does less damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 04:35:00 No.31595719 Report

Quoted By: >>31599037

Swagger is pretty useless now along with most confusing status moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 05:11:02 No.31596118 Report

Quoted By: >>31596456

>>31595286
Fine during main gameplay, but should still be 50% online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 05:21:08 No.31596234 Report

Quoted By: >>31596260 >>31599095

ITT: "yes" shitters who need a coinflip to bail them out of their shitty plays, actually probably multiple flips in a row since /vp/ is immensely bad at Pokemon so by the time they have to turn the game into multiple 50-50s they're wayyy behind in trading

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 05:24:24 No.31596260 Report

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>>31596234
imagine being this mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 05:45:05 No.31596456 Report

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>>31596118
>but should still be 50% online.
t. shitter that can't play and relies on dice rolls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 13:19:09 No.31599037 Report

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>>31595719
No it's not.
Tapu Fini+Swagger=free fast Swords Dance. And of course Foul Play still works.

But running paraflinch strats are basically not as good as running OHKO strats anymore.

>>31594987
The RNG isn't a problem. It's only a problem when you only play a few games at a time. Law of Large Numbers dictates you'll have a fair result. This is why League play is superior to Swiss for Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 13:30:33 No.31599095 Report

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>>31596234

ahahaha you wouldn't enjoy a second of Duel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 13:32:10 No.31599100 Report

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>>31595286
when/where was the confusion thing discovered?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 13:32:37 No.31599104 Report

Quoted By: >>31599250 >>31599461

>>31594711
>>31594731
>>31594854

Everyone in this thread, who does not like the confusion nerf is a wolfpack fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 13:35:04 No.31599118 Report

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>>31594854
>-50% speed now
>-10% acc on thunderwave

Is there a flinch rate decrease too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 13:59:16 No.31599250 Report

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>>31599104
wtf is wolfpack
>>31599118
yes, same as confusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:08:03 No.31599315 Report

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No, swagger was too good and prankster+swagger+thunderwave pretty much ment whatever got hit with that combo was useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:11:08 No.31599331 Report

Quoted By: >>31599373

Was the confusion nerf ever even confirmed? I'm pretty sure it's still 50% on Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:18:47 No.31599373 Report

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>>31599331
It was confirmed months ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:30:59 No.31599455 Report

Quoted By: >>31599501 >>31599526

>>31599373
source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:31:51 No.31599461 Report

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>>31599104
When did verlis say shit about confusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:36:52 No.31599492 Report

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I ran a bulky Lopunny with Fake Out, Drain Punch, Encore and Teeter Dance in VGC 2015.

The plan was to click Fake Out and Belly Drum with Azumarill turn 1 and turn 2, I protect and Teeter Dance. Now my opponents had to worry about a +6 Aqua jet one-hitting everything, while their entire team was confused.

With this nerf, Lopunny will never ever see VGC ever again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:38:41 No.31599501 Report

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>>31599455
datamine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:41:53 No.31599526 Report

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>>31599455
the actual fucking game you idiot.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 14:49:08 No.31599598 Report

Quoted By: >>31599845 >>31600099 >>31600118 >>31601029

Filthy casual here. Started with Yellow and only played the first 3 gens and their remakes. and now SunMoon is the first game I'm actually putting any effort in after the Elite4

What's wrong with Freeze?

on Battle Tree, everytime i freeze someone they thaw out in the exact same turn they are frozen. but if they freeze me, it never wears off.
Is it the same for every other battle mode etc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 15:14:21 No.31599845 Report

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>>31599598
>Battle Tree

Let me put it this way. If Pokemon was a dice-based RPG, Battle Tree would give your opponents +10 and you -5 on every roll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 15:45:15 No.31600099 Report

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>>31599598
The AI cheats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 15:46:29 No.31600111 Report

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The only mistake was that it took seven generations and 20 years to arrive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 15:47:36 No.31600118 Report

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>>31599598
The battle tree will try to shift RNG in it's favor as much as it can.

Meaning that Battle Tree forces you to be safe and take no risks. (Run Low Kick instead of High Jump Kick and Flamethrower over Heat Wave).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2017 17:36:52 No.31601029 Report

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>>31599598
Using a fire move causes the frozen pokemon to be thawed and can attack on the same turn
other than that its just Tree having +20 on the dice roll

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