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>>31637041
>>31637049
Incineroar is practically Fire/Fighting in design and theme. Making it Fire/Dark does not justify making it Fire/Fighting in essence.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:35:58 No.31637058 Report

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That picture looks like it's missing a piece of its arm and a piec of its bone is sticking out.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:37:42 No.31637069 Report

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>>31637057
In any case, it's still fire dark. Not fire fighting no matter what your shitty opinion is.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:38:50 No.31637072 Report

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>>31637057
(you)

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:42:52 No.31637089 Report

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>>31637057
What is "in essence" is not the point. Incineroar is still Fire/Dark. Ergo, there are only three Fire/Fighting starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:44:36 No.31637095 Report

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>>31637089
In that case, I guess we can't complain if the next fire starter is an anthropomorphic bull with a boxing theme, but we can't call it out on being a fire/fighting because it's fire/steel based on some nonsensical "Iron Fist" theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:47:28 No.31637115 Report

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>>31637095
Now you're getting it.

Also, people will complain anyway, just a bit differently than they might if the hypothetical bull is Fire/Fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:52:20 No.31637146 Report

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>>31637115
Yeah, it seems like the complaining about the fire starters has gone from "it's another fire/fighting" to "it's another biped/anthropomorph".

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:55:44 No.31637160 Report

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>>31637146
Both are valid complaints, though. We haven't had a quadruped since gen 2.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 13:58:01 No.31637171 Report

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>>31637160
True. And even then it's mostly bipedal.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:04:18 No.31637197 Report

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In GF's mind anything that is fighting type can become Dark type simply by fighting dirty.

This reminds me, sand attack should be dark type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:18:03 No.31637275 Report

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>>31637057
It doesn't matter what you think. The fact of the matter is is that Incineroar is fire/dark, not fire/fighting. And no amount of "essence" or denial is going to change that.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:28:50 No.31637335 Report

Quoted By: >>31637800 >>31639321 >>31639340

>four fire/fighting is bad because reasons
>four pure water is great because ?????
>four pure grass is great because ?????

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:41:28 No.31637402 Report

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>>31637146
>>31637160
>>31637171
Charizard is almost never depicted on all fours either, so technically we've pretty much never had a biped, final form, fire-starter.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:43:26 No.31637408 Report

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>>31637402
I think you mean quadruped

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:43:47 No.31637410 Report

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Putting aside the slightly confused OP, if GameFreak were to make another Fire/Fighting, what fighting style would you like it to have?

Note that I'm not talking about stats, but rather how the lore and the design shows it; is it fighting with a makeshift weapon? Judo? Boxing?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:46:57 No.31637427 Report

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>>31637095
>Another Fire/Steel
Fuck yeah

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:47:57 No.31637433 Report

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>>31637410
Only acceptable one would be a ki energy fighting style or something similar.

A Fire/Fighting that can only attack specially at the very least would play differently than any the last three.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:48:08 No.31637435 Report

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>>31637410
I'd like to see spear combat if it has to happen.

Make it a scorpion that uses its stinger as a makeshift spear. Not sure how the theme would be, some kind of a chinese warrior/general? It could invoke the image of a very regal warrior riding a red horse.

Lu Bu, but he's a scorpion. I think that could be quite marketable.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:49:04 No.31637442 Report

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>>31637057
>wrestling
>fighting
Wrestling's fake anon, hence the Dark typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:49:47 No.31637447 Report

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>>31637410
Yare yare daze...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 14:59:44 No.31637499 Report

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>>31637410
>lizard designed after a japanese infantry warrior
>high base speed and offensive stats, but fragile
>like cubone/farfetch'd he has a weapon, a flame-tipped spear that burns constantly
>signature move is blazing javelin, a non-contact attack that deals both physical fighting type damage and special fire damage

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 15:43:01 No.31637756 Report

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>>31637442
This.

