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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 00:12:30 No.31617876 View View Reply Original Report

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Red boxed Pokemon were originally going to be Gen 1 Pokemon, but they were saved for later.

How much better would Gen 1 have been if it had included these pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 00:13:51 No.31617893 Report

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>>31617876
>no togepi
You didn't even try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 00:15:29 No.31617910 Report

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>>31617876
Heracrossfags would be even more annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 00:17:07 No.31617931 Report

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>>31617910
Fagapooss couldn't compete with ScythGOD

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 00:17:38 No.31617940 Report

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>>31617931
>ScythGOD
are you from ATRL or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 00:19:10 No.31617964 Report

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>>31617940
>celebrity gossip forum
Nah, /tv/ fulfills my needs already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 00:20:32 No.31617977 Report

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>>31617940
there was a thread yesterday about someone saying scythgod was superior in every way to shitzor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:07:05 No.31618519 Report

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>>31617876
That's only placeholders for Johto Guard glitch, Togepi and Marill and maybe Miltank were really meant to be part of the original 190, why Miltank because Tauros doesn't make sense without a Cow based Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:08:28 No.31618538 Report

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>>31617876
The Horsea line would be less puzzling if that was the case. "Dragon" pokemon that aren't Dragon typed? There was no constancy until Kingdra came.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:11:21 No.31618559 Report

Quoted By: >>31618707

>mono rock pseudo
garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:14:02 No.31618582 Report

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I recall a Smogon thread were Morimoto was asked about those scrapped gen 1 mons and he said Ho-oH wasn't one of them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:15:07 No.31618607 Report

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Genwunners who hate Heracross are just retarded. Nothing has ever felt like it was one of the first ever designed pokemon than Heracross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:18:26 No.31618661 Report

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If they WERE in gen 1, that means that literally any mon could be stupidly considered as part of the "original" by very stubborn genwunners, further proving the fact that it doesn't even matter what generation a Pokemon is from

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:21:41 No.31618707 Report

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>>31618559
If Dark didn't exist Tyranitar almost certainly would've just been Rock/Ground like its prevos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:25:36 No.31618765 Report

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>>31617876
>Maril/PikaBlu isn't red

this list is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:25:52 No.31618774 Report

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>>31617876
I remember reading at the time that there were memory concerns with the GB at the time so they had to limit the amount of pokemon.

>>31618607
who hates herobug? He and scizor tie for most loved bug in favourite threads on /vg/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:27:55 No.31618803 Report

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>>31618774
The "there's only 151 pokemon"-fags. They know exactly who they are.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:33:28 No.31618868 Report

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>>31618607
>Nothing has ever felt like it was one of the first ever designed pokemon than Heracross.
but it's not you fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:38:48 No.31618947 Report

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Then Gen 1 would have pretty much all of my most favorite designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:42:15 No.31618990 Report

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>>31617876
Wait, so almost all of Johto's good looking Pokemon were originally Kanto's? Remove Crobat, Sudowodo, Steelix and Slowking, and Gen 2 would've had nothing good.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:48:15 No.31619074 Report

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>>31618990
>Yanma
>Wooper line
>Spinarak line
>Ledian
>Murkrow
>Mareep line
>Gligar
>Totodile Line
>Cyndaquil Line
>Bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:49:20 No.31619086 Report

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>>31619074
Also Xatu before 3d fucked it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:50:22 No.31619101 Report

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>>31619074
Mareep, I'll give you that. The rest are bland as fuck. Boring at best, neither realistic or good looking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:52:30 No.31619136 Report

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>>31617876
>better
You realize they were cut for a reason, right? Pokemon like Muk and Seel were considered better than them, and for good cause. With the exception of the legends they're all blobby messes that don't fit in with gen 1's aesthetic at all, and the legends with the exception of Ho-Oh are just rehashes of the Kanto legends.