Wrestling = acting = lying = bad = dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 15:44:33 No.31637767 Report

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>>31637499
I followed you up until the dual-type damage thing. However, an either-or attack might work (IE Genesect)

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 15:45:03 No.31637774 Report

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>>31637057
>Being this autistic

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 15:48:24 No.31637800 Report

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>>31637335
>four pure grass
nigger what

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 15:51:40 No.31637815 Report

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>>31637024
>draw a fire/fighting
>call it fire/dark

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 16:21:01 No.31638033 Report

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>>31637410
A special oriented Fire/Fighting

Flamethrower, Aura Sphere, Calm Mind, and the signature Special Fire move that deals physical damage and can cause either confusion or burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 16:22:25 No.31638041 Report

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>>31637057
calm down hazeldex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 16:29:43 No.31638103 Report

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>>31637410
A special attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 16:30:09 No.31638110 Report

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>>31637410
Jeet kune do or Wing Chun. It just feels right for something that's fire/fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 16:31:43 No.31638121 Report

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>>31638033
>Aura Sphere
Give it Lava Plume, too, just so it can be the poster boy for poorly-distributed moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 16:38:24 No.31638172 Report

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>>31637057

>Heel Pokemon
>Fighting

No.

It LOOKS like a Fighting type due to being based on a wrestler, but in concept, it's the complete opposite of a Fighting type. It's a dirty, savage fighter, which is the whole schtick of the Dark type. The complete opposite of the Fighting type, who are fair and honorable fighters.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 16:39:44 No.31638181 Report

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Wrestling is fake anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:00:10 No.31638845 Report

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Still waiting for fire/fairy

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:18:02 No.31639025 Report

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>>31637057
Not sure if bait or just pure unadulterated autism

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:25:11 No.31639094 Report

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>>31637275
>It doesn't matter what you think.
Reminded me of this.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:27:11 No.31639111 Report

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>>31638845
I'm still mad about Tapu Bulu.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:40:35 No.31639219 Report

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>>31639111
>Fire/Fairy with Bulu's stats and Drought
It would've been devastating.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:45:08 No.31639259 Report

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>>31639111
Tapu Bulu is made of wood though. People assumed it was part fire because we thought all the Tapu's shared Oricorio's type's.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:51:39 No.31639321 Report

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>>31637335

Gen 1: Water and Grass/Poison
Gen 2: Water and Grass
Gen 3: Water/Ground and Grass
Gen 4: Water/Steel and Grass/Ground
Gen 5: Water and Grass
Gen 6: Water/Dark and Grass/Fighting

3 cases of pure water and 2 cases of pure grass.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:52:41 No.31639331 Report

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>>31639321

* 3 cases of pure grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:53:40 No.31639337 Report

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>>31637057
You also think Luxray is Electric/Dark, don't you?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:53:49 No.31639340 Report

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>>31637335
Pure fire would be better than a fire/fighting

As an additional bonus make it an actual tiger instead of a human/tiger hybrid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:55:15 No.31639358 Report

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>>31637057
Essence or not, that doesn't change the fact that it's Fire/Dark. It also only learns a single fighting type attack by level up.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 18:56:28 No.31639373 Report

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>>31639259
>Spooky Terrain Ghost/Fairy Tapu "Fini"
>Spooky Terrain powers up Ghost-type moves by 50% and HP recovery is taken as damage instead for grounded Pokemon though Life Orb and Ghost Curse's self-inflicted damage is inverted to restore the user's HP by the amount it would've damaged
How banned is it? Remember that Moonblast + Shadow Ball already hits everything bar, like, Pyroar for neutral damage or better.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 19:24:25 No.31639627 Report

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>>31639373
IDK about Ghost Fini(sounds offensively busted but it's stats don't seem threatening for an offensive mon), but like your idea of Spooky Terrain. SubHex Gengar with/LO would be pretty damn threatening when terrain is active. Can you use Curse twice on a Ghost? Because Coffagrigus might rise in usage if it got an auto Spooky Terrain ability.

A good recovery move would be enough for regular Tapu Fini to be suspected honestly. Its only flaw is that it's a bad Knock Off absorber as it would hate to loose it's Leftovers due to no recovery.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 20:31:21 No.31640274 Report

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>>31637057
This is another case of "Proud of its Power"
Add me in the screencap

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Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 21:58:15 No.31641106 Report

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>>31639094
That's what I was going for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Feb 2017 22:06:30 No.31641190 Report

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When you think about it, all Pokemon are Fighting types.

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