The Johto dex sucks dick, man.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:52:54 No.31619141 Report

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>>31619074
>Implying Tanma, Murkrow and Gengar were any good before their evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 01:55:23 No.31619180 Report

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>the good baby mons (magby, elekid, smoochum, tyrogue) were originally gen 1
>the shitty ones (igglybuff, cleffa, pichu) are gen 2

really makes me think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 02:12:50 No.31619405 Report

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>>31617876
>Lugia
Calling bullshit on that one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 03:41:54 No.31620513 Report

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All those pokemon would have sucked outside of the legends and pseudos, because they sucked in Gen 2, with the exception of Usaring, Porygon 2 and MAYBE Donphan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 03:44:03 No.31620539 Report

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>>31619074
>Typhlosion
>good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 03:48:20 No.31620592 Report

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>>31617876
This fucking meme again.
Those are just the Gen II Pokemon that Missingno turns into when traded to GSC. When Gamefreak was adding new Pokemon to the game in in Gen II, they filled all the open slots after Victreebel (the last Pokemon programmed in Gen I) with Chikorita through Qwilfish. They ran out of room, so Scizor through Ho-oh were stuck in the empty slots between old Pokemon, which is what Missingno were in RBY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 04:55:06 No.31621249 Report

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>>31620592
Not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious. If this is true, why isn't Celebi included in those missing slots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 05:03:45 No.31621325 Report

Quoted By: >>31623243

>Ho-oh
But wasn't it showing up in the first episode of the anime a teaser for the idea that there were more Pokemon that were yet to be discovered?

Plus that would have meant that there would be two phoenixes in Gen 1. That's weird. There's no reason that should be weird, but it's weird, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 08:46:17 No.31623157 Report

Quoted By: >>31624709

I think the better question is.
What would gen 2 been like if they were included.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 08:49:00 No.31623172 Report

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The scrapped Gen 1 Pokemon are exactly what it says on the tin: scrapped

They were shit, so they weren't used in Gen 1, and weren't used down the line

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 09:07:28 No.31623243 Report

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>>31621325
After the first episode originally aired, they announced that "Pokemon 2" was in development after the credits rolled.

Ho-oh was suppose to be THE Ultimate Pokemon before they decided to cull the number of Pokemon down to 150; Motres would have been a fire-bird, while Ho-oh would have been a real phoenix.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 13:42:53 No.31624570 Report

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>>31621249
he's not wrong. It's a fact.
There were originally 190 pokemon planned for the first gen I but 39 were scrapped due to memory limitation.
Some of them might got into the games in gen II or in later games, or maybe not at all.
I, personally, believe mons like Kingdra, Lugia, Tyranitar line, Magby and Elekid were part of these 39 but, as I've said, some of them might not been part of gen II like Munna (the girl mentioned a pink floral patterned mon) and Tortuga (the beta art) or some might got scrapped all entirely

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 13:46:17 No.31624602 Report

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You're now aware that if they were in Gen 1 in the first place, some of them would probably have gotten Alola forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 14:00:21 No.31624706 Report

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>>31624570

aaaaaaah... this art...back when pokemon were badass and not completely for little retarded japanese kids... I miss that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 14:01:02 No.31624709 Report

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>>31623157
There were likely more Pokemon designed to meet the 100 quota. Maybe one or two Hoenn Pokemon.

>>31624570
I'm reminded of the fact that Shellos and Gastrodon were originally meant to be in RSE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 14:13:57 No.31624781 Report

Quoted By: >>31625081

>>31617876
Somehow I don't buy this
I mean why would they plan for a steel-coated scyther but not a steel-coated onyx?
Or how about multiple dark/steel types in general?
Or Porygon 2, whose entire gag was mirroring graphical evolution in 3D games
Or Hitmontop, who sticks out like a sore thumb next to chan and lee
Or the fact that Togepi/Snubbul aren't one of the pokes highlighted in red despite both showing up before gen 2 started

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 14:54:16 No.31625036 Report

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>>31618661
Lots of genwunners, most of them probably, stop at gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 14:59:27 No.31625081 Report

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>>31624781
>Somehow I don't buy this
>I mean why would they plan for a steel-coated scyther but not a steel-coated onyx?
What about onix itself implies.it HAS to have a steel evolution?
>Or how about multiple dark/steel types in general?
Either steel was gonna be there first(magnemite) or they werent gonna be steel/dark in the first place(possoby magnemite again). Gen 2 also introduced a"fairy" pokemon long before the type.
>Or Hitmontop, who sticks out like a sore thumb next to chan and lee
That's subjective at best
>Or the fact that Togepi/Snubbul aren't one of the pokes highlighted in red despite both showing up before gen 2 started
That has nothing to do with this.

Not saying op is right, but those arent reason not to believe it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Feb 2017 15:30:38 No.31625308 Report

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>>31617876
>2/3 of my gen 2 favs are now from gen 1

gen 1 now has 5 of my favorites, thats a pretty good gen

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